Jordan Ayew

[sphericalfox]

5 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Really struggle to see what he offers to justify starting a game and even more so, when in latter stages of games and we have the chance to counter and manipulate transitions. Honestly think both him and BDCR had done their jobs by 55 minutes last night and should have been replaced by Mavididi and Monga or McAteer to hit them with pace on the transitions, honestly believe that game was for the taking and we could and would have scored at least one more. 

We weren't even knocking on the door. We had 3 shots on target. For the last 15mins of the game we had no one upfront. 

[davieG]

Just now, BigC said:

Played well in first half but needed shipping off after 60-65 minutes as a few above have said. - I had no preconceived idea of him, he's clearly not a team player when he's on the ball, his head is down and not looking to pass.

 

I think people judge players on their pre-conceived ideas rather than how they actually play in games. Reputation clouds reality.
 

Another example; Daka is a donkey in front of goal but I actually think his all around play is better than Vardy’s atm & probably should play more. Agree thought his all around game was fine just wasn't fed the ball enough to impact the game up front

 

I see people complain about Soumare when he’s the only one with any character on the ball besides Bilal who can progress it up the pitch. If Ndidi stays fit should take the burden off him defensively. Soumare was very poor for most of the game gave the ball away very easily in the first 30mins and looked like he was distracted with his thoughts

 

We’ve got awful options across the park regardless. I think if we somehow stayed up then Ayew has contributed enough big goals and moments. 

 

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 minute ago, sphericalfox said:

We weren't even knocking on the door. We had 3 shots on target. For the last 15mins of the game we had no one upfront. 

Thats what I am saying, had we had some sort of threat in wide areas who could exploit transitions then we could at least have had the chance to hurt them on counter attacks, we never created anything because we were too deep and had no threat out wide as Ayew and BDCR haven’t got that in their armoury. 

[Ian Nacho]

He's far from our biggest problem at the moment. 

[Jimmy]

When Daka went off I don't know why he stayed on the wing with Facundo playing as the nominal striker, Ayew should have gone down the middle

[Soar Fox]

6 hours ago, davieG said:

He gets somethings right but like VAR he's sucks the life out of the game with his desire to hold onto the ball for as long as possible and ultimately losing it - is he trying to go for the Guinness Book of records. 

It’s his weird obsession with trying to win as many free kicks as he can. It was supposed to be one of his strengths “he wins lots of free kicks”

 

That is fine when you’re winning and winding down the clock. But he does when chasing games and just takes the momentum away from us.

[Clever Fox]

45 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

When Daka went off I don't know why he stayed on the wing with Facundo playing as the nominal striker, Ayew should have gone down the middle

Facundo was totally lost when he came on. 

[Fazzer 7]

Just too slow

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

He's far from our biggest problem at the moment. 

Oh he is. His lack of pressing and ability to contribute at closing down the opposition is one of the main reasons we're so easy to play against.

 

People see the defensive issues and presume they start and finish in that area but you defend from the front and he also has zero ability to help out when we're under pressure deep too.

 

Will go down as one of the worst players to play for Leicester in the last decade.

[splinterdream]

got to say, i don't get it. His hold up play, I'm yet to see it with a lay off, always ends in a back pass, if he turns he loses the ball, he can't take dead balls, he can't press, you could play Soumare in his role and i don't think we'd notice a difference, just seems a waste of a place to me

[Chelmofox]

5 hours ago, Jimmy said:

When Daka went off I don't know why he stayed on the wing with Facundo playing as the nominal striker, Ayew should have gone down the middle

Dont understand why we didn't bring Mavididi on actually.

[Nolucklcfc]

5 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

He's far from our biggest problem at the moment. 

Not his biggest fan but seems to be the latest scapegoat 

[dillonpanthers87]

19 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Not his biggest fan but seems to be the latest scapegoat 

Agree. He did pretty well yesterday. Mostly always has energy, carries the ball up the pitch ok. Yes his output isn't of quality, but we know that. We should never have signed him, but he's way ahead of plenty of others in the squad in terms of value for money, this season. 

 

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Oh he is. His lack of pressing and ability to contribute at closing down the opposition is one of the main reasons we're so easy to play against.

 

People see the defensive issues and presume they start and finish in that area but you defend from the front and he also has zero ability to help out when we're under pressure deep too.

 

Will go down as one of the worst players to play for Leicester in the last decade.

"Will go down as one of the worst players to play for Leicester in the last decade." - I think you're forgetting a fair few that would be ahead of him. Not a good signing, but off the cuff I think most of us could name a pretty long list of others that were for one reason or another justifiably worse.

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

Agree. He did pretty well yesterday. Mostly always has energy, carries the ball up the pitch ok. Yes his output isn't of quality, but we know that. We should never have signed him, but he's way ahead of plenty of others in the squad in terms of value for money, this season. 

 

"Will go down as one of the worst players to play for Leicester in the last decade." - I think you're forgetting a fair few that would be ahead of him. Not a good signing, but off the cuff I think most of us could name a pretty long list of others that were for one reason or another justifiably worse.

Go on then... he's definitely in the conversation.

[The Doctor]

6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Go on then... he's definitely in the conversation.

Ward, Tete, Musa for three

[Ric Flair]

Just now, The Doctor said:

Ward, Tete, Musa for three

Ward

Bennett

Wague

Musa 

Ayew

Silva (although he had ability)

Bertrand

Ghezzal

Skipp (hopefully this changes)

[when_you're_smiling]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Oh he is. His lack of pressing and ability to contribute at closing down the opposition is one of the main reasons we're so easy to play against.

 

People see the defensive issues and presume they start and finish in that area but you defend from the front and he also has zero ability to help out when we're under pressure deep too.

 

Will go down as one of the worst players to play for Leicester in the last decade.

Well Vardy can’t and doesn’t press like he used to either so are you taking him out as well? Or are you just laying it on Ayew?

 

If you press up front you have to press as a team. Do we have the players to do that? Probably not, which is probably why RVN has reverted to similar to what Cooper was doing and not press teams as much. You could drop Vardy and have Daka lead a press with quicker wide players, but would we be stronger without Vardy?

[Ric Flair]

6 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Well Vardy can’t and doesn’t press like he used to either so are you taking him out as well? Or are you just laying it on Ayew?

 

If you press up front you have to press as a team. Do we have the players to do that? Probably not, which is probably why RVN has reverted to similar to what Cooper was doing and not press teams as much. You could drop Vardy and have Daka lead a press with quicker wide players, but would we be stronger without Vardy?

Yeah Vardy is becoming a major problem in this regard. It's a huge dilemma but as he's still our best finisher and pretty much has a job for life it's hard to consider not including him. Enzo regularly didn't start him though for this very reason. But if and when he did he still had Mavididi, Fatawu, Ndidi and KDH who as you say press well as a pack (even better with Daka).

 

In the current set up on El Khannouss is a strong presser, Ndidi is now deployed deeper so we simply must either change systems or Ayew and Vardy don't start.

 

I'd personally go 3-4-1-2 with El Khannouss and Daka pressing either side of Vardy or he drops out and El Khannouss and Bounanotte play behind Daka.

 

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Ward

Bennett

Wague

Musa 

Ayew

Silva (although he had ability)

Bertrand

Ghezzal

Skipp (hopefully this changes)

That's missing a few.....

 

Zieler 

Hernandez 

Upson 

 

 

 

 

[Walshy5]

He's just pure and simply useless! Might aswell play with 10 men.

 

 

 

[murphy]

Inler, Vestergaard, slimani, perez, daka, soumare, faes, benkovic, Amartey, mendy and Perez again. 

[murphy]

I'm going ot a bit here, but this thread highlights just how bad our recruitment has been that I Could list two full teams of dud signings made in this PL era, or the last ten years just off the top of my head.  I'm sure there are more:

 

Ward                     zieler

Benalouane.        Bertrand

Faes.                    Vestergaard

Amartey.              Hernandez

Bennett.               Benkovic

Skipp.                    Silva

Inler.                      Soumare 

Musa.                   Ayew

Mendy.                 Perez

Daka                     Slimani

Ghezzal.               Diabate

 

 

 

[Ric Flair]

9 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

That's missing a few.....

 

Zieler 

Hernandez 

Upson 

 

 

 

 

Hernandez wasn't massively poor, he just didn't really feature after a few minthe or settle. Or that was my recollection anyway. 

[SafewayFox]

21 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Hernandez wasn't massively poor, he just didn't really feature after a few minthe or settle. Or that was my recollection anyway. 

Didn’t we sign Hernandez on a Bosman and actually make a small profit? 
 

Something we’re heinous at typically.

[SafewayFox]

The signing of Ayew symbolises us as a club.

 

We had a mid table wage bill even after our relegation and needed to address bringing this down.

 

Yet, what do we do? Over pay for “PL experience”.

 

As others have stated the board or whoever signs off on the above are ultimately the bigger problem.