Sly Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 2 hours ago, Super_horns said: Is this basically the same sort of ideas the Tories had but different countries ? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/15/starmer-trip-labelled-an-embarassment-as-albania-rules-out-asylum-seeker-deal Yes 1
urban.spaceman Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 1 hour ago, Super_horns said: Is this basically the same sort of ideas the Tories had but different countries ? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/15/starmer-trip-labelled-an-embarassment-as-albania-rules-out-asylum-seeker-deal Broadly different - the Rwanda Scheme - the Tories claimed - was designed to remove all asylum seekers who arrived by “irregular routes” to Rwanda where their claims would be processed under Rwandan law. Basically no due process, just deported straight to Rwanda and never allowed to return to the UK. Unlawful and had serious human rights concerns given Rwanda’s record. From what I can gather about the Labour proposals, all asylum claims would be processed in the UK, but those whose asylum applications had failed and they’d exhausted all appeal options leaving them with no right to be here would be deported to a ‘return hub’ in participating countries, which complies with UK and international law. 2
Md9 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 51 minutes ago, Lionator said: Hilarious that Starmer and Macron think that Trump is going to do anything meaningful about Russia, when he’s simultaneously rage tweeting about Taylor Swift. Time to put up or shut up. No sanctions are going to work. We tell Ukraine to take a deal or we mobilise our societies and go to war with Russia to save Ukraine. Just seen the tweet about Taylor swift tye man is obsessed with her crazy old turd. he isn’t bothered one bit about Ukraine and would have given them away after that interview with Zelenskyy if he could off he thought that silly interview would work for him but made others get involved and backfired on him and he don’t like it. His little cult go on about him getting a noble peace prize 😂 he doesn’t care about anything that doesn’t benefit him 1
Zear0 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He’s just ****ing nuts isn’t he? 2
Md9 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 20 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: He’s just ****ing nuts isn’t he? 😂😂 just came here to say the same thing just seen this. He isn’t well he is such a baby when something says something about him but then calls every one else names like a 4 year old. Feel sorry for Americans that didn’t vote for this absolute nut job
Md9 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 So all the little maga are losing their mind over this 8647 thing about trump but clearly think it’s ok when it isn’t about their little orange leader . The world is just a pile of s*** at the minute isn’t it
bovril Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 3 minutes ago, Md9 said: So all the little maga are losing their mind over this 8647 thing about trump but clearly think it’s ok when it isn’t about their little orange leader . The world is just a pile of s*** at the minute isn’t it People talk about the 'woke right' which I think is quite a good term for these people. Their performative outrage, targeted at opponents they want to do away with, is very similar to much of the far left they despise.
Md9 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 3 minutes ago, bovril said: People talk about the 'woke right' which I think is quite a good term for these people. Their performative outrage, targeted at opponents they want to do away with, is very similar to much of the far left they despise. They are going all out to try get him arrested for posting it and it’s not even meant to mean what they think it does they are the most vile people going at the minute . All for the law unless trump breaks it then he can do what he wants because he is president 1
leicsmac Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 And the worst thing about it all is that behind all this sensationalist bluster, real, tangible harm is being done to people and to the future itself, in Trump's name and with his approval.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: He’s just ****ing nuts isn’t he? In some ways he's the gift that keeps on giving. But in the way that your Gran would buy you a new video game...
Zear0 Posted 16 May 2025 Posted 16 May 2025 2 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: In some ways he's the gift that keeps on giving. But in the way that your Gran would buy you a new video game... Lee Carvallo’s Putting Challenge? 1 1
FoyleFox Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 18 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: He’s just ****ing nuts isn’t he? You see people posting things like this on SM and just think that they have issues and need help or their Mum needs to change the wifi password. You hope that they are harmless enough or get the help they need. Or, that it's some parody account. The fact that this is the USA President is just frightening. 2
Popular Post leicsmac Posted 17 May 2025 Popular Post Posted 17 May 2025 33 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: You see people posting things like this on SM and just think that they have issues and need help or their Mum needs to change the wifi password. You hope that they are harmless enough or get the help they need. Or, that it's some parody account. The fact that this is the USA President is just frightening. What's more frightening to me is that this man was elected in a democratic system, which shows rather clearly that there is a systemic issue that extends far wider than just Trump and his cabal themselves. 5
foxy boxing Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 20 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: He’s just ****ing nuts isn’t he?s Stupid of Trump having a go at someone who was born in the U.S.A. he's clearly nuts it's like he's dancing in the dark. Plenty of people on the streets of Philadelphia would disagree with him. 1
leicsmac Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq98edegxo I don't blame teachers for quitting or for industrial action one bit, given what they have to deal with every day. 1 1
Sly Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 18 minutes ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq98edegxo I don't blame teachers for quitting or for industrial action one bit, given what they have to deal with every day. Unfortunately we’ve “gone soft”. This would have happened 50 years ago, however it wouldn’t have been repeated.
kenny Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 23 minutes ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq98edegxo I don't blame teachers for quitting or for industrial action one bit, given what they have to deal with every day. An assault in school should be treated as such by the police. There is no profession in the private sector where assaults against staff would be tolerated the way it is against public sector workers. 4
leicsmac Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 5 minutes ago, Sly said: Unfortunately we’ve “gone soft”. This would have happened 50 years ago, however it wouldn’t have been repeated. It's a seriously tricky balance to strike, maintaining control without lurching into unnecessary or even abusive measures. 1
Sly Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 26 minutes ago, leicsmac said: It's a seriously tricky balance to strike, maintaining control without lurching into unnecessary or even abusive measures. Yes, fully agree. It feels a bit free reign at the moment.
davieG Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 When I first started at Lancaster Boys School on Victoria Park it was attrition between the pupils, mostly the top year and the teachers. I saw a lad being hung out of a second story building held only by his ankles. 1st years were regularly tied up to a post or railings with their ties and left there for when the break was over and the school was all lined up. I had my cap and blazer ripped on the first day. New pupils turning up on new bikes saw them chucked onto the prefab roofs. Counter to this I was caned on the first day along with half the school for being late back after lunch as the Deputy Head locked the school gate preventing us from coming in from the park. The cane was a regular feature for even minor wrongs, like whistling in class. I also saw the Deputy Head calling out a couple older lads when lined up for register in the yard and he proceeded to hit them with a big chunk of wood that he said they'd been using on some 1st years. It was no surprise that by reputation was known as a Prep School for Borstal. Hated the first 2 years until we moved to new premises and a new headmaster. It sounds like we've gone full circle but with the teachers having no means of control, that's not a call for allowing caning. PS The Deputy Head was Van Hopkins he of radio Leicester rugby commentator.
Paninistickers Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 3 hours ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgq98edegxo I don't blame teachers for quitting or for industrial action one bit, given what they have to deal with every day. I guess I'm getting old, but teachers seem so young nowadays. They don't seem to command the necessary respect. Most of the teachers in the 1980s were embittered 40, 50, 60 year olds. Half of the useless, but their age at least gave them that bit of authority. The young ones we had were instead seen as a bit of fresh air rather than fair game to assault!
Trav Le Bleu Posted 17 May 2025 Posted 17 May 2025 This whole 8647 thing. I'm guessing that, like me, most people didn't even know about it until Trump blew up about it. As I understand, it was removed from social media fairly promptly. All Mr Trump has achieved is ensuring that many more people know there's an assassination request out for him (if indeed that's what it was - I personally think not). That's a man who likes to live dangerously. He'll be drinking tea with Putin soon.
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