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28 minutes ago, Lutterworth Fox said:

Think you'll be sadly disappointed if you think we'll win week after week in the championship next season.

We'll win more than we lose, even if some of the bigger names leave. However, apart from Hermanson and maybe Soumare and Okoli, on this year's showing we may be stuck with a lot of the rest. We lost all our top players when relegated last time and still won the league, winning most games with a weaker team.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

I’ve said it countless times…..we have one of the most unprofessional (We miss you Enzo) and unlikeable group of players that I can ever remember.

 

I’ve got to the point that I couldn’t care who our manager is, as this set of players appear to pick and choose when they make much of an effort on the pitch.

 

Ruud though needs to not be another manager that came in saying all the right things, I strongly remember him saying he’s not set on playing a certain way yet has done exactly that or can see us rolling the dice one more time with 6/7 games to if still only a few points adrift.

I've always found it really difficult to say, but you'll see the club change exponentially when JV leaves. 

 

He's a legend, our greatest, but he is the last remaining player with ultimate power and a direct line to Top.

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1 hour ago, AjcW said:

I've always found it really difficult to say, but you'll see the club change exponentially when JV leaves. 

 

He's a legend, our greatest, but he is the last remaining player with ultimate power and a direct line to Top.

It’s a horrible thing to say out loud as he’s clearly our GOAT but you’re probably right.

 

My only worry is that Top will be all chummy with the Coady’s of the worlds too! 
 

Top’s a poster child of the nepo baby examples you see all over social media.

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On 08/02/2025 at 18:43, HarryDee8 said:

If he plays vestergaard and faes as a CB pair again,  he's officially an idiot

I think we've gone past that haven't we lol Vestergaard should be nowhere near the team yet Van Nistelrooy picks him every week, I have this horrible feeling he thinks Vestergaard is our best defender.

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We sacked an experienced manager who could well of kept us up and replaced him with someone with no experience, not sure what people expect as the players are no where good enough and needed an experienced coach. once we had got Cooper we should of stuck with him, he had us exactly where he must of been told the aim was.

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1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

It’s a horrible thing to say out loud as he’s clearly our GOAT but you’re probably right.

 

My only worry is that Top will be all chummy with the Coady’s of the worlds too! 
 

Top’s a poster child of the nepo baby examples you see all over social media.

It goes beyond JV though, his agent John Morris had been our defacto DOF until the maresca situation this summer. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, AjcW said:

I've always found it really difficult to say, but you'll see the club change exponentially when JV leaves. 

 

He's a legend, our greatest, but he is the last remaining player with ultimate power and a direct line to Top.

I think this will probably be his last season if we stay up (unlikely) and penultimate season if we go down.

 

Posted
5 hours ago, MGLCFC said:

We'll win more than we lose, even if some of the bigger names leave. However, apart from Hermanson and maybe Soumare and Okoli, on this year's showing we may be stuck with a lot of the rest. We lost all our top players when relegated last time and still won the league, winning most games with a weaker team.

wont we only have daka as our striker next season? he's proved he cant cut it at even that level, and he's quite injury prone.

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5 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

I’ve said it countless times…..we have one of the most unprofessional (We miss you Enzo) and unlikeable group of players that I can ever remember.

 

I’ve got to the point that I couldn’t care who our manager is, as this set of players appear to pick and choose when they make much of an effort on the pitch.

 

Ruud though needs to not be another manager that came in saying all the right things, I strongly remember him saying he’s not set on playing a certain way yet has done exactly that or can see us rolling the dice one more time with 6/7 games to if still only a few points adrift.

Ruud may have said a lot when he came in. But he see's this pile of sh1t we have every day in training.

 

I would say he's playing what he sees as the best way for them. I'm not saying he's fit for the job long term.

 

But I do think it's a bit harsh judging him atm. He's inherited a pile of sh1t and the clubs done nothing to change that in January.

 

None of this shit show is his fault.

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14 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

wont we only have daka as our striker next season? he's proved he cant cut it at even that level, and he's quite injury prone.

Presumably we'll buy at least one striker in the summer, if not two.

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5 hours ago, AjcW said:

I've always found it really difficult to say, but you'll see the club change exponentially when JV leaves. 

 

He's a legend, our greatest, but he is the last remaining player with ultimate power and a direct line to Top.

Couple of others rumoured to have worked themselves a line 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Ruud's suitability for the job is definitely a matter for debate, but I'm less convinced that the decision to sack Cooper is. The football was terrible, he'd lost the dressing room and the performances and results were getting worse. He was the wrong pick from the start and once you realise that, it's better to act sooner rather than later.

No matter what happens, our relegation is down to cooper. His transfer needs have absolutely hamstrung the club. The squad is not premier league standard and short of other clubs failing badly, there is no chance for us. Footballs a funny old game but we would need more than an ounce of luck to pull this off 

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4 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

Ruud's suitability for the job is definitely a matter for debate, but I'm less convinced that the decision to sack Cooper is. The football was terrible, he'd lost the dressing room and the performances and results were getting worse. He was the wrong pick from the start and once you realise that, it's better to act sooner rather than later.

But not with someone with no experience

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4 hours ago, Claridge said:

We sacked an experienced manager who could well of kept us up and replaced him with someone with no experience, not sure what people expect as the players are no where good enough and needed an experienced coach. once we had got Cooper we should of stuck with him, he had us exactly where he must of been told the aim was.

I think people get mislead with Cooper being experienced like some old head. He was only 44 last June when he took us over with 5 years approx experience. Ruud is 48 but obviously only 1 full season as manager. Neither the right fit for what we needed with hindsight. 

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19 minutes ago, Gazza M said:

I think people get mislead with Cooper being experienced like some old head. He was only 44 last June when he took us over with 5 years approx experience. Ruud is 48 but obviously only 1 full season as manager. Neither the right fit for what we needed with hindsight. 

Cooper got more points out of these players, Yes he wasn't right but he was miles better than Ruud

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1 minute ago, Claridge said:

Cooper got more points out of these players, Yes he wasn't right but he was miles better than Ruud

3 more points from the same number of games (unless Ruud somehow beats arsenal).

Literally the only difference between them is a win against Brussel Martins Southampton , who are on course to be the worst Premier League team of all time.

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13 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Cooper got more points out of these players, Yes he wasn't right but he was miles better than Ruud

oh dear

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

3 more points from the same number of games (unless Ruud somehow beats arsenal).

Literally the only difference between them is a win against Brussel Martins Southampton , who are on course to be the worst Premier League team of all time.

Cooper also had Hermansen, Ricardo, Ndidi and Fatawu available as well for a lot of his games. I don’t rate Ruud but he’s clearly operating with a much weaker squad than Cooper and is only doing marginally worse.

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24 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

3 more points from the same number of games (unless Ruud somehow beats arsenal).

Literally the only difference between them is a win against Brussel Martins Southampton , who are on course to be the worst Premier League team of all time.

Ruud’s results have also almost certainly been skewed to the downside by the absence of Hermansen and Ndidi for most of the time he’s been with us. I’m still not convinced by RvN, but he gives the impression of having a much clearer vision of what he wants, and of demanding higher standards, than Cooper ever did. As such I think he’s at least as good a manager as Cooper and has the potential to be a much better one. The problem is that we don’t have the luxury of allowing him time to fulfill that potential - it needs to happen now.

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Posted
2 hours ago, sylofox said:

 

None of this shit show is his fault.

Hmmm, sorry I don’t agree,

what about the lack of coaching team brought with him?

Appointing an assistant manager after a month.

 

“Ruud van Nistelrooy’s right-hand man Jelle ten Rouwelaar has been hailed as an innovator who is reinventing goalkeeper coaching”

 

Danny Ward cmon down,

despite what was commonly known and the above first team coach in place.

 

Weird substitutions, falling out with some of the younger players that were brought in to assist the “shit squad”

 

Let’s be honest, January transfers for Rodgers made zero

difference.

Our summer recruitment was also a shambles the chances of RVN getting successful players in if we tried are pretty remote when it takes about 7 attempts to get one good player.

 

In BR last season the struggles with the Transfers & Rudkin were well documented, if RVN and his agent looked at our squad and foresaw this as a huge problem and were a part of the negotiations of taking the job, he should’ve had something in his contract that allowed him to walk away with with full pay if those stipulations/guarantees were not met. 
 

I’m certainly not going to give him a pass at this stage for one of the worse starts of any Prem manager and doing worse than his predecessor that was sacked.

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