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[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

The age of old men planting trees is well and truly in the rear view mirror. 

 

37 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I've just read the mails article on Leicester, to be fair it's a fair assessment.  I think the multicultural utopia argument is long dead, things ha e definitely changed.

If these are both true, then all we can really do is preserve what we can for the record to ensure that whatever intelligent species succeeds us doesn't repeat our short-sighted and self-interested mistakes.

 

But speaking personally, I'm not giving up just yet.

[Dr The Singh]

34 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

If these are both true, then all we can really do is preserve what we can for the record to ensure that whatever intelligent species succeeds us doesn't repeat our short-sighted and self-interested mistakes.

 

But speaking personally, I'm not giving up just yet.

I think the world is going to its extremes in terms of ideology and identity.  UK is a melting pot of it, I worry for all us 'normos', the language used by the right wing is disturbing for sure, however alot ot Farage's policies i do agree with.

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I think the world is going to its extremes in terms of ideology and identity.  UK is a melting pot of it, I worry for all us 'normos', the language used by the right wing is disturbing for sure, however alot ot Farage's policies i do agree with.

I totally agree that things appear to be being pushed to 11. I also think folks like Farage are doing a lot of the pushing, and it is worrying because logically I only see it ending one way.

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

I totally agree that things appear to be being pushed to 11. I also think folks like Farage are doing a lot of the pushing, and it is worrying because logically I only see it ending one way.

I think Farage will be the next PM, I worry the morons will see this as a pass for persecution to minorities etc

[davieG]

1 hour ago, Dr The Singh said:

I've just read the mails article on Leicester, to be fair it's a fair assessment.  I think the multicultural utopia argument is long dead, things ha e definitely changed.

Do you have a link Dr?

[leicsmac]

16 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I think Farage will be the next PM, I worry the morons will see this as a pass for persecution to minorities etc

If he is, then I think the final part of that sentence will become pretty much a certainty.

 

Here's hoping the UK follows the recent Canada/Australia route instead.

[kenny]

5 minutes ago, davieG said:

Do you have a link Dr?

https://archive.is/20250510114642/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14696263/Inside-Britains-segregated-city-Areas-nearly-half-adults-speak-English-restaurants-women-eating-curtains-deprived-streets-imported-religious-warfare-threatens-break-DAVID-PATRIKARAKOS.html

 

A very interesting read.

 

The stat that only 57% of Leicester residents were born in England is incredible.

[ajthefox]

2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

I've just read the mails article on Leicester, to be fair it's a fair assessment.  I think the multicultural utopia argument is long dead, things ha e definitely changed.

I tend to agree, but I think the tensions and identity politics are worse because many peoples living standards as a whole are getting worse and public services are struggling.

 

People wouldn't be so bothered and voting in the droves for reform and we hadn't already been subjected to so much.

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

I tend to agree, but I think the tensions and identity politics are worse because many peoples living standards as a whole are getting worse and public services are struggling.

 

People wouldn't be so bothered and voting in the droves for reform and we hadn't already been subjected to so much.

And the problem is that there are people in high places that know this and are encouraging the social deprivation because firstly it's good for business in of itself, and also because a good race/religion/ideological divide keeps the attention away from them, as well as (for some of them) being exactly what they want in terms of their own ideology.

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

And the problem is that there are people in high places that know this and are encouraging the social deprivation because firstly it's good for business in of itself, and also because a good race/religion/ideological divide keeps the attention away from them, as well as (for some of them) being exactly what they want in terms of their own ideology.

Are you saying these people are following a commonly known, tried and tested method of despots?

 

For shame!

[Paninistickers]

Liam Payne left 24m. Blimey. I'd never heard of him I til he died (which says more about me than him tbf) but wow, the well worn old story is how celebrities burn through money and/or exploited by their record companies and end up with very little. 

 

But 24m. He was either very smart, frugal or had good people around him

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Are you saying these people are following a commonly known, tried and tested method of despots?

 

For shame!

It's remarkable how inability to learn from the past appears to be buried into the human psyche, isn't it?

[davieG]

21 minutes ago, kenny said:

https://archive.is/20250510114642/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14696263/Inside-Britains-segregated-city-Areas-nearly-half-adults-speak-English-restaurants-women-eating-curtains-deprived-streets-imported-religious-warfare-threatens-break-DAVID-PATRIKARAKOS.html

 

A very interesting read.

 

The stat that only 57% of Leicester residents were born in England is incredible.

How thoroughly depressing. 

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

Liam Payne left 24m. Blimey. I'd never heard of him I til he died (which says more about me than him tbf) but wow, the well worn old story is how celebrities burn through money and/or exploited by their record companies and end up with very little. 

 

But 24m. He was either very smart, frugal or had good people around him

I believe that was after debts as well, think all in he had 28.5m. Crazy to think of having a 4.5m debt I start to panic if the CC goes over £450  but I guess the bigger the circle the bigger the debt.

[Foxdiamond]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

How thoroughly depressing. 

For the guys and gals etc that live in Leicester what is the feeling of life in and your locality?

[FoyleFox]

20 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I believe that was after debts as well, think all in he had 28.5m. Crazy to think of having a 4.5m debt I start to panic if the CC goes over £450  but I guess the bigger the circle the bigger the debt.

It's a deduction for fees i.e. Solicitors, taxes and debts, which would or could be things like a mortgage, car payments. I'm sure it's not just £4M on a CC.

[Bellend Sebastian]

17 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

For the guys and gals etc that live in Leicester what is the feeling of life in and your locality?

Well I must admit I don't have much cause to visit St Matthews very often but a very friendly Uber driver told me yesterday that he's lived there for 9 years and he thinks it's great, and much, much better than it used to be, with far fewer issues with drugs etc. He told me all this fluent English, how lucky was I?

 

Always glad to hear about the view of a journalist parachuted in to represent what is basically the media arm of the Conservative Party though

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, kenny said:

https://archive.is/20250510114642/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14696263/Inside-Britains-segregated-city-Areas-nearly-half-adults-speak-English-restaurants-women-eating-curtains-deprived-streets-imported-religious-warfare-threatens-break-DAVID-PATRIKARAKOS.html

 

A very interesting read.

 

The stat that only 57% of Leicester residents were born in England is incredible.

Considering how long our city has had such a significant population of immigrants, it’s interesting that 43% were born outside of England.  You’d think that the number of second and third generation ( born here) would have made this percentage much lower. 
 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, leicsmac said:

It's remarkable how inability to learn from the past appears to be buried into the human psyche, isn't it?

Oh, I think they've learned.

 

They just they weren't paying attention.

 

It occurred to me recently, when Henry Ford said history is bunk, if it actually was, no one would know that.

[davieG]

40 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Considering how long our city has had such a significant population of immigrants, it’s interesting that 43% were born outside of England.  You’d think that the number of second and third generation ( born here) would have made this percentage much lower. 
 

They've moved into the county

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

They've moved into the county

Obviously 

but I’m still surprised by the stats based on the numbers of second and third generation immigrants that there must be in Leicester 

[bovril]

37 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Obviously 

but I’m still surprised by the stats based on the numbers of second and third generation immigrants that there must be in Leicester 

I think I read something along the lines of more people from Pakistan moved to the UK since Brexit than in the preceding 50 years. 

[Parafox]

18 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Yes they are scumbags, but a ten year sentence would be overkill.  Drink drivers who kill people usually get less than that. 

 

Not so. From Gov.uk website:

 

Causing death by careless driving when under the influence of drink

You may get:

life imprisonment

an unlimited fine

a ban from driving for at least 5 years

an extended driving test before your licence is returned

 

The usual sentence is 14 years.

Edited 10 May 2025 by Parafox

[bovril]

3 hours ago, ajthefox said:

I tend to agree, but I think the tensions and identity politics are worse because many peoples living standards as a whole are getting worse and public services are struggling.

Yes there are lots of examples from history, some quite recent, of multi-ethnic polities falling apart because socioeconomic disparities and declining living standards create tensions between ethnic groups that spill over into violence. 

[Lionator]

It’s interesting to see Trump and Vance learn in real time the negative impact of America First.

 

USA are hands off India/Pakistan, then USA receive some ‘alarming intelligence’, perhaps something related to Pakistani nukes. Most likely the started moving their nukes around to get US attention. Almost immediately Vance and Rubio get involved and within hours there’s a massive de-escalation. 

 

Theyre also learning that the Russian’s don’t care about what Europeans say, but that the one thing Putin respects (despite hating), is the USA. 
 

It’s like they’re massively underestimating their own soft power. 

Edited 10 May 2025 by Lionator