Efl rodgering

[ParkerPen]

I enjoyed our league 1 season

[Tuna]

Not happening, like I've said before people predicted this two years ago and it didn't happen.

[fox in the sox]

1 hour ago, Lutterworth Fox said:

Even without points deduction or sanctions we're heading for L1.

Nobody wants to play for or manage this club.

I wouldn’t be too sure. Sheff Utd were a total mess and got 16 points last season but they will probably come back up again.

[Scotch]

2 hours ago, ealingfox said:

I keep reading this but nobody has actually explained on what grounds we'll be punished. They do actually have to demonstrate we've broken the actual rules, vibes don't hold up in court.

 

Yes they'll badly want to and will hope they can, but that's not enough.

Because we broke FFP regulations for the 20-23 period. We only escaped punishment because we successfully argued that we weren't under EPL jurisdiction when we submitted the accounts, meaning we were under the EFL's. I'm not sure how it works (neither are our board by the looks of it) but it's fairly logical to assume that they may have the power to punish us for that breach. 

[fox in the sox]

1 minute ago, Scotch said:

Because we broke FFP regulations for the 20-23 period. We only escaped punishment because we successfully argued that we weren't under EPL jurisdiction when we submitted the accounts, meaning we were under the EFL's. I'm not sure how it works (neither are our board by the looks of it) but it's fairly logical to assume that they may have the power to punish us for that breach. 

But the fact that we weren’t under the EFL  when we submitted isn’t going to change even when we go back into it?

[Lesta Legend]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Same people were predicting a PSR rodgering.

 

People love a scare mongering.

 

I think it highly unlikely.

One thing likely to happen, the only assets will be gone and we’ll likely struggle to sell the dross and have limited budget scope for investment. It’ll then be entrusted with Rudkin and his band of merry men to think outside the box to get the squad competitive to stay in the championship. While I think we’d have heard about EFL wanting to **** us without lube by now it’s going to get much worse for this club before it gets better regardless of the EFL . 
 

It appears our youth players mostly without good experience of loans are what we may even need to rely on to play alongside Bobby Reid and Ayew next year. I’d rather the club not blow money on anyone to get straight back up, they can’t be trusted. 

[MancFox24]

1 hour ago, Lineker's Left Foot said:

But others teams I’ve seen Josh Low, Robert Alleyne, Dave Langan, Dave Puttnam etc weren’t half as good as this lot - and it didn’t bother me - but they put in 100% effort and had pride.

 

Disgusted with those fans clapping them off yesterday- seriously?  I will get my club back one day 

 

 

It's not just your club though, it's all of ours. If people spend good money to get to London on a Thursday night and want to clap at that dross then so be it. Some people might find it disgusting that you seem willing to take a further drop into L1 to 'get your club back', but you're entitled to your opinion. I personally think it would be a disaster for us to slip any further and hope we manage to stabilise the club next year with or without the owners, Rudkin and most of the current players

[Pita]

1 hour ago, Lutterworth Fox said:

Even without points deduction or sanctions we're heading for L1.

Nobody wants to play for or manage this club.

The club is so poorly run we are in for a bad few years 

[MrsJohnMurphy]

1 hour ago, Bablemikey said:

Read the title as "Elf Rogering" and immediately clicked on it. Not sure I'm comfortable with what that says about me.

Just don't google it

[Arkie Bennett]

1 hour ago, Bablemikey said:

Read the title as "Elf Rogering" and immediately clicked on it. Not sure I'm comfortable with what that says about me.

If it was in addition to the current fare on the pitch, it would add value to the season ticket - for some, anyway.

[orangecity23]

This years accounts will surely be bad though, won't they? KDH and Enzo money was last season, and this year we've added stupid amounts to our Amortisation for Skipp, Okoli and Ayew, along with Bilal and Abdul. We'll have crap prize money from the Prem for finishing low, and when we go down that will mean our PSR loss allowances get knocked down again, as it will be 2 out opf 3 years in the cycle as a EL club. Won't be surprising if we get the transfer embargo / business plan treatment again in January (although, most Januarys are embargo flavoured in Rudkin land)

[jayfox26]

2 hours ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Anyone else read Elf rodgering 

Were you looking at the thread or your Google search history?

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, fox in the sox said:

I wouldn’t be too sure. Sheff Utd were a total mess and got 16 points last season but they will probably come back up again.

Not compatible situations. They were far from good enough on the pitch of course, and the owner was not investing much as he was trying to sell.

 

However, they didn’t have a completely rotten culture, with overpaid mercenaries who don’t want to be there and didn’t have inept people running the football side.

 

They realised how their season was going and thought ahead to this season. Now they weren’t very creative of course in bringing back Wilder but they did start thinking ahead by building their team for this season, putting youngsters into the side. They may well have gotten a lower points total for this. We are going to barely end up with a much higher total without even preparing for next season.

 

I live in Sheffield and they are a community friendly club, who have an excellent youth system who they give chances to and despite owner uncertainty, have generally continued quite steadily on the pitch. It’s a bit offensive to them to compare us with them to be honest.

[jayfox26]

17 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Just don't google it

Was Brendan involved?

[Fox92]

This ownership deserve it. Deserve everything they get. 

[Blue ROI]

Can't be much worse than our previous rodgering in 22/23

[fox in the sox]

12 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Not compatible situations. They were far from good enough on the pitch of course, and the owner was not investing much as he was trying to sell.

 

However, they didn’t have a completely rotten culture, with overpaid mercenaries who don’t want to be there and didn’t have inept people running the football side.

 

They realised how their season was going and thought ahead to this season. Now they weren’t very creative of course in bringing back Wilder but they did start thinking ahead by building their team for this season, putting youngsters into the side. They may well have gotten a lower points total for this. We are going to barely end up with a much higher total without even preparing for next season.

 

I live in Sheffield and they are a community friendly club, who have an excellent youth system who they give chances to and despite owner uncertainty, have generally continued quite steadily on the pitch. It’s a bit offensive to them to compare us with them to be honest.

What about Southampton the year before who were a mess on and off the field, didn’t get many points but came back up again. 

[Scotch]

1 hour ago, fox in the sox said:

But the fact that we weren’t under the EFL  when we submitted isn’t going to change even when we go back into it?

We WERE under EFL ruling. We submitted our accounts after transferring to prevent the EPL punishing us. 

[fox_up_north]

4 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

I genuinely think we're in for a Portsmouth style decline.

I look forward to being old, enjoying my sandwiches at the stadium and tutting people complaining saying "we were in League 2 once"

[trabuch]

3 hours ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Anyone else read Elf rodgering 

Yes - I thought it was about our former manager Brendan.

[LCFCJohn]

38 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

What about Southampton the year before who were a mess on and off the field, didn’t get many points but came back up again. 

I still don’t see it as compatible. Southampton and Sheffield United was both lack of investment, Southampton from selling over the years and losing quality. Sheffield United were never a settled PL side and didn’t invest rightly either.

 

We have had years of investing terribly, spending money on shit, wages through the roof and now in a seemingly constant cycle of PSR touch and go. Neither of those sides have had that have they?

 

It’s very simplistic to say ‘that team got a low points total and came back up so we will too’. Our situation is much more unique. Since the introduction, and importantly, enforced PSR, we are the only side to have been so settled in the top flight and finances up to the eyeballs. The nearest comparison would probably be Stoke who spent big and failed to come back.

 

Our issues is, and will continue to be until something changes, wages on players who aren’t worth it, who we can’t shift, who have a terrible attitude and don’t put a shift in. Do you think this lot will be any more motivated a league lower? Because I don’t.

[iancognito]

5 hours ago, Bibby said:

As we will no doubt have to bend over and assume the position next season just how painful do you expect it to be?

See Luton for details

[Number 6]

The EFL may well want to get us for past grievances, and it will be very interesting to see if they decide to pursue a points deduction. Given the rings we ran round them previously on rules they may decide it isn't worth the endless legal battles with teams dropping down from the PL - they would become de-facto arbiter for relegated clubs who've been in the PL for a while then too and they may not want the headache. 

 

I'm leaning towards it being more likely that we get no punishment than a punishment at the moment though.

 

In terms of the league, we'll be one of the favourites. It will largely depend on who gets promoted this season and what meat is left on the bones of the relegated clubs once the circling vultures have had their fill (I would have Ipswich as favourites if they were not to lose anyone). Luton are currently sitting in a portentous position, but the double relegation is a rare event, with teams much more likely to occupy the top 6. I think this is particularly true at the moment with the small number of teams in the Champ receiving parachute payments - the likes of Watford, Norwich, West Brom, are no longer receiving these and have been weakened by recent transfer activity. 

[Lambert09]

6 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Same people were predicting a PSR rodgering.

 

People love a scare mongering.

 

I think it highly unlikely.

Whilst I hope you’re true, the efl tend to be able to make decisions on a whim more than the prem. 
 

There’s been little logic to the points deductions for a while. If we’ve broken any rules they will throw the book at us 

[Dahnsouff]

Not sure how this fella will help with set pieces