King Power Out

[LCFCJohn]

4 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

We were spending the most in the Championship by a mile to give Pearson the team he wanted. Lets not try and rewrite history and pretend Vichai didnt do his bit. Plus all the money he gave to Leicester hospitals. He was a good man for the city as a whole. Just unfortunatley his son is a clown and destroying the King Power legacy.

Pearson didn’t need loads on money to spend. Him having to unpick the crap that KP did when they took over delayed the trajectory we were already on based on Pearson’s first tenure. 
 

My biggest issue, looking back as I admit to not seeing it as the time, is the KP narrative that has been cultivated from day one. That is the reason we are where we are now as the amount of people who treat Vichai like a god whilst referring to his son tearing it down, aren’t acknowledging the link between the 2. Aiyawatt has been allowed to do this unopposed and applauded along the way because of the status in which people hold KP and Vichai. And this was something that has been happening from the start.

 

So thinks like removing references to the past around the stadium, things like the trophy parade might seem trivial and unimportant. But if they had been treated like any other owner, the fanbase would have had the wherewithal to stand up for the club in recent years.

[Gamble92]

7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Pearson didn’t need loads on money to spend. Him having to unpick the crap that KP did when they took over delayed the trajectory we were already on based on Pearson’s first tenure. 
 

My biggest issue, looking back as I admit to not seeing it as the time, is the KP narrative that has been cultivated from day one. That is the reason we are where we are now as the amount of people who treat Vichai like a god whilst referring to his son tearing it down, aren’t acknowledging the link between the 2. Aiyawatt has been allowed to do this unopposed and applauded along the way because of the status in which people hold KP and Vichai. And this was something that has been happening from the start.

 

So thinks like removing references to the past around the stadium, things like the trophy parade might seem trivial and unimportant. But if they had been treated like any other owner, the fanbase would have had the wherewithal to stand up for the club in recent years.

Has anyone ever done a non sacking like Top did? 

 

Like genuinely we all forget that. He waddled in and sacked our greatest ever manager and had to have his Dad tell him to go home.

 

And we think it was always run well 😭

[SemperEadem]

5 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Unfortunately wouldn't be surprised if some numpty tried to vandalise the Vichai statue if relegation happens..

Just not going to happen. The fanbase that largely sits down mute and can’t muster more than a few hundred to stand up for it. It is proper foxestalk talk to say oh lets flood the ground with Cambodia flags and tear down the statue.

[Mickyblueeyes]

You know what’s crazy. Top is as thick as pig shit and useless. However, Apichet is probably worst. Can you imagine how much of waste he is. Eldest son but deemed so stupid he has to report into his younger brother who is an imbecile. More like Apishit you know what I mean
 

Poor Vichai, left with dumb and dumber to pick it up after him. 

[Chrysalis]

Just now, SemperEadem said:

Just not going to happen. The fanbase that largely sits down mute and can’t muster more than a few hundred to stand up for it. It is proper foxestalk talk to say oh lets flood the ground with Cambodia flags and tear down the statue.

Yet the KPFC mob had enough about them to physically threaten people holding a KP out banner?

[LVFox]

11 hours ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

So my ‘source’ works in event management, I don’t think he works directly for oakview but he’s been working at the club for a year or so. At the start of the season the club told them in other words probably but to spare no expense in regards to hospitality and according to him it’s one of the biggest contracts they have, all was relatively fine until the last 6 weeks where they’ve had to chase payment and they got told by the club that they couldn’t afford to make a payment but if they would carry on as normal and they’ll try and sort at the end of the season. Apparently there’s been a fair few managers and technicians that have told them they’re not going to work until it’s paid which is a ‘logistical nightmare’. 

Sorry if that is a ramble to read and there’s a lot of holes in it as I know absolutely nothing about hospitality and especially hospitality contracts so I’m trying to remember all the details, all I know for certain is is that they owe 40k. I asked him whether it could just be a cash flow problem and could well be sorted at the end of the season but he said this has only happened to him twice and one was Preston and Bolton and neither ended up paying 

 

Zero reason to doubt this, and if true, throws a Cashflow situation into question that only makes it a short hop to unpaid wages, further points deductions and Sheff Wednesday administration situation within the next 6 months

[Brizzle Fox]

7 hours ago, AjcW said:

Mccarron seems a big fan, Lee has had his PR doing the rounds in the English press lauding the job he’s done over there. League One would be an achievable re-entry point for him. 
 

But yeah it would be ****ing horrific and I’d want to die  

He's always been good at PR tbf to him. Not so good at managing.

 

I'd sooner have his dad as manager tbqh

[LCFCJohn]

1 minute ago, Gamble92 said:

Has anyone ever done a non sacking like Top did? 

 

Like genuinely we all forget that. He waddled in and sacked our greatest ever manager and had to have his Dad tell him to go home.

 

And we think it was always run well 😭

I forgot about that one!

 

There was a lot of debate about which way round it was. I feel given current events, you’d believe it to be the way round you have said. 
 

It does further show that getting promoted was not something KP should be given all this credit for as if that sacking is not reversed, promotion doesn’t happen.

 

It just concerns me that people seem to think everything was absolutely perfect before Aiyawatt when there is evidence to the contrary.

 

It also gets forgotten that we were a bit of a disaster following the title win. Relegation battles the season after, getting rid of Ranieri and Shakey. Puel was unliked. There was 14 seconds late gate in there as well. There were rumblings of discontent with the direction at that point. 
 

If anything, it feels like history was rewritten following the awful events of October 2018. Anything that was beginning to become a concern disappeared and any criticism was no longer allowed….

[Stadt]

Puel was a typically lazy KP appointment. Vichai only ever appointed cheap managers too.

 

In 16 years we’ve recruited two managers that were in job already right? Pearson (barely counts) and Rodgers.

 

Both delivered success so you’d think we’d do it again but no.

Edited 15 April by Stadt

[Katy]

I’ve never felt comfortable with Vichai’s statue being where it is. He has a garden, it belongs in there. He is not Leicester City, he was a Thai business man who bought a football club and tragically died at the site. We have players that are far more deserving of statues at the ground, where are they? People are mixing up emotion and fact. Our history isn’t just the Prem win, it goes back to 1884 not 2010 and the erasure of that pisses me off the most. 
 

Pearson was the architect of our successes since KP took over and that’s the hill I’ll die on. As for doing good in the community, Union FS do a hell of a lot for charities and in the community and they are vilified everywhere they turn - make it make sense! 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

7 hours ago, Manwell Pablo said:

Yeah this attempt at rewriting history is getting very odd Sol tbh. 
 

Does absolutely nothing for the cause either. There’s enough evidence Aiwayatt is an unfit leader without having to track back 10 years and starting to pin Vichai for it for holding onto a trophy a bit longer than some people felt comfortable with. 
 

You’ve questioned my motives before, and seem to have an issue with me for some reason, i deal in pragmatism and realism primarily. The sarcasm and the put downs I aim at people are often ways of shutting down a lack of pragmatism and realism. 
 

I won’t agree with some of the negative comments about him, I do however respect alternative opinions. 
 

That said the past is merely something you learn from in life, mainly not to repeat mistakes. Vichai has been dead for the best part of 10 years, he’s not the problem. In our position the present and the future are far more important. 
 

You, as a poster, are someone I respect that’s why I address you in the manner I do whenever I converse with you, as opposed to they way I address other people I do not which I’m sure you’ve witnessed over the years. 
 

I am getting very concerned a lot of people have moved on from trying to do things to save the club and instead are happy to sit back now and make the most of saying I told you so and are trying to force a false narrative that things were rotten from the core all along. 
 

And as I’ve admitted attempting to moblise our fan base was frustrating and I struggle with king power apologists as much as you you do. However this narrative being pushed feels very much like, reflective arrogance than anything productive. 
 

Lastly, and I will be a bit of twat here,  posts like this can be debunked completely, you’ve been on here for a long time, I’m a professional data analyst and I am more than capable of using this sites filtering features to prove you have been more than pro King Power at parts in the last 10 years, i don’t need to search I remember them, I have used that to point out complete hypocrisy to a few posters before and I’m willing to do it again if this holier than thou act is kept up. 
 

If you are genuinely trying to suggest  anyone should think you or any one else are some kind of genius because of that trophy incident we can go through some of your posts from 2016-2020 and show that’s really not the case. 
 

 

 

Are you calling me a liar Manwell? I said it was weird as **** at the time. 

 

And I know others did because I know them personally, and we said the same at the time.

Edited 15 April by Sol thewall Bamba

[blue army 1988]

I've not been to the ground this season, but do people still sing Vichai had a dream? And still clap when the trophy is lifted and Vichai looks around the ground clapping from that video on the big screens?

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, blue army 1988 said:

I've not been to the ground this season, but do people still sing Vichai had a dream? And still clap when the trophy is lifted and Vichai looks around the ground clapping from that video on the big screens?

Bizarrely they tend to save the clapping for when this useless band of cųnts we employ to play football waddle over after another defeat. Clap like Bonnie Blues cheeks then.

[1884HF]

5 minutes ago, Katy said:

I’ve never felt comfortable with Vichai’s statue being where it is. He has a garden, it belongs in there. He is not Leicester City, he was a Thai business man who bought a football club and tragically died at the site. We have players that are far more deserving of statues at the ground, where are they? People are mixing up emotion and fact. Our history isn’t just the Prem win, it goes back to 1884 not 2010 and the erasure of that pisses me off the most. 
 

Pearson was the architect of our successes since KP took over and that’s the hill I’ll die on. As for doing good in the community, Union FS do a hell of a lot for charities and in the community and they are vilified everywhere they turn - make it make sense! 

Exactly I feel the value and impact of vichai cannot be diminished but to have a statue outside the front just feels a bit much - a memorial garden is enough of a tribute

[1884HF]

3 minutes ago, blue army 1988 said:

I've not been to the ground this season, but do people still sing Vichai had a dream? And still clap when the trophy is lifted and Vichai looks around the ground clapping from that video on the big screens?

People still clap the indoctrination video which strikes me as a bit weird and people do sometimes (rarely now) sing vichai have a dream which feels a little out of touch with the current back to back relegation and dark future we have waiting 

[Katy]

7 minutes ago, blue army 1988 said:

I've not been to the ground this season, but do people still sing Vichai had a dream? And still clap when the trophy is lifted and Vichai looks around the ground clapping from that video on the big screens?

Yeah, the video keeps the disciples compliant with the emotional blackmail footage of Vichai at the end. 
 

I honestly don’t care if that sounds harsh, I’m done with it. I’m so very sorry he died and in the way he did but this is our club and it needs to stop being Vichai Memorial FC now. Enough is enough. 

[LCFCJohn]

19 minutes ago, Katy said:

I’ve never felt comfortable with Vichai’s statue being where it is. He has a garden, it belongs in there. He is not Leicester City, he was a Thai business man who bought a football club and tragically died at the site. We have players that are far more deserving of statues at the ground, where are they? People are mixing up emotion and fact. Our history isn’t just the Prem win, it goes back to 1884 not 2010 and the erasure of that pisses me off the most. 
 

Pearson was the architect of our successes since KP took over and that’s the hill I’ll die on. As for doing good in the community, Union FS do a hell of a lot for charities and in the community and they are vilified everywhere they turn - make it make sense! 

This is a far too logically and sensible post. Ban yourself immediately 

 

I agree with every word.

 

No issue with a statue but it would be far more fitting as part of the memorial garden.

 

I also hate how many of our own fans seem to have accepted the erasure of our history. A proud history dating back 142 years. 
 

I will join you to face fire on the Pearson hill. As I have repeatedly said, the best owners either have a really in depth knowledge of football (Bloom and Benham being 2) or recruit people at club level (DoF etc) to ensure continuity and smooth running of the club. Our owners answer is Jon Rudkin…..The fact is, success has been tied to managers rather than managers being recruited as part of a club strategy and I have seen no argument to the contrary on this. If you look at the large sales that sustained us for years, how many were as a result of Pearson/Walsh or Puel/Macia? No many at all.

 

As for the fact that UFS and the reformed Foxes Trust get the abuse they do, really winds me up. An example was when the Foxes Trust posted about having done a deal with Cavendish bar in Sheffield for fans to get discounted food and drink on Easter Monday, there was one single post complaining it was too far a walk to Hillsborough (ignoring the fact trams leave from outside Cavendish literally every 10 minutes and get to right outside Hillsborough in about 10 minutes). Whereas when they post about the season ticket deadline and challenging the club over this being before fans know which league we will be in, loads of comments abusing them!

Edited 15 April by LCFCJohn

[Number 6]

They're custodians not owners. It's our football club.

[Les-TA-Jon]

47 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I forgot about that one!

 

There was a lot of debate about which way round it was. I feel given current events, you’d believe it to be the way round you have said. 
 

It does further show that getting promoted was not something KP should be given all this credit for as if that sacking is not reversed, promotion doesn’t happen.

 

It just concerns me that people seem to think everything was absolutely perfect before Aiyawatt when there is evidence to the contrary.

 

It also gets forgotten that we were a bit of a disaster following the title win. Relegation battles the season after, getting rid of Ranieri and Shakey. Puel was unliked. There was 14 seconds late gate in there as well. There were rumblings of discontent with the direction at that point. 
 

If anything, it feels like history was rewritten following the awful events of October 2018. Anything that was beginning to become a concern disappeared and any criticism was no longer allowed….

The non-sacking happened in the great escape season.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis said:

Yet the KPFC mob had enough about them to physically threaten people holding a KP out banner?

Because they know the club has their back and there won't be any repercussions. At least two examples of that this season.

[Les-TA-Jon]

48 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It just concerns me that people seem to think everything was absolutely perfect before Aiyawatt when there is evidence to the contrary.

 

It also gets forgotten that we were a bit of a disaster following the title win. Relegation battles the season after, getting rid of Ranieri and Shakey. Puel was unliked. There was 14 seconds late gate in there as well. There were rumblings of discontent with the direction at that point. 
 

If anything, it feels like history was rewritten following the awful events of October 2018. Anything that was beginning to become a concern disappeared and any criticism was no longer allowed….

In general, KP have always been an inconsistent mess - that's been occasionally counter-acted by various managerial appointments

• Pearson - reset culture, squad, sports science, promotion and great escape
• Ranieri - accidentally appointed the man for a perfect storm of positivity
• Puel - rebuild squad for Rodgers
• Rodgers - top manager who could get some good finishes and (somewhat) lucked his way to the FA cup before he could dismantle everything
• Maresca - club's mentality was in the toilet, accidentally found someone with strength of character and philosophy to (temporarily) overturn it  

[Fox92]

44 minutes ago, Katy said:

I’ve never felt comfortable with Vichai’s statue being where it is. He has a garden, it belongs in there. He is not Leicester City, he was a Thai business man who bought a football club and tragically died at the site. We have players that are far more deserving of statues at the ground, where are they? People are mixing up emotion and fact. Our history isn’t just the Prem win, it goes back to 1884 not 2010 and the erasure of that pisses me off the most. 
 

Pearson was the architect of our successes since KP took over and that’s the hill I’ll die on. As for doing good in the community, Union FS do a hell of a lot for charities and in the community and they are vilified everywhere they turn - make it make sense! 

It's the players and managers that you fall in love with not ownership. I've never known a fanbase to be so obsessed, I know Jack Walker has a statue at Blackburn but it's tucked away and not bang the first thing you see as you approach. We've had some great players contribute massively to us, our history, the trophies we've won too. It should be a player or manager there at the front.

Edited 15 April by Fox92

[Fox92]

1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

In general, KP have always been an inconsistent mess - that's been occasionally counter-acted by various managerial appointments

• Pearson - reset culture, squad, sports science, promotion and great escape
• Ranieri - accidentally appointed the man for a perfect storm of positivity
• Puel - rebuild squad for Rodgers
• Rodgers - top manager who could get some good finishes and (somewhat) lucked his way to the FA cup before he could dismantle everything
• Maresca - club's mentality was in the toilet, accidentally found someone with strength of character and philosophy to (temporarily) overturn it  

I know Rodgers is hated but stop putting our FA Cup win down to "luck". Again, we're probably the only fanbase that does this. We all wanted to win the FA Cup and we did it, regardless of how it's won. If it was so easy to win it then any of our previous great managers would have won it.

 

Nobody puts Man City down to "luck" after beating third and fourth division clubs every season to win it.

[Les-TA-Jon]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I know Rodgers is hated but stop putting our FA Cup win down to "luck". Again, we're probably the only fanbase that does this. We all wanted to win the FA Cup and we did it, regardless of how it's won. If it was so easy to win it then any of our previous great managers would have won it.

 

Nobody puts Man City down to "luck" after beating third and fourth division clubs every season to win it.

Somewhat lucky - i.e there was some element of luck to the win. I'm not belittling the win at all. It was fully deserved, a great moment for us and great to finally win it. A worldie goal from Youri worthy of winning any cup. My Dad and Uncle who have been going since the 1960s had seen all the lost finals, the FA cup is a big deal for their generation and sharing that victory with them along with other family - not long after lockdown - is a cherished memory. 

 

There was an element of luck to the run and the final win - is all I'm saying. 

[LCFCJohn]

17 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

The non-sacking happened in the great escape season.

Of course 

 

In m my head, it was that poor run we had the season that ended in the play off defeat to Watford. If I recall, we were in the top 2, I remember losing away at Peterborough in the February time I think and we went on a poor run and recovered at Forest on the last day. I thought it was then so fair enough.

 

So still speaks to the overall picture over the years but obviously not linked to the promotion.