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davieG

Do we have a sense of entitlement?

By davieG, in Leicester City Forum

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davieG

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According to Martin O'Neill probably.

 

Leicester City icon says Ruud van Nistelrooy must overcome club's 'sense of entitlement'
Managers have struggled to win total backing from the stands at the King Power Stadium in recent years and O'Neill traces it back to the title glory of the 2015-16 season

ByJordan Blackwell
12:53, 28 NOV 2024

Ruud van Nistelrooy will have to overcome a “sense of entitlement" that has grown at Leicester City, the club’s iconic former manager Martin O’Neill has said.

The Dutchman is set to be appointed as the new boss at the King Power Stadium, and will be tasked with keeping City in the Premier League. Getting the fanbase fully behind him will be one of his big jobs.

With excitement around his imminent appointment, he will get early backing from the stands, but keeping it is a bigger ask. It’s something managers have struggled to do in recent years.

 

Claude Puel could not do it. Brendan Rodgers, despite significant success and claiming the club’s first FA Cup, was never totally loved, even before the relegation campaign completely eroded his reputation. Enzo Maresca’s stubbornness and style of play saw moans and groans from the stands, while Steve Cooper quickly lost support.

 

But O’Neill feels that the 2016 Premier League title win has changed perceptions at the club, making life difficult for managers. He hopes Van Nistelrooy gets the chance to win everybody over, even if he makes a slow start, like the Northern Irishman did back in the 90s.

 

“Since 2016, things have changed at the King Power Stadium,” O’Neill said on talkSPORT. “You’re talking about a side that has won the Premier League.

“I shouldn’t really say this about my former club where I really loved my time after a stodgy start, but there’s maybe a sense of entitlement that after winning the league in 2016, that life should be very good for them.

“They experienced relegation, and Maresca was there to get them back up again. He goes off to Chelsea. They’re left then with Steve Cooper. Steve’s allegiance with Nottingham Forest, I’d probably push that to the side.

“Initially like myself as a player at Nottingham Forest coming to Leicester, there was a little dissatisfaction, and obviously there was a lot more dissatisfaction with me when I couldn’t win a game to save my life early on.

“But overall, Van Nistelrooy, he’s got the name. He was a great, great player. Why not? If you’re going for someone now, he pushed himself into the limelight a couple of weeks ago and I suppose Leicester have decided to go with him.”

Bordersfox

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1 minute ago, davieG said:

According to Martin O'Neill probably.

 

Leicester City icon says Ruud van Nistelrooy must overcome club's 'sense of entitlement'
Managers have struggled to win total backing from the stands at the King Power Stadium in recent years and O'Neill traces it back to the title glory of the 2015-16 season

ByJordan Blackwell
12:53, 28 NOV 2024

Ruud van Nistelrooy will have to overcome a “sense of entitlement" that has grown at Leicester City, the club’s iconic former manager Martin O’Neill has said.

The Dutchman is set to be appointed as the new boss at the King Power Stadium, and will be tasked with keeping City in the Premier League. Getting the fanbase fully behind him will be one of his big jobs.

With excitement around his imminent appointment, he will get early backing from the stands, but keeping it is a bigger ask. It’s something managers have struggled to do in recent years.

 

Claude Puel could not do it. Brendan Rodgers, despite significant success and claiming the club’s first FA Cup, was never totally loved, even before the relegation campaign completely eroded his reputation. Enzo Maresca’s stubbornness and style of play saw moans and groans from the stands, while Steve Cooper quickly lost support.

 

But O’Neill feels that the 2016 Premier League title win has changed perceptions at the club, making life difficult for managers. He hopes Van Nistelrooy gets the chance to win everybody over, even if he makes a slow start, like the Northern Irishman did back in the 90s.

 

“Since 2016, things have changed at the King Power Stadium,” O’Neill said on talkSPORT. “You’re talking about a side that has won the Premier League.

“I shouldn’t really say this about my former club where I really loved my time after a stodgy start, but there’s maybe a sense of entitlement that after winning the league in 2016, that life should be very good for them.

“They experienced relegation, and Maresca was there to get them back up again. He goes off to Chelsea. They’re left then with Steve Cooper. Steve’s allegiance with Nottingham Forest, I’d probably push that to the side.

“Initially like myself as a player at Nottingham Forest coming to Leicester, there was a little dissatisfaction, and obviously there was a lot more dissatisfaction with me when I couldn’t win a game to save my life early on.

“But overall, Van Nistelrooy, he’s got the name. He was a great, great player. Why not? If you’re going for someone now, he pushed himself into the limelight a couple of weeks ago and I suppose Leicester have decided to go with him.”

I remember booing Martin as a young lad down at Filbo after a poor start.  I was entitled long before the title winning season.  

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SecretPro

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No. Anybody that says we do really hasn't followed the club closely enough in the last 4-5 years to take a proper opinion.

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UniFox21

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Completely ignoring the 2 or 3 5th place finishes, European campaigns and FA cup win for a squad that should easily have continued to be fighting for top 7. 

 

Apologies for expecting the minimum from the playing squad 

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VLC86

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Potentially means about last season and the atmosphere around Enzo but with that squad in that league what else can we expect.

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1 minute ago, lanefox said:

Yes , majority of the fan base are spoilt brats

You’ve definitely got a supply of honesty flags at home.

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em9999

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If Wanting your club to win is a sense of entitlement..

 

Every fan in the country is guilty 

 

What a load of nonsensical garbage 

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StanSP

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No. 

 

I think we did for a certain amount of time after winning the league. But when you have such an achievement it's only natural to want to have performances and successes on a similar level. A fan of a club should never be put down for wanting more from the club they support, and for wanting to show ambition. To me there's a fine line between that and 'entitlement'. 

 

 

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egg_fried_rice

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Maybe some fans do. I guess it depends what you class as entitlement. Of course the title win changed expectations to a degree, or perhaps rather it changed our perception of what the possibilities could be.

 

But speaking personally and for the Leicester fans I know, there hasn't been any entitlement this season. Frustration and grievance still lingering from our abhorrent and avoidable relegation and perceived lack of direction within the clubs hierarchy - yes - but no expectations of Europe, cups, or even a top half finish.

 

Just a desire to see a discernible style of play, total commitment from players, and coherent performances on the pitch. None of those are unrealistic or entitled wishes - people like O'Neill talking from the outside don't seem to see that, they just import their own bias and assumptions to the situation and spout forth accordingly.

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Fox 4 Life

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I think our fans are pretty toxic. The ground was a mess last year with people moaning and kicking off about Enzo Ball. Winning the league would always give us a sense of entitlement unfortunately.

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BrummieFOX

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As a match-going fanbase we're absolutely not and pretty much the opposite.

 

We clapped our team off the pitch as they got us relegated by phoning in performances for over a year and we spat at supporters who tried to suggest a change in management might help.

 

There's a growing section of the fanbase who are becoming more disillusioned with the club and how it has been run over the past 4 years or so, but this is far from being entitled, it's wanting and demanding better. 

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winteriscoming

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No. We hired a championship level manager in Cooper the football under has been dreadful both tactically and no where near good enough. I’m prob doing a disservice to the championship it was that bad. 
Why shouldn’t we aspire to do better? 
Majority of pundits just want us to dis appear into mid table mediocrity in the championship after winning the premiership. 

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em9999

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3 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

I think our fans are pretty toxic. The ground was a mess last year with people moaning and kicking off about Enzo Ball. Winning the league would always give us a sense of entitlement unfortunately.

Football fans in general are toxic ..

 

This isn't a Leicester problem its a country wide problem 

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