Jeremy Monga

[Ric Flair]

10 hours ago, st albans fox said:

if it’s true then it was put in there to convince him to sign - to ensure the club received a fee, 

if you were his agent, would you have allowed a relegation clause to be inserted ?  If you did then you’d also request a much reduced release clause to compensate. This was a deal that suited both parties. guaranteed Monga £4m over two years and the club a transfer fee. 
 

 

This is where it's balanced because if the pro deal in principle is not legally binding then he'd have had to notify the club he was leaving before end of May and that is in essence a transfer request and the player and agent then waive any loyalty bonus but the fee at tribunal would likely be way less than what we'd be ear marking.

 

I suspect you're right that there'll be some annoying negotiation to reflect what we'd promised as much as the commitment he'd made on this pro deal in principle.

[st albans fox]

24 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

This is where it's balanced because if the pro deal in principle is not legally binding then he'd have had to notify the club he was leaving before end of May and that is in essence a transfer request and the player and agent then waive any loyalty bonus but the fee at tribunal would likely be way less than what we'd be ear marking.

 

I suspect you're right that there'll be some annoying negotiation to reflect what we'd promised as much as the commitment he'd made on this pro deal in principle.

loyalty bonus wouldn’t be of any noteworthy value 

 

I think the scholar-pro contract must have been binding or it wouldn’t be worth signing for either party. Dowman did the same at Arsenal. 
 

as I commented earlier, our current position compromises the fee we can command via salary expectations elsewhere.  If we hadn’t been relegated then we’d be able to argue that we can afford to pay him and he’d have to decide if he was going to chase the money at a club like yanited who do pay that kind of salary to 17 y o. 

 

 

[coolhandfox]

People need to stop jumping at every tweet and post, best to just wait and see.

 

If he stays great, if he goes get a much as possible.

 

[davieG]

Heskey said: "It's very tough for a young kid when clubs like that come calling. As a young player, you always think you're confident enough to deal with anything, but it's not easy.

"He's 17 this summer, so that means he is going to be on a second year scholarship. Really, he should be concentrating on that and getting some actual football under his belt. There's a big conversation about him moving, but he hasn't really played loads of senior minutes yet. You want these young players to play continuous football.

Arsenal are interested in Jeremy Monga this summer. (Image: Stephen White - CameraSport, CameraSport via Getty Images)

"If he goes to United, is he going straight into their first team? If he goes to Arsenal, is he going to play for sure? No. These kids honestly need first team football.

"He is a very, very good player, but he needs to be pushed, he needs to be challenged, and he needs to experience the real pressures of going up against adult professionals week in, week out."

[Ric Flair]

41 minutes ago, davieG said:

Heskey said: "It's very tough for a young kid when clubs like that come calling. As a young player, you always think you're confident enough to deal with anything, but it's not easy.

"He's 17 this summer, so that means he is going to be on a second year scholarship. Really, he should be concentrating on that and getting some actual football under his belt. There's a big conversation about him moving, but he hasn't really played loads of senior minutes yet. You want these young players to play continuous football.

Arsenal are interested in Jeremy Monga this summer. (Image: Stephen White - CameraSport, CameraSport via Getty Images)

"If he goes to United, is he going straight into their first team? If he goes to Arsenal, is he going to play for sure? No. These kids honestly need first team football.

"He is a very, very good player, but he needs to be pushed, he needs to be challenged, and he needs to experience the real pressures of going up against adult professionals week in, week out."

Emile, all your sons are in Manchester City's academy 😂

[Gamble92]

Brentford want him now. 

 

I don't want to sound entitled because it's great that teams like Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton can get to where they are by being run well. 

 

But you can't help but feel like us more than anyone else have a right to feel like we should still be above them in the pecking order. 

[RedSoxUK]

1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

Brentford want him now. 

 

I don't want to sound entitled because it's great that teams like Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton can get to where they are by being run well. 

 

But you can't help but feel like us more than anyone else have a right to feel like we should still be above them in the pecking order. 

Source?

[AlexG]

8 minutes ago, RedSoxUK said:

Source?

Paul Joyce from The Times

 

There is an article on their website put it's behind a paywall

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, RedSoxUK said:

Source?

Leicester Fan Tv

[MPH]

If he wants a regular starting spot in the prem then Brentford are probably a good club for him. Players seem to be able to develop there and they are not afraid to sell someone on for a profit 

[oldbluefox]

I don’t think he’s ready for a starting spot at Championship and above , not yet. You could see last season that defenders had worked him out and coped easily with him. I feel he needs experience at a lower level to hone his skills, work on new ideas and broaden his game. He may be best to remain at City depending on who they bring in or go to a club with a strong reputation for developing youth players. He is certainly not ready for first team football at a higher level and it would be a bad decision to push him on too soon before he is ready. A season in Lge1 may do him good. 

[Analysethis]

I cant see how he will want a regular spot at a prem club, he hardly tore it up for us last season. 

 

Potential, absolutely. However, I can see a prem club buying him for 10-15m from us (on the cheap) and make the decision whether to do what Liverpool did with Nyoni and get him trained with the academy or even loan him out to a Championship club at best.

 

We cant expect to add too much pressure on someone so young. Like all our kids, I wish they somehow end up staying as we have a talented bunch. It`ll be for me one of the biggest kicks in teeth if we have to sell youngsters.

[Samilktray]

Having clubs like Brentford looking to cherry pick your best prospects really is a humbling experience 

[SafewayFox]

1 hour ago, Samilktray said:

Having clubs like Brentford looking to cherry pick your best prospects really is a humbling experience 

The upside of being run properly.

 

We should be humble enough as a club to want to copy their blueprint, yet we never will.

[Tiny earl]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

The upside of being run properly.

 

We should be humble enough as a club to want to copy their blueprint, yet we never will.

We should be progressive enough to IMPROVE on any successful blueprint !

[SafewayFox]

30 minutes ago, Tiny earl said:

We should be progressive enough to IMPROVE on any successful blueprint !

Fair comment but signing players based on data, then selling for profit is a pretty good model.

 

Leicester/Brentford, will never have the revenue outside of transfers to be bigger than that model.

[Foxes96]

[Lambert09]

If part of the deal was that he came back on loan this season, do you think you’d want that? I’d be torn on having him if we’re developing for someone else but obviously if it clicks with him, he’d be a monster in league 1 

[AKCJ]

5 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

If part of the deal was that he came back on loan this season, do you think you’d want that? I’d be torn on having him if we’re developing for someone else but obviously if it clicks with him, he’d be a monster in league 1 

I don't think it suits any party for him to come back for a year.

 

I think Arsenal will want him in their youth set up with occasional first team exposure. Seems a more common method of integrating young players in top teams now. Long gone are the days where teenagers would be sent to the lower leagues to get booted about by men much older.

 

We should just get as much as we can for him and let him go. No point in developing him and we shouldn't be paying money to keep him.

[DezFox]

Clearly loads of people want him, I know we won’t be but we should 

be asking for more and more with loads of future incentives. 10mill seemed to be the original figure quoted and I bet we just say, yeah that will do. 

[Lambert09]

9 minutes ago, DezFox said:

Clearly loads of people want him, I know we won’t be but we should 

be asking for more and more with loads of future incentives. 10mill seemed to be the original figure quoted and I bet we just say, yeah that will do. 

Problem is, if I were to hazard a guess, with a youngster, nobody is in a rush to sign him early in a summer... as hes not likely to play for the first team. Which means all this happening so early, points to the fact that the club are actually trying to get this done before the end of june for psr reasons. Id guess we need this one to be compliant and we will likely accept whatever  fee does that for us. We are so horrid 

[FoxinNotts]

Going to put my cock on the block here, but having watched every minute he's now played for us, I think we should take the £10m offered.

At this moment in time, I think it's a fair deal.

I'm not saying he won't 'make it' or I'm not even saying 'he won't be a superstar', because he might well, but if i was to put a bet on how his career will pan out, I'd suggest he'll probably get a handful of appearances in the cups for Arsenal next year, then he'll go out on loan the following season. That's two make-or-break seasons down the line. I genuinely think there's a long long way to go and many hurdles for him to get over before we as Leicester fans will be saying "we should never have sold him".

 

£10m pure profit is much needed at the moment. Can't underestimate getting cash in to secure early the targets we need for our own re-build.

[ronnup]

Is he quick? Doesn't look it to me

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

If part of the deal was that he came back on loan this season, do you think you’d want that? I’d be torn on having him if we’re developing for someone else but obviously if it clicks with him, he’d be a monster in league 1 

I'd rather give Alves minutes than develop him for someone else.

[FoxinNotts]

13 minutes ago, ronnup said:

Is he quick? Doesn't look it to me

Not really. He's strong on the ball for a 16 year old, and has quick feet.

 

Still can get stronger, obviously, this will come with more 'men's football' and he'll grow bigger and stronger.

 

He has quick feet, and can take a man on, which is rare these days.

 

Genuinely think he had a sliding doors moment away at Forest last season. If he'd had scored the winner there, when he put it over, we'd be demanding £25m for him now!