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I'm not sure Carsley would be that bad, he seems like he's got a philosophy and likes to play front-footed football. High-press and possession dominant.

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Just now, K789 said:

Carsley is linekars pick too. I'd wouldn't be too disgruntled with him

I like Gary, but anything he says about Leicester we should do the opposite.

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2 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I'm not sure Carsley would be that bad, he seems like he's got a philosophy and likes to play front-footed football. High-press and possession dominant.

He's not going to inspire the players.

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20 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Still no news then...?

Unlikely to happen in two days. It’s a critical position for the club and a significant investment, so even if they had a shortlist and even if they sounded out one or two in advance, you would think they’d invite those people to present their vision for the club. They probably deliberate on that, a few more rounds of discussion and then negotiate terms. With the best will in the world, a deal like that is not done in two days with all the moving parts in play. Media silence is probably a good sign - I would expect clubs that our scrabbling around would be advertising the post and using journalists to drum up interest. I’d expect we are talking to more than one candidate and eyeing something quick but feels unlikely that it would be done and dusted before the weekend. 

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Really don't understand the Carsley hate either, he likes to play a free flowing attacking based football focusing on their strengths and combinations. He's very well connected with youth players and is very highly respected as a coach with the majority of the England players stating how refreshing its been to play under him. Other than the Greece game where he tried something that all England fans wanted, which didn't work and quickly corrected it.


Personally I think Carsley has a bright future if he can get an international side playing good attacking football on limited time then I think he has a real possibility to be successful at club level.

 

For reference his style of play and philosophy of he wants his teams to play is completely different to cooper's style. Do your research on Carsley's style of play and you'll realise very quickly he's no way near as bad as some are making out.

The Cooper comparisons are literally the England youth relation which for context Cooper was at even lower of an age group

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1 minute ago, SecretPro said:

He's not going to inspire the players.

I'm not going to write him off in that regard but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't, either. I'd prefer Ruud, too. 

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He actively told the world that he’s not a top coach and didn’t deserve the England job. Why is that better than Pooper?

 

What the **** is going on? 

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No chance Carsley takes it. 

He doesn't like & struggles with media attention. This was all very clear during his brief stint with England recently.

No way would he want the scrutiny on a weekly basis. 

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4 minutes ago, Sooper Steve's shin said:

Unlikely to happen in two days. It’s a critical position for the club and a significant investment, so even if they had a shortlist and even if they sounded out one or two in advance, you would think they’d invite those people to present their vision for the club. They probably deliberate on that, a few more rounds of discussion and then negotiate terms. With the best will in the world, a deal like that is not done in two days with all the moving parts in play. Media silence is probably a good sign - I would expect clubs that our scrabbling around would be advertising the post and using journalists to drum up interest. I’d expect we are talking to more than one candidate and eyeing something quick but feels unlikely that it would be done and dusted before the weekend. 

Over the past 4 years, what has the club done at board level to suggest this level of due diligence is carried out? lol

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3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

So let's get this straight. Because Steve Cooper was associated with the England youth set up and was crap for us, we can safely assume that Lee Carsley, who has also worked in the England youth set up, must have exactly the same attributes/philosophy/coaching style etc as Cooper and should therefore be completely written off?

Where his experience of managing at club level (except as a caretaker boss), let alone any premier league experience (which seems to be what everybody wants)?

 

Would he inspire the players (if they weren't inspired by cooper)? And as for attracting players in the transfer window (that have never heard of him)?


Fine saying he got a tune ouf of England - but the quality of player he had at his disposal is a little different.

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4 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

Really don't understand the Carsley hate either, he likes to play a free flowing attacking based football focusing on their strengths and combinations. He's very well connected with youth players and is very highly respected as a coach with the majority of the England players.

My word, you could absolutely say all of that with regards to Cooper. In fact, we definitely heard of all those things at some point. He's crap, made himself look a right plum with the media (got no training whatsoever) and won't inspire our crop of players. 

 

It's that meme of the fat bloke flipping the other fat bloke over him. This is Deja Vu.

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The Chinese whispers on this forum lol. Someone says "I wonder if it's Carsley" then you get 3/4 people saying "Oh I hope it's not Carsley" then you get 6/7 saying "Oh ****ing hell it's Carsley".

 

Ruud has been backed in to 1/6 while you can still get 25s for Lee Carsley.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SecretPro said:

Where his experience of managing at club level (except as a caretaker boss), let alone any premier league experience (which seems to be what everybody wants)?

 

Would he inspire the players (if they weren't inspired by cooper)? And as for attracting players in the transfer window (that have never heard of him)?


Fine saying he got a tune ouf of England - but the quality of player he had at his disposal is a little different.

I imagine he would be more hands on than Cooper and play a better style of football, obviously its a big risk.

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