Is relegation a price worth paying for avoiding a PSR breach?

[ClaphamFox]

The club has decided that avoiding a PSR breach is more important than survival. Is this the right decision? 

[Lako42]

I'm not voting, but you have to ask yourself why we find ourselves asking the question at all. 

[Swarles Barkley]

Or Option C

 

Get relegated and get a breach in the Championship

 

Because we are run by a team of incompetent idiots

[MattFox]

Not sure they’ve decided that tbf

 

Think they are just rank incompetent 

[Thebluefox85]

Financially it’s not surely you would take the hit problem is our recruitment department is absolutely awful and has been for the last 5 years but Top clearly thinks the Calibre of player we are bringing is good enough because not one of them has lost their job. After the absolute rubbish we have signed.

[TeamRocket]

Honestly, would rather be hit with minus points then watch us play this bad this season. At least if we started with minus points or get hit with minus points I could lie to myself and say it's cos we started with minus points. However, we screwed ourself and made ourselves look like a bunch of Sunday league players 

[phoneticerror]

I’m done for a while. KPFC can f**k off.

[CosbehFox]

We ain’t surviving any breach.

 

Theres a bigger likelyhood EFL ping us 

[FrankieADZ]

18 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

The club has decided that avoiding a PSR breach is more important than survival. Is this the right decision? 

well they are probably going to get hit with an EFL penalty anyway if/when we go down

so this question of the thread is kinda so so

Edited 4 February by FrankieADZ

[phoneticerror]

4 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

well they are probably going to get hit with an EFL penalty anyway if/when we go down

so this question of the thread is kinda so so

Both Top and Rudkin are arrogant enough to believe we can stay up. Again.

[FrankieADZ]

Just now, phoneticerror said:

Both Top and Rudkin are arrogant enough to believe we can stay up. Again.

shows how incredibly stupid both of them are doesnt it

[kingpower]

But aren’t the EFL rubbing their hands together at the prospect of us being relegated? Fines, points deductions and transfer/registration bans incoming…

[shiv]

I really don’t see why we didn’t take the risk like Forest did a couple of years ago. Either the board are delusional and confident we will stay up, or they’ve accepted our fate in the Championship next season.

 

The crazy thing is we could probably have avoided a PSR breach as Mads will leave in the summer regardless of what division we’re in, and that would’ve probably covered any spending we did this window. 
 

Absolute shambles. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

Why do we suffer more than other clubs ? People say we rolled the dice for top 4 - did we ?

 

Sold Maguire, Chilwell and Fofana and acquired players for similar amounts. 
 

Held back January 2020 and 2021. Held back summer 2022. Held back last Jan. Held back this Jan. 

 

Oh that’s right, we’ve paid significant sums of the clubs money to players “desperate” to move to the mighty Wolves. 
 

The decision making of this collective is so poor and limited that the default answer should always be the opposite of what they do. They couldnt run a bath. 

Edited 4 February by Mickyblueeyes

[coolhandfox]

I wouldn't mind us getting relegated if we set our stall out in the summer.

 

If they'd have came out and said we need to rebuild this year is going to be tough but is essential.

 

Then proceed not to spend money on players like Ajew, BDCR, Skipp and Okoli.

 

Instead we could have used Cannon, Alves, Nelson and Braybrooke and gave them experience and saved 50m.

 

Yes we probably would be doing a Southampton but we could have gone down without a load of extra dead wood.

 

In the summer would could have offload more of the shit for cheap, Daka, Soumare, Coady etc.

 

Then done a massive rebuild.

Edited 4 February by coolhandfox

[blue army 1988]

Dont know if this has been said but anyone noticed what Forest did?

A season of getting loads of players in, had points deduction and now look where they are after hardly spending anything this season. I think it was like £8 mill last time I looked.

[ClaphamFox]

22 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

well they are probably going to get hit with an EFL penalty anyway if/when we go down

so this question of the thread is kinda so so

Well we didn’t breach for the year we were in the EFL and it’s far from clear whether the EFL will be able to go after us for the 2020-23 period. Presumably if the club believed an EFL-imposed deduction was inevitable in the event of relegation, it would have done everything it could to stay up? If a points deduction is heading our way no matter what, surely it would be far better to take it in the PL than the Championship?

 

20 minutes ago, kingpower said:

But aren’t the EFL rubbing their hands together at the prospect of us being relegated? Fines, points deductions and transfer/registration bans incoming…

Forget about the transfer embargo. There are no grounds for the EFL to impose one - zilch, zero, nada. It’s not happening. Some people have speculated that the EFL might try to go after us for 2020-23 (the period the PL tried but failed to punish us for), but - as stated above - it is not remotely clear that they will be able to.

 

What I’m getting at is that the club’s decision to prioritise avoiding a PSR breach over survival can only mean that it believes a points deduction will be avoided if we go down. Otherwise our lack of investment over the past month makes no sense whatsoever.

[foxfanazer]

We deserve everything coming our way. Don't even want us to keep getting away with it 

[ian__marshall]

7 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

I'm not voting, but you have to ask yourself why we find ourselves asking the question at all. 

Agree with this 100%. The original breach was serious mismanagement of the finances, but giving the club some leeway they gambled and it went very wrong. However the transfer fees recovered over the past 2 year's, and more importantly the wages that have dropped out of the accounts should surely see us in a much healthier position. If that's not the case given how much wages in particular accounted for, then we have some catastrophic issues in terms of the day to day running of the club. 

[Foxin_Mad]

I can only assume the club have calculated selling a Championship striker we need next year means we will meet Championship PSR, depends how well Rudkins abacus was working. Utterly baffling business for a team that WILL be playing in the Championship next year. 

[JimmyC74]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

The club has decided that avoiding a PSR breach is more important than survival. Is this the right decision? 

Maybe. That is if we are looking long term, if we learn the lessons and complete an overhaul of the entire football operation side of the business but, I don't have confidence they will learn / take the necessary action and we could still get hit by the EFL.

 

And still lots of deadwood in that squad..........no easy task to bounce back.

[CUJimmy]

44 minutes ago, shiv said:

I really don’t see why we didn’t take the risk like Forest did a couple of years ago. Either the board are delusional and confident we will stay up, or they’ve accepted our fate in the Championship next season.

 

The crazy thing is we could probably have avoided a PSR breach as Mads will leave in the summer regardless of what division we’re in, and that would’ve probably covered any spending we did this window. 
 

Absolute shambles. 

We would need to sell Mads very early in the window otherwise it wouldn’t be in the same accounting period.

[davieG]

I think it's too late anyway, we messed it up in the summer transfer window. A couple of new players wasn't going to solve the weak mentality of the squad and ensure we survive. 

 

Relegation now looks inevitable so we need to ensure we have the right 'team' on board to clear the waste from the team and replenish the squad with strong willed, committed and skilled players. A mix of youth and experience and to rebuild.

 

But unless the club looks in the mirror at itself and realise they are the root cause of our demise, who else could it be? Certainly not PSR and act accordingly.

 

 

[bald reynard]

But relegation is very likely to bring a (big) points deduction, fines and a transfer embargo, as the EFL seek retribution for 2023/24 financial failures! PL PSR is irrelevant!

[John rayner]

56 minutes ago, kingpower said:

But aren’t the EFL rubbing their hands together at the prospect of us being relegated? Fines, points deductions and transfer/registration bans incoming…

Well if that's the case we will end up in league 1 again