New Ownership

[Dickov_Nige_Vards]

2 hours ago, adejo92 said:

Really can't decide how i feel about Top. I always feel bad wishing him out of the club, but that's more from what his dad did for us.

 

I know it all comes down to Top, because he continues to employ Rudkin, but is the general consensus that people would be happy with Top so long as he got rid of Rudkin? 

 

I feel a bit for Top that he is so badly advised by those around him.

Not for me - you could permit a grace period and a transparency with the fans in the early post Vichai (and wow do we miss him even more than we thought possible) in terms of "I'm learning too but I'm with you" - the fact he's overseen such failure after failure, while showing the arrogance and attitude to the fans. I don't want him in our stadium or near our club. Rudkin is obviously a huge problem - but who is the guy signing off on the next DOF? Fk him off.

[CosbehFox]

4 hours ago, westernpark said:

I left the stadium at full time. These stewards had to walk with this car, presume ownership or Rudkin, to Upperton Road. 

Yep downright dangerous and the stewards have no place working outside of their workplace  

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Just seen this

 

[CosbehFox]

2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I don't think Top is a bad person, naive maybe.

 

Millionaires aren't going to be 'normal folk. I think our fans are in cloud cuckoo land if they thing a Millionaire is going to come in and run the club for our benefit in a caring sharing way!

 

I think a lot of our fans have some mystical delusion of Vichai, he put all these people in position, the structure in place, KP have always operated in a bizarre way. 

 

I do think Top needs better guidance, he pays people to do a job, and I think due to the tragedy he is too emotionally connected to people his father selected and trusted to fire them, I'm not really sure on the answer as they have to go. 

See I do. His needless use of Thai influencers, hosting of politicians and need to be at the centre of trophy celebrations etc tells

me it’s far more egotistical than a lot let themselves on for 

[Bluearmyfox28]

5 hours ago, bosnianfox1884 said:

I saw someone mention a couple of times that Top is looking for a potential buyer for the club. Not sure if that's true.

I mentioned it around a month or two ago, a lot of rumours regarding Top looking to sell came from someone who has a lot of business dealings with the club.

 

Further context to this…. Relegation reduced the value on the club which put Top off even listening to offers. 

Edited 19 January by Bluearmyfox28

[Bluearmyfox28]

People forget we are a one club city too. In the UK it’s not really spoke about much but from an investors perspective it’s a very attractive proposition.

 

Only 6 teams in the premier league are single club cities… Us, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Brighton, Wolverhampton and Southampton. 

[Vindaloo FOX]

King Power will be stubborn, don't see them selling us anytime soon.

Edited 19 January by Vindaloo FOX

[foxy boxing]

8 hours ago, Blue-fox said:

Let’s get Elon in

Imagine if we got Musk to make Leicester great again and then he wanted to buy Foxestalk to bring back free speech!  or to stop the fans criticising him!. He could give away free teslas and offer trips to the moon with spacex

[iancognito]

It would be a huge loss of face for him to sell up. No-one knows the figures and exposure KP gets from having this club in the Prem and for him to break ties with that after hundreds of millions spent would be incredibly embarrassing. The links to his Dad's death must also be a huge emotional pull. So replacing the DoF and a few accountable directors to get this club - root and branch - back into the black and doing clever transfer and contract deals again must surely be easier than cutting ties and selling up?

[MattFox]

12 hours ago, westernpark said:

I left the stadium at full time. These stewards had to walk with this car, presume ownership or Rudkin, to Upperton Road. 

These stewards have absolutely no jurisdiction whatsoever outside the clubs land

 

If their was a real threat the police would have escorted 

 

This is more KPFC victim mentality in action

[ARTY_FOX]

I wouldn't be against top staying if he actually started to do his job. 

 

Guy trusts all the wrong people 

[Bilo]

5 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Imagine if we got Musk to make Leicester great again and then he wanted to buy Foxestalk to bring back free speech!  or to stop the fans criticising him!. He could give away free teslas and offer trips to the moon with spacex

I'd just call him a nonce every day on every bit of social media I could lay my hands on.

[justfoxes]

13 hours ago, Blue-fox said:

At least the business would be profitable 😂

Plus fan discount on a Tesla 😉

[justfoxes]

13 hours ago, Tuna said:

Bournemouth and thier pokey stadium attracted a consortium of American billionaires, don't be fooled about how attractive a club like ours would be, there would be plenty of good interest.

Especially with our history of the 5000/1 Premier league win, but would Top and the family even contemplate selling up knowing how Vichai loved this club and what his dream has turned into?

[Lionator]

12 hours ago, westernpark said:

I left the stadium at full time. These stewards had to walk with this car, presume ownership or Rudkin, to Upperton Road. 

This image is firstly absolutely mental, and secondly a great metaphor for what this club has become. The physical barrier between the board and the fans, that in no way can supporters communicate with superiors.
 

That stewards are being paid minimum wage and are used as sacrificial lambs to keep the plebs from getting close to the Emperor (like anyone is actually going to attack them, we just want change). It really resembles the last days of Rome. A collapsing empire with nowhere left to turn except within itself. They will become MORE paranoid, MORE aggressive towards supporters, it’ll resemble a full bunker mentality. Prepare for it to get a lot worse before it gets better. Eventually if we build and sustain some pressure, something will give. But for now these spineless cowards are worried and will do everything they can to suppress any discontent. 

[Bilo]

5 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

People forget we are a one club city too. In the UK it’s not really spoke about much but from an investors perspective it’s a very attractive proposition.

 

Only 6 teams in the premier league are single club cities… Us, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Brighton, Wolverhampton and Southampton. 

Yep.

 

Everything we said when we are at our peak still applies. A consistently successful Leicester City could fill a 40-45,000 capacity stadium every week. 

 

I'd go further than a one club city; we're a one club COUNTY. Three quarters of a million people with one club. Southampton have Pompey just down the road, Wolves are surrounded by clubs and Bournemouth is a comparatively tiny place. 

 

Run correctly, we could be a very big football club. Not to mention centrally located and easily accessible to and from London. 

[The Doctor]

28 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I'd just call him a nonce every day on every bit of social media I could lay my hands on.

nah, spell neighbour the British way and get a ban (literally something he's banned people for on Twitter), it's quicker and means you don't have to watch us play anymore.

[CUJimmy]

We are led to believe that Vichai bought the club as a plaything for Top and the success we had must have been beyond their wildest dreams.  They both clearly loved the relationship with the fans, players and staff.  We were widely (and rightly) held up as an example of a well run, family club.

 

 Fast forward to now.  Top is in charge and so clearly out of his depth as Chairman it is embarrassing.  He must know this and can’t be enjoying it very much if at all.

 

Leaving the personalities to one side why does anyone want to own a football club?

 

You aren’t going to make a profit out of it unless you are like the Glazers at Man Utd who could borrow money against the club to pay themselves huge dividends secure in the knowledge that they could sell up and recoup their capita investment.  It’s a Ponzi scheme that will collapse eventually, just like Chelsea who will inevitably run out of things they can sell to themselves.

 

Another reason is sportswashing.  I often wonder how I would react if we were bought by an oil nation or a fabulously wealthy, but seriously flawed, individual like Musk.  I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable with it but would that be enough to keep me away?  I honestly don’t know.

 

A few clubs are owned by individuals who, I suspect are treating them as an investment fattening them up to sell on.  The giveaway here for me is huge increases in ticket prices to maximise match day revenue (Forest, Fulham etc).  Our season tickets are near the bottom of the scale and our match tickets are still only playing catch-up despite the huge rise last year.

 

We don’t really fit in any of those categories.  I am certain KP have benefited from brand exposure and even at the top of the allowable losses under PSR of £35m a year this probably yields a decent return on investment.  We also have Vichai’s legacy - despite his faults Top is a dutiful son and will be desperate to continue his father’s work.

 

So bearing this in mind I don’t think it’s new owners we need but a new Chairman who can build a board around them.  Somebody who really understands football business, with the strength of character to stand up to  the likes of Rudkin and Rodgers who are the real causes of the situation we find ourselves in.  To step aside from this role for Top would be much less of a loss of face than selling up.

[J. James]

14 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

Buying English football clubs seems to be all the rage in Hollywood......Kevin Spacey? 

I can think of at least Seven, maybe an Ordinary Decent Criminal or an American Beauty like Ryan Reynolds?

 

We need someone who can bring down this House of Cards and renew the Contract with the fans to end this Billionaires Boys Club we have at present.

 

And of course we could reach a Verbal agreement with keyzer soze or the Usual Suspects.

 

Done now.. 😐

[dmayne7]

57 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

I wouldn't be against top staying if he actually started to do his job. 

 

Guy trusts all the wrong people 

He's not going to change though is he? Hell continually pick the wrong people and get his priorities wrong. He's out of his depth.

 

Changing Rudkin needs to happen, but only with Top going. It's pointless otherwise because he'll just bring in somebody crap

[MattFox]

34 minutes ago, Bilo said:

Yep.

 

Everything we said when we are at our peak still applies. A consistently successful Leicester City could fill a 40-45,000 capacity stadium every week. 

 

I'd go further than a one club city; we're a one club COUNTY. Three quarters of a million people with one club. Southampton have Pompey just down the road, Wolves are surrounded by clubs and Bournemouth is a comparatively tiny place. 

 

Run correctly, we could be a very big football club. Not to mention centrally located and easily accessible to and from London. 

We’re the biggest one club county population wise in the country.

 

I’d argue we’re the third biggest one club city too behind Leeds and Newcastle 

 

Wolverhampton is significantly smaller as a city than Leicester and as you say Southampton has Pompey down the road and again is a smaller city

 

[CrazyKopCorner]

13 hours ago, westernpark said:

I left the stadium at full time. These stewards had to walk with this car, presume ownership or Rudkin, to Upperton Road. 

Assume that's the Rudkinmobile - Dogshite in the exhaust Vs Arsenal it is then 

[Foxin_Mad]

8 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

See I do. His needless use of Thai influencers, hosting of politicians and need to be at the centre of trophy celebrations etc tells

me it’s far more egotistical than a lot let themselves on for 

It's pretty much the way of the world now, people updating thie social media trying to become rich or showing off. It's always been similar with the Thais though,  under Vichai we had a picture of some king taken round the pitch, just what they do, most rich folk are going to have an ego. 

[ARTY_FOX]

8 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

He's not going to change though is he? Hell continually pick the wrong people and get his priorities wrong. He's out of his depth.

 

Changing Rudkin needs to happen, but only with Top going. It's pointless otherwise because he'll just bring in somebody crap

He might learn though. His dad did, so can only hope really. 

[5waller5]

5 hours ago, CUJimmy said:

 

 I am certain KP have benefited from brand exposure and even at the top of the allowable losses under PSR of £35m a year this probably yields a decent return on investment.  We also have Vichai’s legacy - despite his faults Top is a dutiful son and will be desperate to continue his father’s work.

 

 

I think this highlights how out of touch they are with running a business within a competitive environment.

 

They’re paying £35m for brand exposure for shops at Bangkok airport. How does that ever make sense??? 
 

Paying that money for the visit Thailand campaign I get - the more traffic through the airport the better for the retail monopoly. 
 

But £35m to promote the brand over the door of the shop is not going to result in significantly more packs of £25 dried mango being sold (in Thailand very few people know KP)
 

It’s all about respect / reputation / being seen to be valued Thai royal family friends… and that money may be well spent to keep the monopoly going… but it’s terrible training for how to run a business in an advanced capitalist country