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Posted
14 minutes ago, MonarchFox said:

My one sticking point with Rohl is that he's said he wants to go back to Germany.

 

It sort of feels a bit Maresca like where he will leave as soon as he gets the chance, leaving us looking for another manager within 12 months.

 

I know managers dont last long but I'd like to see someone try and build something here again, they are generally the most exciting times

I’d rather this situation than having Dyche. 

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3 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

and some of our fans thought our situation was bad, 

this is one of the reasons Rohl is rated so highly when youve got an owner like this in charge

 

Our owners are negligent parents, leave their young kids at home while they go away for a long weekend. Stuff like that. Pretty bad.

 

But if you compare them to Jeffrey Dahmer then obviously they're not going to look quite as bad.

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I mean he's a sucker for punishment is 'are Danny, if he comes to us. Swapping one club spiraling into oblivion under a clueless Thai owner... for another club spiraling into oblivion under a clueless Thai owner. :dunno:

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Posted (edited)

Is everybody forgetting we are likely to be hampered with a 12 point (possibly more) deduction and possibly transfer embargo etc. There really is no coming back from that no matter what wonder manager you could bring in, so we are looking at mid to lower table finish which you would take given those constraints, so why would an ambitious manager like Rohl who has already said he wants to work with a big club want this falling sword. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Phild said:

Is everybody forgetting we are likely to be hampered with a 12 point (possibly more) deduction and possibly transfer embargo etc. There really is no coming back from that no matter what wonder manager you could bring in, so we are looking at mid to lower table finish which you would take given those constraints, so why would an ambitious manager like Rohl who has already said he wants to work with a big club want this falling sword. 

Because we won't get 12 point deduction and he can furnish his CV by getting us in the play offs,with the playing squad he will still have available to him,following 2 or 3

departures.

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1 minute ago, Phild said:

Is everybody forgetting we are likely to be hampered with a 12 point (possibly more) deduction and possibly transfer embargo etc. There really is no coming back from that no matter what oinder manager you could bring in, so we are looking at mid to lower table finish which you would take given those constraints, so why would an ambitious manager like Rohl who has already said he wants to work with a big club want this falling sword. 

A 12 point deduction would have seen us comfortably finish in the play off spots last time round.  You'd need to more than double that in order for us to have finished 7th and miss out on the playoffs, so maybe overdoing the doom mongering a little bit there.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Phild said:

Is everybody forgetting we are likely to be hampered with a 12 point (possibly more) deduction and possibly transfer embargo etc. There really is no coming back from that no matter what wonder manager you could bring in, so we are looking at mid to lower table finish which you would take given those constraints, so why would an ambitious manager like Rohl who has already said he wants to work with a big club want this falling sword. 

Would've thought this would have been in place by now, if that's the case

Posted
3 hours ago, Bilo said:

I've said before and will say again that the points deduction we're likely to receive will have to be unprecedented for a PSR charge for us not to compete for at least the play-offs. Sheffield United had a 2 point deduction and finished third, and still would have done if it had been 12. And they were heroically bad in the Prem the season before. Catastrophically awful. 

 

For us to be knocked out of play-off contention completely, we'd be talking similar to Derby's 21 point deduction or Luton's 30 a few years back. We aren't getting anything like that. We'll probably get between 4 and 8, which would affect us in a tight automatic promotion race but we'll likely have enough about us to be at least 8 points better than 18 Championship sides. 

 

So Röhl would probably have a defiant club wanting to say '**** you' to the EFL, a squad that's levels better than he currently has, money to spend, a youth setup and facilities in a different galaxy to Wednesday's and would be leaving by far the worst run club in the division.

 

We're far from well-run, but Wednesday is a clown show. We would be a huge upgrade by every conceivable metric. He may be looking at someone like Vincent Kompany as his trajectory; get a Championship club promoted, give a decent account of themselves in the Premier League even if relegated to put himself in the shop window and watch the Bundesliga come sniffing. Kompany has gone from a Premier League relegation battle to a Bundesliga title and Club World Cup football in twelve months. Röhl would probably back himself to do similar. 

Sheffield United point deduction was for breaching psr!!! Was for defaulting on payments

Posted
18 hours ago, SecretPro said:

It wasn't meant to be lol

 

I've had a few DMs so I may aswell put my life on the line and say my source is involved in Recruitment and I trust him. 100% was probably a bit strong but I'm 90% its legit (remembering you have to take anything you are told with a bit of trepidation). I trust him. 

Just stuck 2 tonne on this, so you better be right.

 

Nah only joking, appreciate these things need to be taken with some trepidation as you say, and even if the info is spot on, nothing is ever done until it's done. 

 

Appreciate the info and at 2/1 it's a decent payday if it comes off.

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Posted
47 minutes ago, Phild said:

Is everybody forgetting we are likely to be hampered with a 12 point (possibly more) deduction and possibly transfer embargo etc. There really is no coming back from that no matter what wonder manager you could bring in, so we are looking at mid to lower table finish which you would take given those constraints, so why would an ambitious manager like Rohl who has already said he wants to work with a big club want this falling sword. 

12 point deduction would have seen Burnley still in the playoffs, and not far off an automatic spot. The EFL have no jurisdiction to put us under a transfer embargo, so this would soon be squashed if they tried. 
 

12 points is nothing. We could still get deducted 12 points and beat reading points record. 
 

So, this shouldn’t really be taken into consideration to be honest. 

Posted
1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

I’d rather this situation than having Dyche. 

This is weird. For starters, as uninspiring as he would be, Dyche would stand just as much chance as keeping us up in the PL as anybody else linked with us. You saw what happened last summer when we Maresca goes, it rocks the boat. If Dyche gets the job now and takes us up, he isn't being pinched by anybody and allows us to continue to build rather than start from scratch. 

 

I'm not against preferring Rohl to Dyche but if there's any hint towards our board that Rohl wants to jump ship at the first opportunity then we should be steering clear. I understand the argument of getting the best man in now and dealing with unforseen circumstances (Maresca to Chelsea) later but that really blunted us last year. 

 

I know the club finances probably would disagree with me on this but I'd rather spend two or three years at this level and build up again, academy starlets included, rather than go back up with the core squad that has seen us go down up and down again. 

Posted
2 hours ago, MonarchFox said:

My one sticking point with Rohl is that he's said he wants to go back to Germany.

 

It sort of feels a bit Maresca like where he will leave as soon as he gets the chance, leaving us looking for another manager within 12 months.

 

I know managers dont last long but I'd like to see someone try and build something here again, they are generally the most exciting times

Partly why I think I lean more towards Dyche in a way, Dyche’s ceiling isn’t higher than lower end of the prem the likelihood of him being poached is almost zero. Rohl has a huge ceiling and could very easily end up in a good size job off the back of only getting promoted with us 

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I can't get my head around people worrying that he'd use us as a stepping stone. Of course he would if he does well. The days of players and managers staying at a club and batting off more lucrative offers from bigger clubs are well and truly over; that's part of what made Vardy so special here, because he bucked that very real trend. 

 

If he's at Dortmund or Bayern three years after joining us, it's because he's done a damned good job with us. We just need to get our heads around the concept of succession planning, as Brentford have done with Andrews, by allowing King to learn his trade here under an exciting, young progressive manager. 

 

The reverse applies too. If he's at Blackpool or some Bundesliga 2 plodders, it's because he hasn't done well here. Football clubs cannot guarantee a five or ten year tenure for any manager, so it's irrational to expect the reverse. 

 

Posted
19 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Partly why I think I lean more towards Dyche in a way, Dyche’s ceiling isn’t higher than lower end of the prem the likelihood of him being poached is almost zero. Rohl has a huge ceiling and could very easily end up in a good size job off the back of only getting promoted with us 

We really are at a low point if we are wanting to appoint a manager on the basis they aren’t going to be poached by another club. If we want to progress again as a club then we have to be ambitious and that means going for the best available candidate with the highest ceiling and if that means having to go through another recruitment process in 18 months - 2years time then so be it. Appoint crap and we will be looking for a new manager in 12 months time anyway but instead of getting a decent wedge in compo we will be paying out hefty severance packages. 
 

The club need to operate like Martin George did, appoint young, hungry upcoming managers and constantly monitor and update potential future targets so when the time comes and our manager is poached like Enzo, we are positioned ready with a shortlist of 4/5 ready made replacements. 

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3 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I can't get my head around people worrying that he'd use us as a stepping stone. Of course he would if he does well. The days of players and managers staying at a club and batting off more lucrative offers from bigger clubs are well and truly over; that's part of what made Vardy so special here, because he bucked that very real trend. 

 

If he's at Dortmund or Bayern three years after joining us, it's because he's done a damned good job with us. We just need to get our heads around the concept of succession planning, as Brentford have done with Andrews, by allowing King to learn his trade here under an exciting, young progressive manager. 

 

The reverse applies too. If he's at Blackpool or some Bundesliga 2 plodders, it's because he hasn't done well here. Football clubs cannot guarantee a five or ten year tenure for any manager, so it's irrational to expect the reverse. 

 

Oi! That's 2 posts in a row of yours I've seen that are absolutely spot on. 

 

Make sure your next one is absolute nonsense as you're not allowed such a good hit rate on here.

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Our social media account constantly showcasing the glory days of *checks notes*, Gerry Taggart and Frank Sinclair, tells you everything you need to know about the mentality of our fanbase. 

 

Most of us would be much more comfortable with little old Leicester staying in our yo-yo box, with players that are ours for 10 years plus. 

 

Ambitious teams require players with elite potential. Players with elite potential aren't going to stick around forever. Same with managers. 

 

We'd be lucky to act as a stepping stone in our current state.

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Just now, Claudio Fannieri said:

We really are at a low point if we are wanting to appoint a manager on the basis they aren’t going to be poached by another club. If we want to progress again as a club then we have to be ambitious and that means going for the best available candidate with the highest ceiling and if that means having to go through another recruitment process in 18 months - 2years time then so be it. Appoint crap and we will be looking for a new manager in 12 months time anyway but instead of getting a decent wedge in compo we will be paying out hefty severance packages. 
 

The club need to operate like Martin George did, appoint young, hungry upcoming managers and constantly monitor and update potential future targets so when the time comes and our manager is poached like Enzo, we are positioned ready with a shortlist of 4/5 ready made replacements. 

I'd want us to do what Brentford have done and have not just quality young players trained the way we want, but quality young coaches as well. 

 

Imagine a scenario where Röhl has got us promoted, kept us up and then been poached by Bayer Leverkusen with Andy King stepping into the hot seat after two years of learning from a quality coach and momentum from two successful seasons. That, coupled with his status as a Leicester legend, would give him unbelievable credit in the bank as well as an intimate understanding of the club and no compensation to pay to another side for a manager who may or may not click.

Posted
1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

Definitely he'll have to take it like a he/him, gender neutral person

Take it like they.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

We really are at a low point if we are wanting to appoint a manager on the basis they aren’t going to be poached by another club. If we want to progress again as a club then we have to be ambitious and that means going for the best available candidate with the highest ceiling and if that means having to go through another recruitment process in 18 months - 2years time then so be it. Appoint crap and we will be looking for a new manager in 12 months time anyway but instead of getting a decent wedge in compo we will be paying out hefty severance packages. 
 

The club need to operate like Martin George did, appoint young, hungry upcoming managers and constantly monitor and update potential future targets so when the time comes and our manager is poached like Enzo, we are positioned ready with a shortlist of 4/5 ready made replacements. 

Yes we are at a low point we’ve had 2 relegations in 3 years with a club in increasingly financial security, meaning we aren’t a very good position to retain people even if they get success here.Stability is key for the next two years. It’s about appointing a manager that you know can get the job done and is likely to remain. 

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3 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Yes we are at a low point we’ve had 2 relegations in 3 years with a club in increasingly financial security, meaning we aren’t a very good position to retain people even if they get success here.Stability is key for the next two years. It’s about appointing a manager that you know can get the job done and is likely to remain. 

You mean someone past it or shite like Cooper because that is what we talking about a manager who nobody else would poach, look how that turned out, let him bring in past it guff like Ayew and BDCR, spent a fortune on Skipp and signed a loanee in Edouard who only featured in the matchday squad a handful of minutes more than I did and to then sack him within 6 months. 
 

We have to be progressive and ambitious for whatever level we are at, so I want to see managers with high ceilings not a name who has been on the merry go round just because they are deemed old school and might ruffle a few feathers, when in truth all they will do is disengage the players with out dated tactics and methods. 

 

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