Why are our fans the way they are?

[The Horse's Mouth]

Also it’s important to point out, every club is going through similar things too. This league becoming the world league has destroyed it, the super league should’ve happened and we’re feeling the rough and tumble of it 

[Chris_OGrady]

I think we've always been a bit below average in terms of atmosphere. We've always been a bit tepid ever since I started going to games regularly in 2006. Back then we would consistently have well over 50% of our away ends sat down when other teams in the Midlands would have 100% standing. We can still create a decent atmosphere on our day and there is enough to not give up hope. Football atmosphere in England is the pits these days and I think there has been a real decline recently. We certainly aren't unique and amongst the worst. 

[RYM]

4 minutes ago, bovril said:

I think the 'focus on opposition fans not our own club' in the OP is true, and a really bad development in modern English fandom. Sloshed lads in front of me at the godforsaken London stadium singing "Millwall" at WHU fans all night is a good example. Like I know we're crap but surely you draw the line at singing the name of another club, especially that club. 

Theres a load of this without doubt. Plus watching with their phones out to stick it all on IG for 17 likes.

 

English fans have been banging on about how much better the atmosphere is over here for years and years because we are reactive fans. That was great years ago when a late tackle, an off the ball push and shove or a controversial decision

would spark something on the terraces but now the game has been cleansed of all that we are left with very little that relates to that mentality. 

This is where UFS have a place but will struggle to win folk over because of the reluctance by older fans to embrace the more capo led continental culture.

 

[OntarioFox]

30 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Weird isn’t it. Given we’re a Labour city you’d expect more to down tools and back in going when faced with something they disagree with 

Bears repeating that Leicester gave the Tories their only gain in the entire country last election. 🤮

[Grebfromgrebland]

We need a bit of jeopardy and excitement which we've not had for maybe four years.

 

I guess people forget what it's like even the players.

[RonnieTodger]

Agree with the obsession with “banter”. I get there’s not much to sing about currently, but there’s an obsession with the other team. 
 

Every away game we sing “football in a library” after about 2 minutes and spend more time trying to bait opposition fans than support our own side.

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, Chris_OGrady said:

I think we've always been a bit below average in terms of atmosphere. We've always been a bit tepid ever since I started going to games regularly in 2006. Back then we would consistently have well over 50% of our away ends sat down when other teams in the Midlands would have 100% standing. We can still create a decent atmosphere on our day and there is enough to not give up hope. Football atmosphere in England is the pits these days and I think there has been a real decline recently. We certainly aren't unique and amongst the worst. 

This is what I don’t get though. Maybe it’s just not in our culture 

[Aus Fox]

2 hours ago, everton carr said:

Remember David Pleat saying when he was manager it was hard being a manager of a football club in a Rugby City

I think he managed to find other ways to amuse himself in the city when things got hard.

[Stadt]

2 hours ago, everton carr said:

Remember David Pleat saying when he was manager it was hard being a manager of a football club in a Rugby City

This is absolutely bollocks and a few others spout it too. Tigers' support comes from the whole of the midlands (plus Sheffield, Peterborough, Cambridge etc) and their attendances have never been particularly close to ours.

 

Tigers are the biggest Rugby club in the country and can't hold a candle to the probably the ~12th biggest football club.

[Stadt]

Fresh blood into a fanbase is what makes the difference atmosphere wise, plus low attendance so like minded fans can group together.

 

We haven't had the former because ST availability hasn't been there since 14/15. The club did the absolute bare minimum for the latter too. Hopefully we get safe standing one day and that does lead the necessary churn.

[Sir Steve Howard]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Also it’s important to point out, every club is going through similar things too. This league becoming the world league has destroyed it, the super league should’ve happened and we’re feeling the rough and tumble of it 

Definitely this. English football has pretty much gone to the dogs atmosphere wise. I'm always banging this drum but Anfield last night was absolute gash. They turned the speakers to 11 for YNWA pre game then it was 90 mins of PSG ultras going for it.

Can still have the odd good moment, Preston last year was incredible but these are becoming increasingly few and far between.

 

[OldBob]

Of course you can look at ticket pricing, cost of living, relegation etc but every other fanbase would have to deal with this. So why are we any different?

 

I think there’s two huge factors that have knocked the atmosphere/passion out of the fan base. Firstly winning the league. it’s never ever getting better than that. What ever happens from here on, is secondary to what we have achieved. It’s like we’ve been in a hangover since 2016.

Secondly is, we have played a brand of football that no matter what the football connoisseurs try and have u believe, it’s pure boring dross (Side to side, passing, back to the defenders constantly). Tactics that kill freedom of expression. I’m not just talking about highly creative players. Look at the likes of Paul Gallagher hitting shots from 30 yards, Steve Howard roughing up a defence, hitting the ball long to the likes of Jamie Vardy of old to run on to etc. The game should be more than just possession. 

 

I think If the club finds it’s identity in the way we play again (playing direct football and hard to beat like we did pre 2017) it would be a start to getting back to better times. Let’s be honest we haven’t played like a real Leicester City side since Craig Shakespeare was in charge.   

[MS0204]

Phones and social media has been the major

downfall in the last 10+ years. People sadly can’t live without it and it has a negative behaviour effect. People can’t live in the moment anymore and when others say about every clubs atmosphere is quiet, 90% of that proves my point. 
 

Just imagine for one second that there was 32,000 in a stadium and there wasn’t one phone to be seen, I guarantee the atmosphere would be improved ten fold.. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I think there are still plenty of our fans that are ****ed off with the club/owners, just by their own accord or because of the club's decisions over the last decade they don't go anymore.

 

The makeup of the fans in the stadium isn't by accident.

[Tommy G]

50 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

Phones and social media has been the major

downfall in the last 10+ years. People sadly can’t live without it and it has a negative behaviour effect. People can’t live in the moment anymore and when others say about every clubs atmosphere is quiet, 90% of that proves my point. 
 

Just imagine for one second that there was 32,000 in a stadium and there wasn’t one phone to be seen, I guarantee the atmosphere would be improved ten fold.. 

People on their phones betting or checking bets mid game. Sad state of the times.

[Chris_OGrady]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

This is what I don’t get though. Maybe it’s just not in our culture 

Probably a mixture of quite a few things: lack of regional pride compared to other places; rural lower middle class rather than urban working class fanbase; club administration that has actively dissuaded atmosphere for years; people with no interest in creating an atmosphere holding significant sway in away priority, which causes more atmosphere minded people to give up/go to less games (I would go to more away games if we had good support and would go in SK1 if I could just turn up and get a ticket on the door). 

[ealingfox]

The worst phenomonenon by far is the big groups of 'lads' that do a load of scenes/limbs in the concourse for the cameras, who then promptly go mute when they go out into the stand. These are the exact groups that realistically need to be driving the atmosphere of our ends.

[HankMarvin]

Do you think there is an element of over exposure, up until the late 90s you could only really see the team live adding to the element of excitement as people recall some of the best atmospheres.

 

Then we were spoilt with the O’Neil and the sky sports era, then a huge downturn in form for 10 odd years, then back to the prem after a long time away which again made it exciting.

The great escape and winning the league in two seasons and by this time you could now watch the team weekly even if you didn’t attend the matches. 
Once you have witnessed, league and cup wins and European football that was beyond most Leicester fans wildest dreams it’s hard to maintain that same adrenaline fulled excitement when watching a team go through the motions with so many over paid flops.

Even more so when you have witnessed players that used to put their hart and sleeves on the line like, Walsh, Elliot, Tags, Izzet, Lennon, Morgan, Huth, Vardy in his pomp and so many of the current players are not very likeable.

[purpleronnie]

Are there any truly passionate fan bases in england anymore?  You could make a case for maybe a handful.  There's so few these days, the premier league set out to eradicate them in 1992 and did a truly incredible job.  

[Chris_OGrady]

6 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Are there any truly passionate fan bases in england anymore?  You could make a case for maybe a handful.  There's so few these days, the premier league set out to eradicate them in 1992 and did a truly incredible job.  

Liverpool and Man United (traditionally the two best fan bases) have seen a big drop off over the last 5-10 years. 10 Years ago they could both hold their own in Europe, but Liverpool fans were completely embarrassed by PSG last night. Anfield was poor.

Edited 12 March by Chris_OGrady

[OnlyOneCity]

2 hours ago, Stadt said:

This is absolutely bollocks and a few others spout it too. Tigers' support comes from the whole of the midlands (plus Sheffield, Peterborough, Cambridge etc) and their attendances have never been particularly close to ours.

 

Tigers are the biggest Rugby club in the country and can't hold a candle to the probably the ~12th biggest football club.

Very true. When Tigers won the European Cup, they had a few thousand turn up in the Town Hall Square, when City won the Championship, they had a bus tour finishing with thousands 8n the Town Hall Square. The obsession with what other fans think of us is ridiculous. As said many times, the atmospheres at other grounds is just as apathetic. Guardiola even had to ask the Man City fans to be a bit louder and more proactive when they won the league. If you’ve been to Anfield then once YNWA has finished, it’s back to sleep mode. Football fans are the same all over the country. Leeds is always held up as so brilliant. Last week when they played Sunderland,, it was very quiet. Soon as they scored, all of a sudden it was the best atmosphere anywhere, according to the sycophantic commentators.

[Grebfromgrebland]

I think we need a couple of seasons being average in the championship so that we can weed out all the glory hunters and those who expect to be entertained.

 

 

Then you'll only have people at the game who are there to support and love the club and hopefully everyone else just pisses off.

 

[Sir Steve Howard]

1 minute ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I think we need a couple of seasons being average in the championship so that we can weed out all the glory hunters and those who expect to be entertained.

 

 

Then you'll only have people at the game who are there to support and love the club and hopefully everyone else just pisses off.

 

Unfortunately we know that this isn't true.

So many of our die hard fans (in terms of attendance through thick and thin) offer absolutely 0 in terms of support other than clapping players off.

As @Stadt mentioned, we need attendance to fall so it's easier for like minded supporters to gather in one place (see Scotland).

[Tommy G]

1 minute ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I think we need a couple of seasons being average in the championship so that we can weed out all the glory hunters and those who expect to be entertained.

 

 

Then you'll only have people at the game who are there to support and love the club and hopefully everyone else just pisses off.

 

I'll stand corrected but I think most of the people that want to jack it in this year is because they are unhappy about the ownership and direction of the club, so until that changes I don't think they will ''come back''

 

Remember Foxestalk is a hyper bowl of negativity, so it might seem like renewals will plummet 50% if you read everything on here, in reality it might be 2-3%, as the majority of our fan base is keep calm and carry on. 

[Leicesterpool]

Sevilla at home... the atmosphere that night electric. Albrightons goal wow the roar!