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Posted
16 minutes ago, Daz93 said:

We need someone who can completely rebuild the squad, dictating standards and demanding quality.

 

On the evidence so far he unfortunately is not that person.

Whats Puel up to now adays 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Or just ignore the obvious to suit your narrative?

 

Stephy wasn’t injured when ignored by Ruud for months, when Ruud was trotting out Ayew and Reid consecutively (after nine back to back home defeats).

 

During that time period, Facundo and Kasey would have been better options too.

 

Okoli is leaving? Ok, so we don’t all expect Faes to leave after his comments yet he starts? 

Did you really make that comparison to Ward and Iversen, when 99% of people on here have likely stated at some point, that if Brendan dropped Ward earlier, we’d have had a realistic chance of staying up. 
 

If you’re going to play down the options available to Ruud throughout the season, at least be consistent.

What narrative? The squad is ****ing awful.

 

Iversen was statistically worse than Ward by the way.

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Posted
1 minute ago, AKCJ said:

What narrative? The squad is ****ing awful.

 

Iversen was statistically worse than Ward by the way.

It’s so true. People making out like there was a selection of this shit group of players that would have made significant difference.

 

They all underperformed, and there are reasons why certain players didn’t get in at certain times, collectively we couldn’t defend, we had games where Faes was awful, Okoli awful, Vestaguard awful, Coady Awful, Justin and Kristansen were awful. The midfield offered little protection and little going forward , Ndidi says he was concentrating too much on getting forward but I must have missed that bit, Soumare is awful, Skipp meh, Winks awful, Mavididi had a number of games where he looked like he had gone on holiday,  Facundo I like the effort of but he can give the ball away ALOT and try to do it all, so I can see he may annoy some folk, Bilal has been trying to do a lot himself. Honestly I’m not sure what you can do with that, it’s basically a championship squad and we’ve not lost to the Championship teams and a few others, realistically it’s where we are at with the squad assembled by our blessed Rudkin. 
 

The biggest issue we had was in games against Brentford, Palace, Wolves, Everton, the defenders had basic brain farts when we needed to keep it tight and frustrate. The fundamentals are a strong defence to build from, I’m finding quite hard to believe many people could get this defence to keep many clean sheets, Southampton and Ipswich aside.

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Posted

It's not like we're a draw here, and likely to lure in a hot prospect of a young manager. If the options are the mediocre retreads whose names you see bandied about, I'd be inclined to give Ruud a season with his own signings and coaches to see what he can do.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Deeg67 said:

It's not like we're a draw here, and likely to lure in a hot prospect of a young manager. If the options are the mediocre retreads whose names you see bandied about, I'd be inclined to give Ruud a season with his own signings and coaches to see what he can do.

I’m mean we could be a draw if we didn’t have a 3rd rate PE teacher running football operations.

 

Out of the options we’ve been linked with, just no really!

Posted
40 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

What narrative? The squad is ****ing awful.

 

Iversen was statistically worse than Ward by the way.

You were saying about Stephy being injured but ignored the months where he wasn’t?

 

Whilst commenting that Okoli is leaving so not starting whilst Faes/Soumare are both more likely to leave but started regularly, shall I continue?

 

Please enlighten me about Ward being a better keeper than Iversen statistically though.

 

I must have imagined how toxic the KP got towards Ward, which is clearly nothing to do with how awful he’s been for us 🙄

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Posted
3 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

It's not like we're a draw here, and likely to lure in a hot prospect of a young manager. If the options are the mediocre retreads whose names you see bandied about, I'd be inclined to give Ruud a season with his own signings and coaches to see what he can do.

Ironic. He pretty much ushered us back into Championship. 

Posted
2 hours ago, sm1 said:

This guy led us to 17 losses from 19 games from mid Dec to April, scoring 6 and conceding 46. There's no way he should be here even 1 day longer after the season ends.

We might see him for a lot longer than that. 

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, AKCJ said:

What's your point? The squad is still woeful.

The point is despite the squad being “woeful” Cooper at least got a tune out of them, and Ruud hasn’t even managed a squeak. Regardless of the squad Ruud has been appalling and can’t be the manager going forward, end of. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The point is despite the squad being “woeful” Cooper at least got a tune out of them, and Ruud hasn’t even managed a squeak. Regardless of the squad Ruud has been appalling and can’t be the manager going forward, end of. 

It was very out of tune to be fair. Cooper was terrible Ruud has been terrible, we need a clean break. I keep thinking it would be that bad if he stayed, it could be worse(Martin) but it’s time for a break. Also one small bad run he’d just be sacked.

 

New manager needed.

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Seems that rewriting RvN's history at Leicester City is becoming more contagious than Covid.

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Nice bloke, been dignified in his press conferences, but utter sh1te as a football manager and tactician.

Very few top class players make outstanding managers, strange.

Hope we go for someone who is given a clean slate, working with a new, competent DoF and instils (no pun intended) that 'Foxes Never Quits' attitude.

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The point is despite the squad being “woeful” Cooper at least got a tune out of them, and Ruud hasn’t even managed a squeak. Regardless of the squad Ruud has been appalling and can’t be the manager going forward, end of. 

 

This is revisionist nonsense.

 

The vast majority wanted Cooper gone. 

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The point is despite the squad being “woeful” Cooper at least got a tune out of them, and Ruud hasn’t even managed a squeak. Regardless of the squad Ruud has been appalling and can’t be the manager going forward, end of. 

Ruud has as many points from the 12 teams Cooper played against and he's yet to play Bournemouth.

 

The idea that Cooper got a tune out of those players is ****ing laughable.

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Think at some point we have to admit that it wouldn’t have mattered who the manager was here this season, we were going down as our squad was that bad. It really stinks.  Getting to 25 points in itself is a result between Cooper and Ruud.  Pep, Klopp et al wouldn’t have kept this shower up.

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I’ll repeat myself for the 100th time.

 

Do we have a top 10 squad? No

 

Is it however, a squad that should have broken unwanted records? Also, no.

 

We’re the first top flight time in history to have not scored in nine consecutive home games.

 

Defending that is madness surely?

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Posted
10 hours ago, Craig said:

I am astonished that a couple of games vs already relegated sides with nothing to play for are somehow persuading people that he is the right man for a promotion push.

 

If Ipswich could finish then today could have been a pretty heavy defeat. They missed some really, really good chances. The issues that have led to record breaking losing/non-scoring runs were all apparent again today. 

 

And as for team selections... 

 

 

With a board that's appointed Dean Smith, Maresca, Cooper and RVN since they sacked Rodgers do you have any confidence they'll get the next appointment right if we're only being linked with out of work managers. 

 

The championship is even shitter than us even with Ruud in charge. If Sheffield are promoted then none of the existing teams left have the parachute payments which is huge. 

 

Until Rudkin has gone and the club changes from top to bottom appointing a new manager will change nothing.

 

We need a complete reset otherwise we'll never break the cycle of relegation and promotion. 

Posted
42 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The point is despite the squad being “woeful” Cooper at least got a tune out of them, and Ruud hasn’t even managed a squeak. Regardless of the squad Ruud has been appalling and can’t be the manager going forward, end of. 

He didn't. Cooper had the summer transfer window and a completely fully fit squad, and he played some of the most turgid unstructured crap i have ever seen with some of the most baffling lineups i've ever seen. Cooper was the worst modern era manager i had ever seen at the KP. 

 

Cooper doesn't have some sort of stand out record vs Ruud. The reality is that both couldn't get this squad to over achieve. However, towards the end Ruud has approached it as a project and i do think this has lead to an uptick in performances with a good focus on development talent. I oddly see us 12th in the 6th game form table - i know this doesn't mean much, but i think momentum into next season is important and we are the only one of the relegated teams who has any.

 

I bet many on here would either recommend Ipswich keep McKenna or even take him. With a pretty lumpy transfer kitty (and taking players like Szmodics who many here were desperate for) he mustered 4 wins and and i think they have managed 1 PL victory this calendar year (i think?). Its tough at the bottom end of the table if you don't get things right.

 

Its odd. I thought 30 points might be enough at the start of the season. If (a big if) we win against Bournemouth then we end on 28 points. In the end about 40 points were needed, and if they were in real trouble Spurs and Man U would have pulled the triggers on their managers and sorted themselves out. This was not a season to give hope to the promoted teams.

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Posted
6 hours ago, sm1 said:

This guy led us to 17 losses from 19 games from mid Dec to April, scoring 6 and conceding 46. There's no way he should be here even 1 day longer after the season ends.

Finally, some sense has been said about this donut :appl:

Posted
7 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

To sum up my feelings on this argument, I'm more worried about us replacing our squad, mainly our striker, than I am about replacing RVN. What does that tell you? 

Yes it's the same people replacing the striker as the manager 😂

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