Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[coolhandfox]

4 hours ago, Tuna said:

Blatantly obvious they are stringing him along until the season is over, when he will be sacked.

Can't believe how many people still think his staying.

 

[Filbert Fireworks]

14 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I really just think its that Wout Faes can not defend, it’s basically that simple 2 times relegated with that clown

You forgot to mention his shield - the wall of steel that is Boubakary cI'm too good for the championship" Soumare in a double pivot who is always out of position and never tracks back. 

[Guy]

7 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Given Top has been over this week, and I know it will largely be to focus on Vards, I wonder if they may also make a decision and announcement as to Ruud’s future, perhaps given the Vardy announcement once our relegation was confirmed the club didn’t want anything else to over shadow that. Vardy is gone after Sunday, so maybe just maybe on Monday with one game left to play we see/hear some news on the way forward next season.  

I'm still of the mindset that if Vards doesn't score tomorrow v Ipswich that he will still play at Bournemouth in the quest for goal no.200, regardless of what's been said so far about tomorrow being 'it'. It would defy all logic if not as he's clearly stated he wants that 200th goal before he leaves, even if it's obviously not guaranteed to come in either remaining game still. Then again it's been a logic defying season here when all's told so nothing would surprise me! 

[Claudio Fannieri]

16 minutes ago, Guy said:

I'm still of the mindset that if Vards doesn't score tomorrow v Ipswich that he will still play at Bournemouth in the quest for goal no.200, regardless of what's been said so far about tomorrow being 'it'. It would defy all logic if not as he's clearly stated he wants that 200th goal before he leaves, even if it's obviously not guaranteed to come in either remaining game still. Then again it's been a logic defying season here when all's told so nothing would surprise me! 

I don’t think he will I think he wants to leave on 500 appearances and 13 years if he gets his 200th goal then it’s an extra bonus. 
 

it has already been reported he is off on a family holiday next week so will not be at the club. I also think he will announce where he is going in the next week or so too, maybe the two are linked which would also explain why he isn’t that bothered about playing next week as he isn’t carrying on in the top flight. 

[markko]

He looked like he was injured towards the end of Forest game. It might be that is the medical advice. Just a thought. Anyway I hope he gets his goal. He has been a colossal for us. Irreplaceable. Thanks for so many great memories.

[Guy]

33 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I don’t think he will I think he wants to leave on 500 appearances and 13 years if he gets his 200th goal then it’s an extra bonus. 
 

it has already been reported he is off on a family holiday next week so will not be at the club. I also think he will announce where he is going in the next week or so too, maybe the two are linked which would also explain why he isn’t that bothered about playing next week as he isn’t carrying on in the top flight. 

I see, I wasn't privy to his actually being on holiday when the Bournemouth game takes place so it looks like the Ipswich keeper needs bribing tomorrow now then for goal no.200 to be guaranteed to happen! 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Again I am far from advocating keeping RVN but given some of the options we are considering is Russell Martin who premier league record of 0.31 points per game is considerably worse than Ruud’s 0.6 or Dyche who would be a complete change in style and potentially more aligned to Cooper in terms of recruitment strategy, I can see why people are sceptical to making a change for changes sake. 
 

I want us to be brave and appoint a progressive manager like in the profile of a Muslic, Wellens, Rohl or Manning etc than just plump for another manager because they have premier league experience. 
 

Let’s go for a manager with a potentially higher ceiling who can grow with us and could shine in the premier league rather than making a similar mistake as we did with Cooper and appoint someone who has experience, has a shelf life and is very limited. 

[studentofthegame]

41 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Again I am far from advocating keeping RVN but given some of the options we are considering is Russell Martin who premier league record of 0.31 points per game is considerably worse than Ruud’s 0.6 or Dyche who would be a complete change in style and potentially more aligned to Cooper in terms of recruitment strategy, I can see why people are sceptical to making a change for changes sake. 
 

I want us to be brave and appoint a progressive manager like in the profile of a Muslic, Wellens, Rohl or Manning etc than just plump for another manager because they have premier league experience. 
 

Let’s go for a manager with a potentially higher ceiling who can grow with us and could shine in the premier league rather than making a similar mistake as we did with Cooper and appoint someone who has experience, has a shelf life and is very limited. 

But the issue is that RVN has showed absolutely nothing resembling potential to grow, he looks wildly out of his depth and completely clueless

 

I agree with you in concept but right now we don't have a manager with the potential to shine, no matter how much polish you apply, a turd is still a turd.

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 minute ago, studentofthegame said:

But the issue is that RVN has showed absolutely nothing resembling potential to grow, he looks wildly out of his depth and completely clueless

 

I agree with you in concept but right now we don't have a manager with the potential to shine, no matter how much polish you apply, a turd is still a turd.

I agree and what I am saying is what is the point of paying off said turd to the tune of £3m to then replace with equal level of turdness. 
 

if we cannot replace Ruud with someone progressive then we may as well stick rather than twist with yet another duffer. 

[Pliskin]

6 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

There’s 2 arguments about the culture though. If it’s rooted in the club with the likes of Winks and Vestaguard taking the piss. Then realistically it’s going to take more than 9 months to identify and root out the bad eggs. A new man comes in, especially if it’s late June due to PSR and we are then expecting them to assess and build a squad, I can tell you now that ain’t gonna happen, it’s back to square one he will try a few different things, decide who shit etc.

The likely options we are going for Martin, or some other tippy tappy moron or the the random swipe of Dyche. The issues remain the club doesn’t have identity, culture is driven from a higher level. The side assembled by Martin was easily beaten by us on several occasions. Then some are advocating a bloke from Bristol city who got royally spanked 6-0 in the playoffs! Not one goal in a game as important as that is pathetic! The managers we are linked with don’t inspire me and I don’t have faith the club can think outside the box. Finally the squad that came down last time was massively better, we have the huge task of finding a striker who can shoot and also competing again well run ambitious clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham. I think there’s a reasonable chance we stay down for a while and gradually slide towards League 1 like Stoke. 

I completely agree. 
 

Our opportunity was this season to not **** up, but unfortunately we haven’t. So I agree I think it’s more likely we do a Luton. You feel this season has well and truly knocked the stuffing out of the club, the sail has torn and the ship is sinking.  

Edited 17 May 2025 by Pliskin

[Rob1742]

19 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Again I am far from advocating keeping RVN but given some of the options we are considering is Russell Martin who premier league record of 0.31 points per game is considerably worse than Ruud’s 0.6 or Dyche who would be a complete change in style and potentially more aligned to Cooper in terms of recruitment strategy, I can see why people are sceptical to making a change for changes sake. 
 

I want us to be brave and appoint a progressive manager like in the profile of a Muslic, Wellens, Rohl or Manning etc than just plump for another manager because they have premier league experience. 
 

Let’s go for a manager with a potentially higher ceiling who can grow with us and could shine in the premier league rather than making a similar mistake as we did with Cooper and appoint someone who has experience, has a shelf life and is very limited. 

One of my key reasons for keeping RVN is to avoid a huge pay off that can the. be used for player budget,  but also the fact that it’s easy to say “ get rid” but not as easy to find a new manager.

 

Finding the right fit is so hard and given a level playing fiend RVN might be the right fit. Although we have lost games, there isn’t any noise of him losing the dressing room which has happened to a number of managers along the way. 

 

I remember thinking we were sorted when we got Ian Holloway in, but then after the event speaking to a Director of the club at that time who said it ended up being the wrong decision as the club was just too big for him, he was lost in a club of our size.

 

That is why someone like Wellens maybe good at Orient, but at bigger clubs with bigger personality players he may not be able to manage that level of player.

 

Wellens wasn’t the most diplomatic when he was a player here, quite disruptive and that’s fine if you have a big personality and credentials, but not so much if you haven’t yet delivered.

 

Roy Keane couldn’t even get it right. He was a control freak but that never worked as his multimillionaire playing staff didn’t support him.

 

In sticking with Ruud, with the added reason being I don’t want a new manager coming in and thinking “ Jesus we might as well have stuck with Ruud”

 

We certainly won’t have a budget for a top manager, so I think we should give him at least three months and then blow our money on a pay off. Let’s not spend our budget on a pay off unless we really have to. 

 

 

Edited 18 May 2025 by Rob1742

[cityfanlee23]

Think he stays after this result. I've been a vocal advocate for Danny Rohl for about 12 months, and there are multiple candidates I'd take over Ruud, we cannot ignore the results and some of the performances, however we must also acknowledge that we have performed well in quite a few games under Ruud even when results didn't go our way due to mistakes/missing chances, West Ham, Brighton, Man City, Liverpool, Southampton, Ipswich today and a few others.

We have beaten both of the teams that are going down with us quite comfortably and recently there have been a couple of positions that have taken a bit of pressure off of us in the transfer window in Thomas, Stolarczyk and Justin. 
We have a decent core of young players and the potential to possibly keep El Khannouss could create a really exciting team next season. 

We were absolutely awful under Ruud for much of his time here, but we have put in some decent performances here and there, and there is no doubt we have improved recently against the teams we are set to face next season. I believe we have a core of a squad that can compete at that level next year without the need for 10+ in and out in the window. I believe that we can fight for promotion with most of the candidates we are linked with, most of the candidates fans have suggested, but also with Ruud in charge. 

After the first few games in the disaster run, for me, the question became less about "can Ruud keep us up" and more "is he showing he can rebuild and get us promoted", for a large part of that run the answer was no, but recently I believe Ruud has shown a glimpse of what next season could look like. 
The most important aspect of this rebuild imo is not Ruud, it's the DOF position and our plan as a club to build a foundation based around an actual identity and direction. 
If we get into the summer and our main manager targets have decided to go elsewhere or turned us down, I won't be too worried if we give Ruud a summer window and 10 games to prove he can get us up, but we simply have to make sure that any signings in and out are made with a blueprint in mind so that should we be in a poor position after 10 games we can replace him with a manager who can continue the direction with a few tweaks rather than going down the Manchester United route of needing a rebuild every season because the new manager doesn't have the same philosophy as the last. 

I still want us to go for Rohl, but if it's Ruud I can just about forget this season (I desperately want to) and start fresh in summer. 

Edited 18 May 2025 by cityfanlee23

[foxfanazer]

The powers that be will feel fully justified in keeping him now. Just hope he learns on the job and fast

[Guest Bilo]

I am beginning to see it as less unthinkable that he stays.

 

It would save money on sacking him and on a compensation package for a replacement that could be put into new contracts to tie down the likes of Nelson and Monga, with the money saved from big name departures going into the summer transfer kitty. We have no idea what RVN wants in terms of players because he really hasn't signed anyone.

 

I have very bad feelings about it, and him staying is absolutely not what I want, but I could see how they'd justify it. Especially if he's made big promises about replicating what he did at PSV here.

[lcfc sheff]

Think a lot of us saw there would be an improvement in performance against the other shit teams. 
 

the league is never been so competitive, if Ruud has the backing of the players and the youth (Evans and Monga) then we should try him next season. 

[Torten]

Build the statue

[Mark]

I think Andy King has had alot to do with the improvement in performances not just results but with the likes of Thomas and McAteer who have also done much better since he came back, also integrating the likes of Monga and Evans who he prepares each time they come on.. I’ve noticed he’s having a lot of input on the touchline with Ruud.

[Phild]

Now just go you absolute disaster from start to relegation finish - nothing more to say. 

[SafewayFox]

Interesting that people forgot how little fight and unwanted records that Ruud dished up.

 

Playing against poor teams, when there is nothing to play for will be different to playing against poor teams with it all to play for.

 

I still can’t tell you what Ruud sets up a team to do, awful tactician, hideous manager.

[moore_94]

Still want him sacked the second the Bournemouth game is done

 

The football and records broken prior to relegation being confirmed is unforgivable for me

[The Bear]

Oh dear. It's the "winning games now it doesn't matter in the slightest and the pressure's off" that has got to be worrying for you lot.

 

Not only for the mentality of the squad (where were these type of performances when you really needed them?) But if it convinces the powers that be to keep the manager then they must be mad. You'd only have to sack him once (if) you came back up. 

Edited 18 May 2025 by The Bear

[trooky]

6 minutes ago, Mark said:

I think Andy King has had alot to do with the improvement in performances not just results but with the likes of Thomas and McAteer who have also done much better since he came back, also integrating the likes of Monga and Evans who he prepares each time they come on.. I’ve noticed he’s having a lot of input on the touchline with Ruud.

And what evidence do you have for this? 

[Jon the Hat]

Just now, trooky said:

And what evidence do you have for this? 

Absolutely none of course.  RVN has to go as soon as possible, and Andy has many years of learning to do before he can be considered an influential coach.

[Guest Bilo]

3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Still want him sacked the second the Bournemouth game is done

 

The football and records broken prior to relegation being confirmed is unforgivable for me

That's certainly what I want to happen. But I can see it not happening and how they'd justify it.

[Guest Bilo]

Just now, Jon the Hat said:

Absolutely none of course.  RVN has to go as soon as possible, and Andy has many years of learning to do before he can be considered an influential coach.

I'm not sure I agree.

 

We have been licking our lips at the likes of Danny Röhl or Will Still coming here, and they're both younger than our Kingy.