Ruud out - has to go

[Mickyblueeyes]

5 minutes ago, trooky said:

We've no idea if Coulibaly can defend, I can't imagine if many of us had even heard of him before we signed him. 

 

I agree with your other points, drop Mavididi, play Bilal and Facundo as 2 tens in a 5221 formation. 

 

We looked doomed, the Palace defeat has destroyed what little confidence we have and the players lacked any fight yesterday. 

To be honest, I’d play anyone on the right except Justin. The lazy piece of shit. Yesterday was the last straw. 

[John12345]

Maybe we could play ruud up front with vardy.

 

Appointing rvn was a really big risk and I'd sack him and get in dyche and give him some of the window.

[Ely fox]

It’s coming to that time again when we wheel out Dean Smith and John Terry to see us relegated. 

[FOXSE]

1 hour ago, John rayner said:

We can't just keep sacking managers ,just look at the players ,we need to offload some of the dead wood imo

Honestly, we would literally go through 5 managers a season.

[Nolucklcfc]

I don’t think we can afford to sack another manager 

[Matt]

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I no longer have a manager.

I can't be managed.

 

Yep. That's our players, that's our club.

[Thequickbrownfox]

"I've looked failure in the face - it's not a pretty sight, but as my father used to say "Only a fool doesn't look where he's going.""

 

(Marion and Geoff)

[Royston.]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I don’t think we can afford to sack another manager 

But we can afford to get relegated 

[jv1]

2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I don’t think we can afford to sack another manager 

We can’t afford not to 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I don’t think we can afford to sack another manager 

Can we afford not to? He doesn't seem to know what to do. 

[Dmitry]

Wished him good luck until the last game's substitution, now I'm 100% in the "Has to go NOW" camp. Way over his head, lost, incompetent, worst manager in the PL now.

[The Leicester Badger]

18 hours ago, sylofox said:

Fit we have Vardy 2 keepers and a bunch of gutless cvnts. No one is coming in and keeping us up.

 

The blame is not with Ruud or Cooper. The players need to fvcking man up. Top and his cronies need to fvck right off.

 

We have a pile of shit for a team.

I think you should say what you think, stop Pussy footing around lol!

[l444ry]

Would never have even been considered if not for his half a dozen games at Manchester United. Looks like yet another poor decision from those in charge. We're almost stick on certs to get relegated and can anybody, hand on heart, say that RvN is the guy to rebuild this club on a shoestring? People might not want to hear it but we needed a Moyes or Dyche type appointment and ditch this peculiar fetish of trying to be a  Manchester City tribute act. 

[StevieH]

Just found it odd that RvN had no coaches that came with him. Relying on the existing coaches that were with Cooper. I think he is out of his depth. New coaches and new ideas were required. We've gone backwards. We are stuck with him now as don't believe club can afford to sack him. All in all a massive mess up.

[cityfanlee23]

The thing that is concerning me regarding the fans supporting Ruud on here, it seems the vast majority of the arguments to continue to persevere with him can be summed up with “the squad is bad” “we have injuries” 

 

Absolutely nobody talking about anything positive about his management or the system he is creating. 
 

At some point he has to improve the players we have if we are going to stay up. Doesn’t seem like fans have any real reasons for keeping him, just excuses (legitimate points) as to why it’s not his fault. 
 

We KNOW the squad is bad, we KNOW the board is awful, what is Ruud doing though? What is he doing that shows you we can afford to go down knowing he will bring us back up? 
 

 

Edited 19 January by cityfanlee23

[OntarioFox]

3 hours ago, John12345 said:

Maybe we could play ruud up front with vardy.

 

Appointing rvn was a really big risk and I'd sack him and get in dyche and give him some of the window.

We could do it today and Rudkin would still fail to get anything over the line before deadline day. It took us 16 days to sign Coulibaly and even then the moron lost his paperwork down the back of the sofa and he couldn't feature yesterday.

 

That boat has sailed, I'll be amazed if Ruud's able to get anyone in, let alone an incoming manager.

[murphy]

6 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

The thing that is concerning me regarding the fans supporting Ruud on here, it seems the vast majority of the arguments to continue to persevere with him can be summed up with “the squad is bad” “we have injuries” 

 

Absolutely nobody talking about anything positive about his management or the system he is creating. 
 

At some point he has to improve the players we have if we are going to stay up. Doesn’t seem like fans have any real reasons for keeping him, just excuses (legitimate points) as to why it’s not his fault. 
 

We KNOW the squad is bad, we KNOW the board is awful, what is Ruud doing though? What is he doing that shows you we can afford to go down knowing he will bring us back up? 
 

 

I think the point is that because the squad isn't good enough another change of manager is not going to fix it.  The sooner we accept that, the less painful this season will be. 

 

Rightly or wrongly we chose RvN from a list that is probably very small as we're not the most attractive proposition in the world.  I don't think Ruud has had enough time to implement his ideas.  This season is a write off.  We might as well stick and see what he can do. 

[Chrysalis]

17 hours ago, J. James said:

I find it awfully strange that many now say its all the owner/DoF/ boards fault, and that no manager could succeed with our rubbish squad.

 

Where were these people when Cooper was doing better than this fool?

 

Some of us said that Cooper was over achieving and were shouted down by the FT mob.

Some said RvN was a ridiculous appointment and were shouted down by the same people.

 

The fact is that some people smell the coffee quickly and others don't, it seems to me that no matter what Cooper did he would have been hated by these same people, who (as one so called fan commented about Dyche coming here) would rather see us relegated than succeed with their object of hate.

I couldnt have said it better myself.

[TrentFox]

2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

I don’t think we can afford to sack another manager 

Can we afford another relegation? 

[Chrysalis]

17 hours ago, filbertway said:

 

Under Cooper, we got battered by Ipswich and Southampton till both of then hit the self destruct button.

 

Bournemouth missed about 3 sitters and Mads made some great saves.

 

We pinched a point v Brighton under Ruud.

 

Not sure what to make of it all to be honest

 

It's bad isn't it

 

Game finishes at 90 + add on time not 60 mins.

I couldnt give a rats ass we have 1% possession, crap passing percentage or whatever, as long as we win the game.
You telling me you prefer us to watch us lose games if it means more attractive football?
Palace e.g. were arguably getting battered by us, until we hit the self destruct and then won, teams can even have this as their game plan.

[Nolucklcfc]

1 minute ago, TrentFox said:

Can we afford another relegation? 

Realistically does any manager now keep us up? 

[adejo92]

 

It takes a certain type of manager to get a squad as bad as ours to perform well enough to scrape points.

 

#Dyche.

 

Some of RVN decisions are ludicrous,  he's as much to blame as the players, but no more so. 

 

I also don't think for one minute that Cooper loses at home to Wolves, Palace & Fulham, however had you think his football is or however 'lucky' you  think he was.

[grth2004]

[Lutterworth Fox]

Ruud will walk before the Everton game, you heard it here first. He's another Lampard, Neville or Rooney, not manager material. There's not a manager in the world that can keep this shower of shite up.

[Chelmofox]

4 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

The thing that is concerning me regarding the fans supporting Ruud on here, it seems the vast majority of the arguments to continue to persevere with him can be summed up with “the squad is bad” “we have injuries” 

 

Absolutely nobody talking about anything positive about his management or the system he is creating. 
 

At some point he has to improve the players we have if we are going to stay up. Doesn’t seem like fans have any real reasons for keeping him, just excuses (legitimate points) as to why it’s not his fault. 
 

We KNOW the squad is bad, we KNOW the board is awful, what is Ruud doing though? What is he doing that shows you we can afford to go down knowing he will bring us back up? 

I'm going to put my hand up here and open myself up to ridicule, but before i do, this is just my opinion based on what I see and how i read the stats. 

 

I think the overall play has been better under Ruud. I also think it's taken some bottle for him to try and create that identity mid season, especially when there have been some key injuries during a very busy winter period.  The situation around goalkeepers is something i wouldn't have wished on any incoming manager. I felt we outplayed Palace in the 1st half and they didn't 'batter' us in the 2nd, and if you look at the stats for the Fulham game, we did a very good job on containing them in the 1st half whilst having some good chances ourselves.  The stats show me Fulham had 0 big chances in the 1st half and we had 2 shots on target - work has clearly been done here.  I felt we gave a very good account of ourselves against Man City and Liverpool.  He's also got the best out of BEK and realised that Facundo is a bit of a liability when he gives the ball away all the time.  If Ruud had been given pre season and the summer transfer window, I would put money on us playing ok and the fans not panicking.

 

But football is a results oriented business, and he has come into a team that clearly has issues from board level done to the squad.  I'm convinced Ruud isn't the reason why Vardy started 3 games in 1 week, and i'm also convinced that in the last week or so the realisation about what we can actually do in the transfer has really hit home. Maybe an experienced 'bastard' coming in was the answer.

 

The biggest problem with have now is the part of our game that was getting Cooper out of jail has deserted us. I think most of us looked at the first half of the season and felt it wasn't sustainable for us to be as clinical as we were. We are now creating more chances but not converting anything, we don't have Mads getting us out of jail.