Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[ealingfox]

2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Im not saying that but what I am saying is that they generate more interest, no one is interested in watching Brentford vs Bournemouth, its not really a spectacle. Maybe it becomes one one day. 

 

What the Premier League is doing with PSR is basically fixing the league with these teams in it, they will never ever go down if the current structure remains. 

 

They originally got there under the merits of the pyramid system which is fair enough, they are kept there by Sky Sports money.  The league is really broken. 

 

I don't think there is an opportunity for this kind of thing to happen again under the current structure. 

 

I would be immensely surprised if Leeds stay up or if we ever do again under the current set up. Obviously a lot of this is due to our own inept management as we should have been part of this closed shop. 

 

We spent more than at least one of the 17 clubs on transfers and wages this season and we will have a higher turnover than some of them this season.

 

The idea we can't possibly compete with them because of inequality of resources is nonsense!

[justfoxes]

That bloke is waiting to be sacked to get a decent payday so not only has he got us relegated he has no morals by walking away, the SHCITT head just wants to not only relegate us but the indignity of pulling Down Tops trousers not only rodgering him and the club and fans but taking a few million Quid out of his Bank account for the privilege of doing so the FUCHING charlatan!!

[Blue-fox]

10 minutes ago, justfoxes said:

That bloke is waiting to be sacked to get a decent payday so not only has he got us relegated he has no morals by walking away, the SHCITT head just wants to not only relegate us but the indignity of pulling Down Tops trousers not only rodgering him and the club and fans but taking a few million Quid out of his Bank account for the privilege of doing so the FUCHING charlatan!!

Alternatively, he was lied to on employment by being promised funds in January. Didn’t get the backing so feels aggrieved so thinks FU to the board. 

[ramboacdc]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/leicester-new-manager-shortlist-van-nistelrooy-future-b2737452.html?utm_source=livescore&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=foryou

 

Ruud van Nistelrooy will meet with Leicester City bosses for discussions over his future this week, though it is understood that the club’s hierarchy have drawn up a list of possible replacements for the Dutchman.

 

Leicester were relegated last weekend after their 1-0 loss to Liverpool, with the Foxes having suffered 16 defeats across 20 league games since Van Nistelrooy was appointed manager in late November 2024.

 

And the dire situation at the club has forced bosses to compile a list of potential replacements for Van Nistelrooy, with Sky Sports reporting that former interim England manager Lee Carsley is a possible candidate alongside Danny Rohl and former Southampton boss Russell Martin.

 

It is believed that Van Nistelrooy will likely remain in charge until the end of the season, though there are doubts as to whether either side wants to continue after the end of the season.

 

In addition, any pay-off made to the 48-year-old in the event of his sacking could cause Leicester difficulty in meeting their PSR obligations for the current financial year, with the club having sacked Steve Cooper and his staff in November. At the same time, it is believed that the Dutchman is reluctant to walk away from the club having signed a deal that runs until 2027.

 

Reflecting on the season, Jamie Vardy has labelled the situation a “total embarrassment”, with Leicester having lost 12 of their last 14 matches in all competitions. The loss to the Reds also meant that Leicester became the first team in top-flight history to go nine consecutive home league games without scoring.

 

 

“No words I have can ever express my feelings of anger and sadness with the way this season has gone. There are no excuses,” said Vardy, "Collectively, as players and as a club, we failed. There is simply no hiding, and I refuse to entertain any suggestion of doing so.

"Having been at this club for so long, we've experienced so many highs and successes, and this season has been nothing but miserable, and for me personally, a total embarrassment. It hurts, and I know you're feeling it too.

“To the fans: I'm sorry.”

[StevieH]

RVN clearly trying to manoeuvre things so he is sacked before the end of the season as payout will be more. I reckon he will go at the end of the season so as to cost the club less. Hence the phrase he was using about wasting time if decision not made until the end of the season. Bit of a cheap shot if you ask me. Get rid at end of season but start to tap up potential managers before.

[Dan]

3 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

It's absolutely sickening and when you think we've hit rock bottom, Top and his board of clowns manage somehow continue to make things worse. If our club was a dog, it would have been put down years ago! 

People are probably only pointing out the League One once point because the "once" is soon to be redundant. This crook could take us from arguably our strongest ever position to our weakest.

[RedSoxUK]

He should have been on gardening leave immediately, what are we doing...

[1972 Fox]

He's been an absolute disaster of an appointment as most of you on here agree and he absolutely must be shown the door.

 

But the clowns 🤡 running the club remain in place and will continue to be so. Their remit will include selecting the new manager. Combine this with the poor quality of what will remain of our playing squad and it doesn't bode well for next season IMO.

[Skidmark]

I think the decision not to put a break clause in the contract speaks volumes. With the club staring down the barrel of relegation, I think it shows that he was seen as a long term appointment.

 

He's here for the foreseeable. 

[RedSoxUK]

2 minutes ago, Skidmark said:

I think the decision not to put a break clause in the contract speaks volumes. With the club staring down the barrel of relegation, I think it shows that he was seen as a long term appointment.

 

He's here for the foreseeable. 

Volumes at how shit Jon Rudkin is at his job yes.

[sm1]

From the article it looks like we cant sack him because the compensation will make us fail PSR. Probably have to wait until the  end of June or whenever the new accounts start from.

[Lambert09]

3 hours ago, ealingfox said:

 

We spent more than at least one of the 17 clubs on transfers and wages this season and we will have a higher turnover than some of them this season.

 

The idea we can't possibly compete with them because of inequality of resources is nonsense!

Thank you!  It’s not a closed shop, we just made a terrible fist of it, as did others. 
 

If you spend the amount of money a club like Ipswich did, you should have a chance. You just need to get it right. 
 

I still believe without a looming PSR issue hanging over us, and with a competent DOF / recruitment team we would have had a good chance to survive.  Our situation was not normal and I won’t be at all surprised if Leeds with the red bull backing make some big signings and compete well. 
 

last season the clubs were tiny and not really in a position to compete. This year you had 2 complete shambles and one club who were more focused on building something  for their future rather than for now.  All this crying about it not being possible is nonsense.  The only real difference is that this year most of the clubs were run pretty well and the only real basket cases were spurs and Man United, who are lucky enough to have enough quality to stay out of real relegation trouble. 
 

Edited 22 April by Lambert09

[Finn Claw II]

Surely any payout steps down if we are relegated.  At the very least his wages as with players presumably fall once we are in the Championship so buying out his contract is reduced.

 

if not Call RVNs bluff,  if he won’t walk then set the target for next season as one of rebuild. promise him no transfer budget with decent fees accepted for any player. Only loans in.

 

it also has the added benefit of not giving Rudkin money to waste.  
 

 

 

 

[inckley fox]

14 minutes ago, Finn Claw II said:

Surely any payout steps down if we are relegated.  At the very least his wages as with players presumably fall once we are in the Championship so buying out his contract is reduced.

 

if not Call RVNs bluff,  if he won’t walk then set the target for next season as one of rebuild. promise him no transfer budget with decent fees accepted for any player. Only loans in.

 

it also has the added benefit of not giving Rudkin money to waste.  

I know the board don't care a great deal about public opinion, and I appreciate what you're saying about a new influx of Glover-scouted players not necessarily being a good thing - but I think even our fans might grumble if they adopted a 'sell everyone / buy no-one / persist with Ruud' policy.

[funkyrobot]

1 hour ago, sm1 said:

From the article it looks like we cant sack him because the compensation will make us fail PSR. Probably have to wait until the  end of June or whenever the new accounts start from.

Im not sure why the club would be so scared of a PSR fail when considered versus sacking RVN. Keeping him in his position will cost the club more points than any realistic point deduction. 

[kingpower]

1 hour ago, sm1 said:

From the article it looks like we cant sack him because the compensation will make us fail PSR. Probably have to wait until the  end of June or whenever the new accounts start from.

Or just do what any normal club would do and mutually agree an immediate termination of contract with the payout coming either in stages or in the next round of accounts. Just put the poor bloke out of his misery FFS

[ACF]

10 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

A delayed pay out is still a pay out - we'd just be pushing it into the next spending period, where money will likely be very tight again. If he resigned we wouldn't have to pay him anything. 

 

I've no idea what's happening behind the scenes, but RVN has been hinting for weeks that he's getting frustrated with the owners because they haven't sat down with him to discuss next season. It just sounds a bit like when somebody wants to end a relationship but doesn't have the stomach for the break-up conversation, so starts acting all distant and doesn't return calls etc in the hope that the other person will get fed up and do the dumping. 

You’re right, it does push it into a period where it’s tight. It’s also tight now, because we’ve already sacked a manager who made some absolute dross signings. Pushing it out may be the only way to manage it, without significant income coming in. That’s why the club are hoping he’ll walk away.

 

By the way, not a single one of us would leave a job, where your bosses have lied to you, want you gone, and there’s a few million quid on the table if you’re sacked, UNLESS we had something lined up. 
 

[ACF]

39 minutes ago, kingpower said:

Or just do what any normal club would do and mutually agree an immediate termination of contract with the payout coming either in stages or in the next round of accounts. Just put the poor bloke out of his misery FFS

You can’t say mutually agree and suggest something he might not agree to. 
 

He might be forcing the issue over an NDA so he can be a pundit and talk about it openly, he might be forcing the issue of wanting his cash upfront, he might be forcing his contract to the letter because of how he’s been lied to by the board.

 

Gardening leave gets him out the way, formally sack him when it’s suitable accounting wise (ie we make player sales that puts us well over the top of PSR or next period)

[lcfcbluearmy]

People keep saying about gardening leave but unless it was specified in his contract when he signed or he resigns and has a notice period this is not possible. 

 

You can't just put someone onto gardening leave that would effectively be seeing as constructive dismissmissal and is illegal and would lead to him getting a big payout at a tribunal

Edited 22 April by lcfcbluearmy

[Bluearmyfox28]

15 hours ago, AjcW said:

I'm leaning towards it being an accounting period thing now.

 

But that's a dangerous game, there's potential players will already be back for pre season by July 1st.

 

Not to mention the fact the transfer window will have been open 3 weeks.

 

Surely not?

For me this is 100% the case. The question I want to know is, can you sack a manager on the agreement that they are not paid off until July 1st allowing you to get a new manager in? 

[SafewayFox]

12 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

None of those clubs had been spending any where near the amount of money we were (within the rules) to challenge at the top of the league at the time the rules changed. That’s why they’re always compliant. 

Agree with what you’re saying but those clubs also don’t do bonkers business like us.

 

Imagine offering Jannik a new contract,  when proven for 2/3 of his time here that he’s not up to the standard (in the league we’re aspiring to be at) until he’s 35.

 

Edouard is another example of business those clubs just don’t do as they have an actual business model/transfer strategy, rather than just panic buying.

 

[ACF]

3 hours ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

People keep saying about gardening leave but unless it was specified in his contract when he signed or he resigns and has a notice period this is not possible. 

 

You can't just put someone onto gardening leave that would effectively be seeing as constructive dismissmissal and is illegal and would lead to him getting a big payout at a tribunal

I’m using garden leave fairly loosely. 
 

For all intents and purposes, and Ruud would know this, he would be being removed from duty due to poor performance, and to stop further negative business impact. There is absolutely 0 doubt to this and tribunal couldn’t disagree with this.

 

His income is not dependent on him actually managing the games and taking training. He likely won’t be able to achieve bonuses anyway.

 

We tell him to stay away, whilst we finalise negotiations with him and his management. He gets paid the whole time, and we give him his payout when suitable. We don’t stop him taking other jobs in the media etc.

 

Yes it’s messy, but is it less messy than him staying in the role right now. It’s messy because of our consistent failures and mismanagement.

[jayfox26]

Seeing as its mainly Tops fault for the absolute state we are in, could he not just give RVN money out of his own pocket to resign? 

[Sly]

32 minutes ago, ACF said:

I’m using garden leave fairly loosely. 
 

For all intents and purposes, and Ruud would know this, he would be being removed from duty due to poor performance, and to stop further negative business impact. There is absolutely 0 doubt to this and tribunal couldn’t disagree with this.

 

His income is not dependent on him actually managing the games and taking training. He likely won’t be able to achieve bonuses anyway.

 

We tell him to stay away, whilst we finalise negotiations with him and his management. He gets paid the whole time, and we give him his payout when suitable. We don’t stop him taking other jobs in the media etc.

 

Yes it’s messy, but is it less messy than him staying in the role right now. It’s messy because of our consistent failures and mismanagement.

In reality, isn’t this what Potter did with Chelsea? Hence why he took so long out to find the right job? 

[Jazzy_Jeff]