Danny Rohl - incoming?

[Pliskin]

4 hours ago, Sly said:

The gap between the Premier League and Championship is growing wider.

 

Even with a points deduction, we’ll most likely be around the top half, even with the squad we have. 
 

What this squad isn’t though, is as good as two seasons ago. 
 

We are still a very attractive proposition for a manager. I think we just need to appoint the right one, unless we want to focus on a major squad overhaul. We don’t have time for that, so it sort of narrows the type of Head Coach / tactical approach we’ll approach. 
 

Rohan fits that bill from what I’ve seen. My concern is, so did RVN and that was a right cluster****! 

It’s getting “bigger” because world football is on its arse. 
 

The EPL is shit, and the EFL is absolute dog shit. As I’ve said before the same boring players being produced throughout the world, unimaginative passing robots.
 

However, I’ll caveat that by saying we actually have a group of young players that may counter this. If we employ a manager brave enough to use them, and with some clever additions and retention of a spine…. Even with a possible deduction I believe this squad will surpass the last at this level.  

[mozartfox]

2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

If it is Danny Rohl, I'd be excited for the appointment, and here's why.

As far as our recent history goes, we're in the gutter, at a low point, similar to Wednesday when Rohl.took that position, he also has no history above us, so no big ego, he'll hopefully come in with a project in mind, to build a squad, it may take a bit of patience but I need to see us move in the direction of progress.

Rohl can clearly organise and motivate as that's the qualities weve seen him demonstrate at Wednesday, as opposed to RVN that had only managed a side already top of their league, and furthermore the majority seem behind this appointment which means Rohl will get more time and more love if he gets it right, so fingers crossed for me.

Vorsprung durch Technik.

[Plastik Man]

13 minutes ago, em9999 said:

is growing wider

 

So is my girlfriends arse 

Mate, We've all been there...

[Chelmofox]

19 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

It’s getting “bigger” because world football is on its arse. 
 

The EPL is shit, and the EFL is absolute dog shit. As I’ve said before the same boring players being produced throughout the world, unimaginative passing robots.
 

However, I’ll caveat that by saying we actually have a group of young players that may counter this. If we employ a manager brave enough to use them, and with some clever additions and retention of a spine…. Even with a possible deduction I believe this squad will surpass the last at this level.  

I think the middle (and even upper tier) of top flight football is just very very samey. We seem to be over coaching so many to play a specific style / system where we take away what made them great in the first place. I know he was never worth anywhere what Man City paid for him, but i wish Grealish went somewhere else other than Man City to see how he might have developed if he had the freedom to do so, rather than watch him battle with Pep to just become someone else.   But, whilst the stats show that systems work, and results over long season benefit from robots rather than flair, nothing will change. Then of course, you get a generational talent like Yamal pop up and every seams to do everything they can to make sure other youth players don't shine like he does.

 

Sorry - massively off topic. Lets hope Rhol is announced this week and we get moving pretty sharpish to get everything in shape for the season.  

Edited 29 June 2025 by Chelmofox

[plinchiestincture]

 

God, it looks like Daniel

Must be the clouds in my eyes

[Lewis's Junior]

We're in a worse position than we were 2 years ago playing squad wise, but I'm afraid the chasm between the divisions is such that Vestegaard et al will be fine in teams at the top end of the table. Remember for most of the promotion season we played him in a high line, but still had the best goals conceded in the league! Teams are worse at exploiting our weaknesses, both in chances created and finishing them off. 

Wait to see BCDR and Ayew near the top of the Goals and Assists charts 

 

Very unhealthy position football has itself in, and it only gets worse with Club World Cup charade etc

[OntarioFox]

47 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Vorsprung durch Technik.

Oh god he's an AUDI driver? Pass. 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

You get 12 for administration, they would never get 12 to stick in a million years.

The EFL have given some monsters in the past and i'm not sure how they've been allowed and what the independent commission element of their juridistiction is. Seems like Derby/Luton et al just took it and didn't challenge? 

 

Whilst the EFL maybe allowed to hand a deduction down to us, presumably it's still in this instance set by the independent commissioners who act in unison with the PL? Might be a bigger problem if we fail 24/25.

[ian__marshall]

Wondering if the club has been advised to breach further this FY. The appeal board in their judgment, whilst granting the PL and EFL the ability to apply bilateral punishment were clear that all breaches are to be applied in the same season. I suspect NDeM has flagged that to the club and they'll push for points to be deducted this season as per the appeal board. Therefore it'll have no tangible impact other than the end of season merit award reducing as we'll officially finish below Ipswich. 

 

If either the EFL or PL try and apply to next season/FY I can see us challenging this and winning an appeal which is quite ironic seeing as they've pushed hard to try and screw us. 

[1972 Fox]

The absolute delusion I see on here from many posters on this thread and other threads is astounding.

 

Claims that we'll win the league or comfortably finish in the play-offs even with a significant points deduction is astonishing.

 

With the way the decision makers run our club, I've faced up to the reality that we're more likely to do a Luton than a Burnley.

[Levi Port]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

You get 12 for administration, they would never get 12 to stick in a million years.

They won’t give us 12 for one charge, we’re potentially going to be charged on three separate charges, so accumulatively it’s been touted as 12 

[Pliskin]

58 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I think the middle (and even upper tier) of top flight football is just very very samey. We seem to be over coaching so many to play a specific style / system where we take away what made them great in the first place. I know he was never worth anywhere what Man City paid for him, but i wish Grealish went somewhere else other than Man City to see how he might have developed if he had the freedom to do so, rather than watch him battle with Pep to just become someone else.   But, whilst the stats show that systems work, and results over long season benefit from robots rather than flair, nothing will change. Then of course, you get a generational talent like Yamal pop up and every seams to do everything they can to make sure other youth players don't shine like he does.

 

Sorry - massively off topic. Lets hope Rhol is announced this week and we get moving pretty sharpish to get everything in shape for the season.  

Totally agree with you! 

[Pliskin]

5 minutes ago, Levi Port said:

They won’t give us 12 for one charge, we’re potentially going to be charged on three separate charges, so accumulatively it’s been touted as 12 

Still won’t stick. The panel will take into consideration that the EPL have had to re write the rules to have another pop. 

[STUHILL]

47 minutes ago, Lewis's Junior said:

We're in a worse position than we were 2 years ago playing squad wise, but I'm afraid the chasm between the divisions is such that Vestegaard et al will be fine in teams at the top end of the table. Remember for most of the promotion season we played him in a high line, but still had the best goals conceded in the league! Teams are worse at exploiting our weaknesses, both in chances created and finishing them off. 

Wait to see BCDR and Ayew near the top of the Goals and Assists charts 

 

Very unhealthy position football has itself in, and it only gets worse with Club World Cup charade etc

So true. I was shocked how poor the Championship was 2 years ago, and I don't think it will be much different this time.

I expect Southampton, Ipswich and ourselves to again be pushing at the top, despite how negative we feel towards most our players. I doubt we will be able to shift many out, so any new Manager will likely have to work with the likes of BCDR and Ayew. Lol. 

I just hope we can get rid of some of the toxic characters like Faes, Soumare and Vestergaard. I am hoping Winks can redeem himself, as he is still our best midfielder at this level.

We do need a striker though, as Daka isn't good enough even at this level. I'd like at minimum, a new starting CB and Striker. 

[Eskay]

3 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

So true. I was shocked how poor the Championship was 2 years ago, and I don't think it will be much different this time.

I expect Southampton, Ipswich and ourselves to again be pushing at the top, despite how negative we feel towards most our players. I doubt we will be able to shift many out, so any new Manager will likely have to work with the likes of BCDR and Ayew. Lol. 

I just hope we can get rid of some of the toxic characters like Faes, Soumare and Vestergaard. I am hoping Winks can redeem himself, as he is still our best midfielder at this level.

We do need a striker though, as Daka isn't good enough even at this level. I'd like at minimum, a new starting CB and Striker. 

It was the finishing that shocked me. Strikers were so so poor. I was reminded of this when we played Ipswich in the last home game.....the lad up front would struggle to finish his dinner!

[STUHILL]

2 minutes ago, Eskay said:

It was the finishing that shocked me. Strikers were so so poor. I was reminded of this when we played Ipswich in the last home game.....the lad up front would struggle to finish his dinner!

Mistakes go unpunished. Such a difference from the Premier League. It is why Vestergaard and Faes looked so good 2 years ago. They were given so much time on the ball and were rarely punished for poor defending. I still want them both gone this window though.

[Phild]

3 hours ago, Glasgowfox said:

Fair point....where does the least come from then??

No idea I never used the word least in my comment. 

[pmcla26]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

It’s getting “bigger” because world football is on its arse. 
 

The EPL is shit, and the EFL is absolute dog shit. As I’ve said before the same boring players being produced throughout the world, unimaginative passing robots.
 

However, I’ll caveat that by saying we actually have a group of young players that may counter this. If we employ a manager brave enough to use them, and with some clever additions and retention of a spine…. Even with a possible deduction I believe this squad will surpass the last at this level.  

Other way around. The Premier League is probably the highest quality it’s ever been. 

[Corky]

55 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The EFL have given some monsters in the past and i'm not sure how they've been allowed and what the independent commission element of their juridistiction is. Seems like Derby/Luton et al just took it and didn't challenge? 

 

Whilst the EFL maybe allowed to hand a deduction down to us, presumably it's still in this instance set by the independent commissioners who act in unison with the PL? Might be a bigger problem if we fail 24/25.

Derby lost 9 in 21/22 for PSR reasons. Their 21 points included 12 for administration. Luton lost 20 but that was way before and unrelated to PSR. 

 

Our extra charges really won't help. We have put ourselves in such a bad position needlessly.

 

I do think people are making light of the impact of points deductions. They can really change momentum and also gives you significantly less room for error. I think we are in for a very rough season and beyond.

[STUHILL]

1 hour ago, 1972 Fox said:

The absolute delusion I see on here from many posters on this thread and other threads is astounding.

 

Claims that we'll win the league or comfortably finish in the play-offs even with a significant points deduction is astonishing.

 

With the way the decision makers run our club, I've faced up to the reality that we're more likely to do a Luton than a Burnley.

Were you here 2 years ago? The Championship is absolutely dross. We are in a mess on and off the field, but we still have some very good players at this level. If we get a competent Manager in, then we really should be winning a lot of games. I suspect Southampton and Ipswich might be difficult to match, but I'd be surprised if we weren't in and around the play-offs, with the likes of Fatawa, Mavididi and Winks all performing very well at this level. Bilal and Mads could stay too. If we sign a decent striker and CB, then I wouldn't put it past us to be pushing top 2 either (depending on points deduction)

However, if we don't go up next season, then I will really start to fear for the club, as that will mean a Manager that has potentially failed and also some of our better players pushing for moves with promoted clubs or abroad. 

Edited 29 June 2025 by STUHILL

[BKLFox]

54 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

The absolute delusion I see on here from many posters on this thread and other threads is astounding.

 

Claims that we'll win the league or comfortably finish in the play-offs even with a significant points deduction is astonishing.

 

With the way the decision makers run our club, I've faced up to the reality that we're more likely to do a Luton than a Burnley.

I guess the saving grace is that the decision makers running the club don’t put their boots on, on match days.

We still have low end premiership and high end championship players within our squad which is better than all but a few championship squads.
Couple that with hopefully Rohl who probably has over achieved with the squad at his disposal and issues within the running of that club we should be able to secure PO and have a push for the automatic places which I’d say might just be out of reach but I could also see us getting 1 such is the championship.

[Eskay]

Spoken to a Sheff Wednesday season ticket holder today. 

 

He said Danny doesn't always get it right from the start BUT he's brilliant in changing things during the game. 

Powell is crucial to the back room team. 

 

Interestingly they haven't heard much about Leicester interest and that they still think he'll be paid so will be getting the £5m compensation. Their main focus is that they don't have anywhere to train and no pre season friendlies announced. 

[UniFox21]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

The EFL have given some monsters in the past and i'm not sure how they've been allowed and what the independent commission element of their juridistiction is. Seems like Derby/Luton et al just took it and didn't challenge? 

 

Whilst the EFL maybe allowed to hand a deduction down to us, presumably it's still in this instance set by the independent commissioners who act in unison with the PL? Might be a bigger problem if we fail 24/25.

With the power the independent commission seems to have, and the constant threat of external regulation, I don't think the EFL will have the standing to start throwing ridiculous charges around 

[Levi Port]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Still won’t stick. The panel will take into consideration that the EPL have had to re write the rules to have another pop. 

I agree that it will be hard to make it stick, but it is still possible for us to receive a 12 point punishment, despite that being the reserved for administration 

[mozartfox]

2 hours ago, Plastik Man said:

Mate, We've all been there...

Where???