Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[Happy Fox]

6 minutes ago, AjcW said:

To be fair to Rohl, it's been up in the air all season whether he gets paid on pay day or not..... that would make me pretty loose on loyalty!

 

Sheffield Wednesday being taken over by an American Consortium with links to Walmart owner? could be good times ahead for them..

[Les-TA-Jon]

3 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

We are a very secretive club. I think this is doing 1+1 and getting 3. I personally doubt any negative reaction factored into any decisions and was just used by reporters who know very little to juice the story up a little.

 

If Top wants Martin (and lets be honest, Top has form with this sort of appointment), then a few of us calling him Brussel isn't going to change his mind.

And so it shouldn't.

 

There's room for the club to want to appease and please fans, whilst also ensuring that high level strategic decisions are not based on the whims of the fanbase. 

 

The tactical/managerial wants of 90% of the fanbase is "GET IT FORWARD" 

 

 

[Guest Bilo]

Questioning Danny Röhl's loyalty seems very unfair considering the absolute shitshow that is Sheffield Wednesday under Chansiri. Being publicly undermined on the regular by a man who sometimes forgets to pay you isn't a conducive environment to someone getting a long-term service award.

[AjcW]

12 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Sheffield Wednesday being taken over by an American Consortium with links to Walmart owner? could be good times ahead for them..

Let the good time Rohl!

[Kp1984]

Tried to tell you all that I heard he had been round the training ground telling players he was off after last game a few weeks back. That I heard this from an inside source but I got mocked by a few. 😂

[DezFox]

1 hour ago, Sankey93 said:

I agree that Rohl has behaved badly especially with the hints and interviews! If he came to us we would all love it joke and laugh about it but a leopard doesn’t change their spots and soon as a bigger club comes in for him he would do the exact same thing to us. But yeah agree I’d take Rohl 😂😂😂

If a bigger club comes in for him then he has done well. So I would be game. Enzo left after one year, great appointment. It would be a great problem to have IMO. 

Edited 22 May 2025 by DezFox

[DezFox]

13 minutes ago, Kp1984 said:

Tried to tell you all that I heard he had been round the training ground telling players he was off after last game a few weeks back. That I heard this from an inside source but I got mocked by a few. 😂

Yeah right 😜

[Kp1984]

20 minutes ago, DezFox said:

Yeah right 😜

I heard it a week or so back I messaged in here and just got the same response as this lol. Half expected it tho but it was at least nice knowing that RVN was off sooner then the rest  

[DezFox]

1 hour ago, Kp1984 said:

I heard it a week or so back I messaged in here and just got the same response as this lol. Half expected it tho but it was at least nice knowing that RVN was off sooner then the rest  

I believe you, was just pretending to mock you. 😂 keep it coming dont let the haters grind you down 👏

Edited 22 May 2025 by DezFox

[cityfanlee23]

2 hours ago, Bilo said:

Questioning Danny Röhl's loyalty seems very unfair considering the absolute shitshow that is Sheffield Wednesday under Chansiri. Being publicly undermined on the regular by a man who sometimes forgets to pay you isn't a conducive environment to someone getting a long-term service award.

Not sure if the response was related to mine from earlier but just incase wanted to clarify, I don't question his loyalty, and working under Chansiri is a nightmare, I'm just slightly concerned about the nature of some of his interviews where he has come out and said he's made his position clear to the chairman but refuses to say what that position is, but at the same time is giving interviews abroad where he gives the impression he's done at Wednesday. It just feels a little bit "off" with the way he's handled it. 
I know a lot of sheffield wednesday fans have been quite surprised by his general attitude change in the last few weeks, mainly because Chansiri hasn't changed, it's been a mess since he arrived but towards the end of the season it seems Rohl has become a little bit more relaxed in voicing his opinions. 

I'm all for calling out Chansiri for sure, I just hope this is out of necessity to escape that club rather than him having a completely different personality to the one who arrived at Wednesday, especially given what a mess our club is. 

I fully support Rohl on this, but the sudden change in his attitude was quite surprising.

[SemperEadem]

Just now, cityfanlee23 said:

Not sure if the response was related to mine from earlier but just incase wanted to clarify, I don't question his loyalty, and working under Chansiri is a nightmare, I'm just slightly concerned about the nature of some of his interviews where he has come out and said he's made his position clear to the chairman but refuses to say what that position is, but at the same time is giving interviews abroad where he gives the impression he's done at Wednesday. It just feels a little bit "off" with the way he's handled it. 
I know a lot of sheffield wednesday fans have been quite surprised by his general attitude change in the last few weeks, mainly because Chansiri hasn't changed, it's been a mess since he arrived but towards the end of the season it seems Rohl has become a little bit more relaxed in voicing his opinions. 

I'm all for calling out Chansiri for sure, I just hope this is out of necessity to escape that club rather than him having a completely different personality to the one who arrived at Wednesday, especially given what a mess our club is. 

I fully support Rohl on this, but the sudden change in his attitude was quite surprising.

Rohl has lost a lot of support over the last few weeks.

[Guest Bilo]

1 minute ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Not sure if the response was related to mine from earlier but just incase wanted to clarify, I don't question his loyalty, and working under Chansiri is a nightmare, I'm just slightly concerned about the nature of some of his interviews where he has come out and said he's made his position clear to the chairman but refuses to say what that position is, but at the same time is giving interviews abroad where he gives the impression he's done at Wednesday. It just feels a little bit "off" with the way he's handled it. 
I know a lot of sheffield wednesday fans have been quite surprised by his general attitude change in the last few weeks, mainly because Chansiri hasn't changed, it's been a mess since he arrived but towards the end of the season it seems Rohl has become a little bit more relaxed in voicing his opinions. 

I'm all for calling out Chansiri for sure, I just hope this is out of necessity to escape that club rather than him having a completely different personality to the one who arrived at Wednesday, especially given what a mess our club is. 

I fully support Rohl on this, but the sudden change in his attitude was quite surprising.

Angling for the sack so he gets a payout and more clubs will be interested as there's no compensation package? 

[cityfanlee23]

Just now, Bilo said:

Angling for the sack so he gets a payout and more clubs will be interested as there's no compensation package? 

Quite possibly, and I can fully justify him doing that at Wednesday too, the worrying part is after about 3 weeks I could justify him doing that with us also 

[cityfanlee23]

1 minute ago, SemperEadem said:

Rohl has lost a lot of support over the last few weeks.

I think he has yeah. It's such a complex issue at Wednesday so it's hard to tell where the loss of support is coming from, because both the performances over the last 3 months and Danny's general attitude to the media questions have changed. I think the fans have lost a bit of support on both fronts really, prior to recently Rohl had almost encased the fans and squad in his own little bubble where they essentially just got behind each other despite the boards antics, now it feels like that bubble isn't there anymore? not sure if that makes any sense or not. 

The performances collapsing I think is a mixture of having a pretty weak team where they have had a player incoming and outgoing of about 30 players since last summer with a total spend of about £5m, so rough patches can happen, add to that the fact players and staff have no idea if they are even getting paid that week, as well as general fan frustration when the owner is telling the fans they need to fundraise to repay the loans because he's not paying them anymore, promising to sell then not making attempts to get a deal done etc etc, Wednesday have just become really toxic. 

The part that I'm still confused about, is have the performances dropped because of the toxicity, or have they dropped because of the system Danny has created or the players simply not good enough? 
The first 15 months of his time there were stellar, an incredible turn around, the last few have been toxic. I still think Danny is a hell of a talent and a fresh environment could bring him back to his best and see him challenge for the prem with us, no doubt about that. 

[HighPeakFox]

I get tired of fans turning on fellow fans, as if their inferior method of support was the reason the club is an entire mess. 

 

I totally support those that are being proactive, but don't let's delude ourselves that what we say, think or do is of any great importance to those in the higher management. All they do is play on your emotional connection to get money out of you. None of this is the fault of the guys that sing, the casual observers or the incredibly annoying arm folding middle aged blokes that treat their curved piece of fading blue plastic as their kingdom, or any other subset of fans we have. 

 

Don't blame one another, it's those with 'control' of all the money that are to blame. 

[David Hankey]

1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said:

I get tired of fans turning on fellow fans, as if their inferior method of support was the reason the club is an entire mess. 

 

I totally support those that are being proactive, but don't let's delude ourselves that what we say, think or do is of any great importance to those in the higher management. All they do is play on your emotional connection to get money out of you. None of this is the fault of the guys that sing, the casual observers or the incredibly annoying arm folding middle aged blokes that treat their curved piece of fading blue plastic as their kingdom, or any other subset of fans we have. 

 

Don't blame one another, it's those with 'control' of all the money that are to blame. 

I thank God I had the temerity not to renew my season ticket 2 years ago after 15 years of having one. 

 

I wish my home-town Club all the best for the future but they really have to question themselves where it all went wrong.

[Finn Claw II]

Does RVN get full away-end TIFO for the last game of the season?

 

Perhaps  a sea of red with a smattering of green as a nod to his win record in the PL.

 

It’ll be interesting to see if he waves to the fans at the final whistle or any of the players that will likely go 

 

[Danizen]

8 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

 

Out of respect for Van Nistelrooy? 

 

What absolute bollocks. Wasn't it Ruud, himself asking for clarification one way or another, a few weeks ago? Surely the respectful thing to do is let everyone know where they stand. 

[Kp1984]

1 hour ago, DezFox said:

I believe you, was just pretending to mock you. 😂 keep it coming dont let the haters grind you down 👏

I don’t get info at all often that just fell in my lap from a person that works at the club. I don’t see him often but he felt the need to tell me RVN was going around staff and players etc telling them that he would parting the club after Bournemouth. I trust the guy as he he’s a Man Utd fan and isn’t a joker when it comes to this kind of stuff so I jumped on to let you all know 😂

[Kitchandro]

3 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

And so it shouldn't.

 

There's room for the club to want to appease and please fans, whilst also ensuring that high level strategic decisions are not based on the whims of the fanbase. 

 

The tactical/managerial wants of 90% of the fanbase is "GET IT FORWARD" 

 

 

If you mean it’s this simplistic then I don’t think that’s true. There’s a good percentage of fans that have watched enough football to know what works and what doesn’t with a certain group of players, they’re just not very articulate on the whole. 

 

Besides, football really isn’t that complicated. The fact remains that you can’t score goals without ‘getting it forward’ and you can’t win games without scoring goals. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know if you’re passing it around the back with no urgency, at some point you’re going to need to get it forward to cause a threat. 

 

This is what I mean when I talk about Martin. Yes, like Rodgers, he ‘speaks well’ which gives the impression of tactical nous. But there’s no substance there, they don’t understand playing the percentages, they don’t consider how most goals are actually scored, and few of them appreciate the importance of tempo and movement off the ball. These are very basic aspects that are also some of the most important and central considerations in English football tactics. Yet many managers ignore them.

 

The average fan is as tactically astute, about their own team at least, as most managers are. Managers are by and large just ex-players, that doesn’t qualify them as tacticians.

Edited 22 May 2025 by Kitchandro

[AjcW]

Spent the week thinking he might be gone already and the training video has done nothing to dispel that  either that or he’s bone idle and let’s BBM do everything 

[OnlyOneCity]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

I get tired of fans turning on fellow fans, as if their inferior method of support was the reason the club is an entire mess. 

 

I totally support those that are being proactive, but don't let's delude ourselves that what we say, think or do is of any great importance to those in the higher management. All they do is play on your emotional connection to get money out of you. None of this is the fault of the guys that sing, the casual observers or the incredibly annoying arm folding middle aged blokes that treat their curved piece of fading blue plastic as their kingdom, or any other subset of fans we have. 

 

Don't blame one another, it's those with 'control' of all the money that are to blame. 

Totally agree with this. For me, one of the worst aspects of Foxestalk this season, has been the mutual abuse and contempt shown to fellow fans by those who support the team differently to others. We all presumably share the same wishes for our club but that has been lost in the constant griping at each other. Just accept that we show our support in different ways but the hope and wishes are the same.

[pmcla26]

I’m confused as to why some people are all for Rohl and totally against Martin when one has a promotion from the Championship on their CV and the other one doesn’t. 

[Paninistickers]

7 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

The average fan is as tactically astute, about their own team at least, as most managers are.

I posted something similar earlier in season that Ben Dawson and the Dutchman have kinda proved that lots of professional managers rely  on smoke, mirrors Wizard of Oz stuff. For that nine game home run, it is factually correct to say a fan could not have done worse. 

 

 

If you listen to players and managers, retired and current, on local radio, national TV or on podcasts, nothing they say mid game is much different to a punter. Move it quicker, too slow in transition, passing is way off, want it more etc etc

 

 

[Unabomber]

1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

I’m confused as to why some people are all for Rohl and totally against Martin when one has a promotion from the Championship on their CV and the other one doesn’t. 

I would say a lot comes from personality. Martin is like a Rodgers. With Brendan everyone could see how bad it was going etc but he said the right thing etc. We need a complete change not another charlatan