Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[suffolk fox]

I believe we cannot play this possession based style of football which every team tries to adapt.  Brentford, on Friday proved one thing.  Play it long, play it directly forwards and put crosses into the box. 

It was refreshing to see. We, simply don't do it.

[markko]

But he is not here. He was sussed in the championship and he has been sussed in the prem with a billion pounds worth of talent, which he would not have had with us.

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, markko said:

But he is not here. He was sussed in the championship and he has been sussed in the prem with a billion pounds worth of talent, which he would not have had with us.

Well, he is 1 point from top 4 and plays Southampton tonight. Chelsea have struggled lately and Palmers form has dropped, but they are still in a shout for a top 4 spot.

[ClaphamFox]

10 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Our transfer window under Enzo wasn't great though. We still spent 8m on Coady and while the players we bought we good enough for a Championship title challenge, we weren't looking into the future because these sort of players were never improving us for a Premier League season. Hermansen aside, of course.

And Fatawu.

[filbertway]

56 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Our transfer window under Enzo wasn't great though. We still spent 8m on Coady and while the players we bought we good enough for a Championship title challenge, we weren't looking into the future because these sort of players were never improving us for a Premier League season. Hermansen aside, of course.

Was Coady not pre Enzo? 

 

Mads, Fatawu, Yunus, Mavidi and Cannon were all players signed with potential upside. Although the Cannon signing made no sense at all, we at least broken even on that.

 

Doyle and Casadei on loan, two young players who we could potentially have signed had they impressed.

 

Wasn't a fan of the Coady or Winks signings, but Winks proved worthwhile in playing a big part in getting us up.

 

There was a general attitude of signing younger players with upside and/or resale value there though.

 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

And Fatawu.

I'm pretty sure Enzo gave the credit to Glover for the Fatawu signing.

 

And if Enzo had had his way we'd probably now be stuck with Sensi on an astronomical wage (who by the way can barely get a kick for lowly Monza atm).

[volpeazzurro]

6 hours ago, grth2004 said:

O’Neill or Morgan had never managed Forest before plus O’Neil was actually given a hard time at the start of his career and admitted he nearly quit due to the crowd getting on him. 
It’s a pointless argument because some fans didn't like the Forest connection just not your mates. 

It's not about my mates, I doubt if you put it to a vote on here people really cared much, it was more about the apparent lack of quality of his management that people judged him on. Neither was it the games he had us for in the Premiership, it was the whole of preseason as well!

[Realist Guy In The Room]

3 hours ago, suffolk fox said:

With the squad we have it's uncertain we would have been mid table if Enzo had stayed.  Way we played under him in the Championship playing out from the back and the consistent side to side passing at the back no way would we have been mid table.  It's impossible to predict.  PSR restrictions aside, it's impossible to know who we would have signed.

It wouldn’t have been Michael fooking Golding

[filbertway]

32 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

I'm pretty sure Enzo gave the credit to Glover for the Fatawu signing.

 

And if Enzo had had his way we'd probably now be stuck with Sensi on an astronomical wage (who by the way can barely get a kick for lowly Monza atm).

Good shout on Sensi, that was the one time I was happy that Rudkin said no to a manager, the signing made absolutely no sense long term.

[suffolk fox]

12 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

It wouldn’t have been Michael fooking Golding

It would have been pat of the reason we had to sell KDH part of the very deal that took him to Chelsea because of psr.  Fact Maresca doesn't play him at Chelsea proves that.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

It's not about my mates, I doubt if you put it to a vote on here people really cared much, it was more about the apparent lack of quality of his management that people judged him on. Neither was it the games he had us for in the Premiership, it was the whole of preseason as well!

This isn't a loaded question but are you saying this about the Forest connection because you don't think rivalry matters in that situation or because you don't see Forest in the same way others do?

 

I think it was a journalist from the Athletic that said Cooper was shocked by the backlash due to his Forest connection. I can't help but think people outside of Leicester underestimate our hatred of Forest just because of the age old boring arguement about them apparently not caring. 

[grth2004]

2 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

It's not about my mates, I doubt if you put it to a vote on here people really cared much, it was more about the apparent lack of quality of his management that people judged him on. Neither was it the games he had us for in the Premiership, it was the whole of preseason as well!

Put a vote out to ask was it wise to employ ex Forest Manager and would you like to employ Forest Managers in the future I’m sure your right mate 👍😂

[The Doctor]

2 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

This isn't a loaded question but are you saying this about the Forest connection because you don't think rivalry matters in that situation or because you don't see Forest in the same way others do?

 

I think it was a journalist from the Athletic that said Cooper was shocked by the backlash due to his Forest connection. I can't help but think people outside of Leicester underestimate our hatred of Forest just because of the age old boring arguement about them apparently not caring. 

I don't know anyone who didn't want Cooper because he was specifically at forest, the objection based on his time at forest would have been the same if it were Bournemouth or Brentford he'd been at, because it was built around his performance at forest, how they'd have probably got more points away from home if they'd just stayed home and hoped a meteor flattened the opposition ground at kickoff and how he seemed to have no tactical plan besides pray for luck.

 

there's an interesting question of whether people subconsciously focused more on those flaws because he's ex forest, but it wasn't really a straight up "he's ex forest, don't want him" attitude 

Edited 25 February by The Doctor

[The Year Of The Fox]

6 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Well, he is 1 point from top 4 and plays Southampton tonight. Chelsea have struggled lately and Palmers form has dropped, but they are still in a shout for a top 4 spot.

I don’t know of any Chelsea fan who likes Maresca

 

Read their forum. 

[HankMarvin]

10 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

how he seemed to have no tactical plan besides pray for luck

RVN might want to do some of that praying then as it results in more points, more goals scored and less conceded.

 

Edited 25 February by HankMarvin

[Chelmofox]

49 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I don’t know of any Chelsea fan who likes Maresca

 

Read their forum. 

2 good mates Chelsea fans. They like him. 

 

Chelsea forums are the pits/

[Gamble92]

59 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

I don't know anyone who didn't want Cooper because he was specifically at forest, the objection based on his time at forest would have been the same if it were Bournemouth or Brentford he'd been at, because it was built around his performance at forest, how they'd have probably got more points away from home if they'd just stayed home and hoped a meteor flattened the opposition ground at kickoff and how he seemed to have no tactical plan besides pray for luck.

 

there's an interesting question of whether people subconsciously focused more on those flaws because he's ex forest, but it wasn't really a straight up "he's ex forest, don't want him" attitude 

Yeah if anything I wanted him to do well to annoy the Forest lot more. Everyone I knew from their lot was clearly fuming he'd come to us. Just a massive piss take that it turned out every bit as bad as it did.

[Glasgow fox]

Not sure which thread this should be in but apologies if it's the wrong one.  I cannot see him getting the sack even if we lose every game till the end of the season.  We are skint so w8ll not pay him off.  Would not be surprised if his contract has a clause where if we stay up he gets a bonus and if we get relegated he dies on his sword and we part amicably with no compensation.

[HarryDee8]

Hes clever enough to know from the reactions that Rudkin is a wally.

 

He probably knows rudders and lcfc doesn't have the money to sack him either 😄 

[Tuna]

Surely two more defeats and he is gone?

[oxtonfox]

I’d be happy with Neil Warnock to be honest with you. Get him in and let Ruud go. 

[Claridge]

6 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

This isn't a loaded question but are you saying this about the Forest connection because you don't think rivalry matters in that situation or because you don't see Forest in the same way others do?

 

I think it was a journalist from the Athletic that said Cooper was shocked by the backlash due to his Forest connection. I can't help but think people outside of Leicester underestimate our hatred of Forest just because of the age old boring arguement about them apparently not caring. 

I totally despise Forest, but wanted Cooper to do well

[Gazza M]

18 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Surely two more defeats and he is gone?

I was saying that before the last two. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

2 good mates Chelsea fans. They like him. 

 

Chelsea forums are the pits/

I’m sure other fans say this about here mate 😂

[volpeazzurro]

7 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

This isn't a loaded question but are you saying this about the Forest connection because you don't think rivalry matters in that situation or because you don't see Forest in the same way others do?

 

I think it was a journalist from the Athletic that said Cooper was shocked by the backlash due to his Forest connection. I can't help but think people outside of Leicester underestimate our hatred of Forest just because of the age old boring arguement about them apparently not caring. 

Good question and probably a little bit of both.

 

It would be interesting to know precisely where Cooper perceived his 'backlash' was coming from and whether it was right from the start of his tenure or when things had started to go wrong? 

 

When we think of rivalry between say us Forest and Derby, I think the biggest rivalry by far is between Forest and Derby, perhaps because historically, we weren't really a threat to either of them. Apart from personal contacts and relatives myself in Nottingham and Derby who tell me similar, my son when at Uni there played for two local teams. He being a Leicester season ticket holder got the occasional expected comment, nothing dramatic, but it was made quite clear, had he come from Derby, things may have been quite a bit different 🤣.

 

I also think to a certain extent some of the rivalry had petered out somewhat since the 70s and 80s. But there again, probably since all seater stadiums and the completely different make up of crowds all over now, that too may have had an influence and watered the rivalry down? Of course there's still rivalry, but just not as intense or vicious as previously. 

 

When Cooper first got the job it didn't bother me personally in the slightest where he was from or people I knew but, it could be argued that that is probably due to me and them being of a certain age now? However, my son aged 24yrs and his friends and current teammates at a now local leicester team didn't appear to care much either, whether some rated him or not was a different issue, but, it wasn't because of who he'd previously managed when I'd watched matches with them in the clubhouse. 

 

I suppose we're all different but from what I generally heard or read, most people, whilst he may not have been their first choice, just wanted him to do a good job regardless. 

Edited 25 February by volpeazzurro