Foxes Trust latest statement!

[SecretPro]

'Weve had discussions about openess and transparency that we can't be open and transparent about'. 

 

Unless bunch of limp *****.

[RYM]

2 hours ago, Clogger_ said:

Thank you RYM for keeping us abreast of goings on with those FT muppets. It's interesting - if disheartening - to hear about another way in which the interests of the fanbase are misrepresented and ignored

The @Foxes_Trust  need a comms strategy. God knows what that sub group have been doing for months now but this is basic stuff.

 

Whacking stuff on Facebook and its own site before emailing the members with the details is pretty basic stuff.

 

They should be ensuring that all members have a chance to read it (on email) first and not hoping it’s picked up on some third party app. 

[Foxes_Trust]

2 hours ago, RYM said:

Very similar to the club publicly saying they show the fans their finances when the reality was they only showed Ian Basin but he wasn’t allowed to tell or show anyone else at the trust 🤣. Yes that’s a thing. 

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

Edited 15 February by Foxes_Trust

[RYM]

2 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

Well, that was a thing and you know it, why else would it be raised.

 

There’s loads of other points and challenges raised on here in your @‘s or in those group chats from way back in the summer if you’d care to give those some of your late night attention.

 

Before I get another email and phone call, none of this is personal, it’s just holding those accountable in senior positions who have let the club manipulate the trust and it’s members for far too long, for what can only be perceived as self-gain / to be in the know.

Edited 15 February by RYM

[PAULCFC]

I'm a member of the foxes trust reform group,Paid my £10 and would like to know what was said at the meeting.......as would quite a few on here i'd imagine.Otherwise it's no better than the clubs silence on everything.Not having a go at the new members there because i think it'll take some time to get things going,but a statement like that isn't going to get any more potential members interested and i thought that's what they wanted?

Edited 15 February by PAULCFC
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[fox_favourite]

Foxes Trust had a meeting and can't share it. It's the lack of open communication that has got fans frustrated and to this point. The 'review' they seemly had that made no difference. The lack of open communication is the main issue and saying there was a meeting but can't say what was said adds to the frustration and people have to come up with their own conclusions. What does that lead to? Protests for change.

 

They may care, they maybe think they're doing what is best for the club. But they're being too secretive and that is fueling the fire. The club are stuck in a loop, and afraid to break it. The only way it will do is through change which is being called for. 

Edited 15 February by fox_favourite

[Parker Pen]

51 minutes ago, PAULCFC said:

I'm a member of the foxes trust reform group,Paid my £10 and would like to know what was said at the meeting.......as would quite a few on here i'd imagine.Otherwise it's no better than the clubs silence on everything.Not having a go at the new members there because i think it'll take some time to get things going,but a statement like that isn't going to get any more potential members interested and i thought that's what they wanted?

Same here, communication is everything and makes for strong leadership! Not sharing the content and releasing a bland statement is wet and stinks of cronyism .If you don’t share and engage people will fill the void with their own narrative and nothing will change.

 

No leadership ar the Foxestrust, in the boardroom or on the pitch. 

[The_Rorab]

I feel like it speaks volumes that whoever was manning the FoxesTrust account has ignored all posts where whoever it is could provide helpful or nuanced insight or just any sort of tidbit to questions and thoughts raised - and instead just tried to bat away one specific criticism and ignore the rest.

 

I've noticed that they tend to just ignore most things asked of them when manning the account if it is the same individual.

 

Like owner, like trust it seems. Utterly unwilling to even attempt actual dialogue or transparency.

 

CosbehFox notwithstanding of course.

[turkish14]

Has anyone thought to ask or presume, why discussions need to be confidential?

 

1) If our finances are known we are even weaker in the transfer market?

 

2) Protecting staff?

 

what logical reason is there? 

[CrazyKopCorner]

Confidential ! that sums up what's wrong with this club. 

 

We need a plain speaking Chairman and management team that actually work in the interest of the club and fans. 

 

I'd get rid of the lot of them and start again on and off the pitch. 

 

[Dahnsouff]

2 minutes ago, turkish14 said:

Has anyone thought to ask or presume, why discussions need to be confidential?

 

1) If our finances are known we are even weaker in the transfer market?

 

2) Protecting staff?

 

what logical reason is there? 

Because businesses behave in a confidential manner by default you would assume.  

[CUJimmy]

9 hours ago, Bert said:

 

It’s on their x account and has been since around 8pm. 
 

 

Do they use any other platforms?  Many people have left Twitter/X over the past 12 months and have migrated to Threads or BlueSky.

[CUJimmy]

Just now, CUJimmy said:

Do they use any other platforms?  Many people have left Twitter/X over the past 12 months and have migrated to Threads or BlueSky.

Ignore this, just found them

[FoxesTez]

7 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

Correct me if I’m wrong but Ian has no financial background or expertise? What makes him the right person to have that meeting?

[Tommy G]

7 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

Bet the FD looks forward to that - easiest hour in his diary that day 

[Tommy G]

3 hours ago, Parker Pen said:

Same here, communication is everything and makes for strong leadership! Not sharing the content and releasing a bland statement is wet and stinks of cronyism .If you don’t share and engage people will fill the void with their own narrative and nothing will change.

 

No leadership ar the Foxestrust, in the boardroom or on the pitch. 

What do you expect from the Foxestrust?
 

Only way any of them could get near a board position in their life is through a voluntary role. So there is no horsepower there to challenge the likes of Susan Whelan - despite what many think is an experienced CEO who will run rings round them half asleep. 

 

If you had people in the trust who knew how to initiate change, communicate properly and influence people then the output wouldn’t be the statement in the past 24 hours. 
 

Jokers 

[coalvillefox]

So in summary:

 

A secret meeting was held

We can't tell you what was asked but what was asked was answered passionately

We can't tell you what the answers are but the answers are promising

Everything will be fine in the end, trust us

[adam]

7 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

What is the point in attending a meeting where the information cannot be shared? You are supposed to be a link between the club and the fans. 

About as much use as Cliff Genettas lot.

[FrankieADZ]

16 minutes ago, coalvillefox said:

So in summary:

 

A secret meeting was held

We can't tell you what was asked but what was asked was answered passionately

We can't tell you what the answers are but the answers are promising

Everything will be fine in the end, trust us

you forgot the "we love the refreshments" part too 

[smudger63]

Doesn't really seem to be much difference between the hierarchy at the club and those running the foxes Trust.  If they are born to secrecy and can not inform their members of what was asked and said in meetings with the club, then what is the point of being a member of the foxes trust.  It just becomes an extension of the clubs hierarchy, and not truly giving back to their membership what would be expected.  For too many years now, there has been far too much cosying up to the hierarchy of the club from the Ginetta run supporters club and the foxes Trust.  What the fans want and need is a group that will challenge the club and insist that the club becomes far more transparent and open with their fans, even if that means ruffling a few feathers and upsetting them.  What the fans currently have as I said earlier is a group that are basically yes men, which is exactly how the club want it.

[Mickyblueeyes]

8 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

That is completely incorrect.

 

Annually the Trust Chair meets with the LCFC Finance Director prior to the publication of the annual accounts and has the opportunity to ask questions

 

Prior to that meeting, an advanced copy of the accounts is supplied to the Trust Chair, who shares them with the full Trust board to enable questions to be compiled, which the Chair then raises with the LCFC FD.

 

The Trust board is then briefed after the meeting, however some of the information shared during that discussion may stay confidential, so will not be revealed further than Trust board level.

 

The club usually post an article on their website about the accounts, which are readily available on Companies House, if the club doesn't provide a direct link

WHO WERE THE OTHER DIRECTORS YOU REFERENCED AT THE MEETING ?

[davieG]

8 hours ago, Scotch said:

They only need 1 member to serve the purpose of relaying the concerns of the wider fan base to the club, asking the questions we want answered and passing their response on to us. 

...and one person is easy to ignore if they don't have the backing in numbers. We have circa 30k fans attending matches and many more who go when they can, with the FT only having 600 members there is no reason for the club to believe they represent the majority and therefore can justifiably, in there eyes ignore the FT.

 

Lone voices carry no weight.

 

Even todays action unless it produces momentum among the fans and in the media will be easy for them to ignore or at best pay lip service to it  probably via the FAB.

[davieG]

2 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

Doesn't really seem to be much difference between the hierarchy at the club and those running the foxes Trust.  If they are born to secrecy and can not inform their members of what was asked and said in meetings with the club, then what is the point of being a member of the foxes trust.  It just becomes an extension of the clubs hierarchy, and not truly giving back to their membership what would be expected.  For too many years now, there has been far too much cosying up to the hierarchy of the club from the Ginetta run supporters club and the foxes Trust.  What the fans want and need is a group that will challenge the club and insist that the club becomes far more transparent and open with their fans, even if that means ruffling a few feathers and upsetting them.  What the fans currently have as I said earlier is a group that are basically yes men, which is exactly how the club want it.

The problem is lack of membership thus representation.

 

Foxes Trust should consider their membership criteria and maybe make it £1 for a 5, 10 year or lifetime membership. Money in the bank doesn't help them in negotiations. If they need money for a particular action they can ask for donations from the increased membership.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

There is no point in fan "consultation" if it can't be reported back to the wider fanbase. 

 

It's like running an election and not reporting the results.

[Sly]

11 hours ago, RYM said:

Just saw this on the old Facebook...

 

Strange it's not been posted on here by the trust. And the timing?

 

https://foxestrust.co.uk/11580/foxes-trust-in-dialogue-with-lcfc

 

"On Wednesday evening last week and yesterday evening, Foxes Trust Co-Chairs, Lynn and Steve, met with Susan Whelan (CEO), other LCFC directors, members of the Supporter Engagement team, and the supporter representatives on the LCFC Fan Advisory Board(FAB). These were open meetings, with frank and candid discussions about the on-field situation, management decisions, finances and supporter anger and disappointment. It was helpful to meet with and witness how the FAB members were not afraid to ask difficult questions of Susan. It was also interesting to note her passion for the club in responding and wanting to provide answers, subject to confidentiality. There was a genuine desire to take on-board views from a supporter perspective and to explore possible solutions, short- and long-term.

We cannot detail the comments and questions asked by others, nor the answers given, as we agreed to abide by the confidentiality imposed on the FAB. We have posed relevant questions and queries, and provided feedback on answers from the Club and other participants. We will maintain dialogue with the Club, and a further meeting is planned for next week."

 

Well, that’s an echo chamber for propaganda.