Mads Hermansen (close to 18m move to West Ham)

[lcfcbluearmy]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Just going to leave this here for edification purposes

James Trafford Burnley to Man City should be in 9th 31.2 million euros

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, lcfcbluearmy said:

James Trafford Burnley to Man City should be in 9th 31.2 million euros

He would, but he also has English tax inflation

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

No they aren't.

 

Ok

 

 

[lcfcbluearmy]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

He would, but he also has English tax inflation

Yes they definitely overpaid because English. To be honest that was more my point the fact James Trafford is one of the top ten most expensive goalkeepers ever is crazy

[Edingleyfox]

Mail on line reporting £18m plus £5m add-ons which sounds more reasonable.

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

No they aren't.

 

There’s already been a goal conceded on the opening day of the football league calendar with a keeper mincing around with the ball. 
 

I’ll highlight others throughout the season as and when I see them.

 

Feel free to show me all the goals that are of a direct result of a keeper playing it out to his right back please 

[fuzzymizzit]

10 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

There’s already been a goal conceded on the opening day of the football league calendar with a keeper mincing around with the ball. 
 

I’ll highlight others throughout the season as and when I see them.

 

Feel free to show me all the goals that are of a direct result of a keeper playing it out to his right back please 

'direct result' completely misses the point, though

[HankMarvin]

Brondy had sell ons, so even less profit 

[Ric Flair]

8 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Brondy had sell ons, so even less profit 

15% of £12m so about £1.8m

[foxgas]

Our Academy should be producing competent English keepers. We were quite good at in the 60's and 70's, with bog basic facilities.

[Foxmeister]

18 minutes ago, foxgas said:

Our Academy should be producing competent English keepers. We were quite good at in the 60's and 70's, with bog basic facilities.

It’s all relative, everyone had basic facilities back then. Most clubs don’t have a Banks, Shilton or Wallington for decades, never mind all 3 in such a short space of time. There’s some good fortune involved.

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, fuzzymizzit said:

'direct result' completely misses the point, though

 

You're wasting your time. 

 

[The Year Of The Fox]

10 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

You're wasting your time. 

 

I bow to your superior football knowledge.

 

I’ll still keep my side of the ‘goalkeepers fcukin about and conceding a goal’ bargain 

[Qwerty]

4 hours ago, Jazzy_Jeff said:

I’m surprised more clubs haven’t come in for him as several need/have needed keepers.

 

Chelsea have been linked with several but didn’t come in for him (even more surprising given Enzo link), Man Utd and Newcastle have struggled in that position and Bournemouth and Brentford lost last seasons keepers. Man City also re-signed Trafford for a significantly higher fee than we’re getting for Mads.

 

Any chance he’s not as good as we think he is? Looking back he has made several errors leading to goals with both his feet and hands since he’s been with us. His injury history also leaves a question mark.

I think it’s the recent injury that has lowered his value.  He was amazing in the Championship, and really good for the first half of the PL, but not as good after his injury.  He’s had surgery and it’s too soon to know if he’ll get back to his best, or if it’ll be a recurrent problem.  I reckon that uncertainty will be the reason the big teams haven’t come for him, and we’ve had to accept a relatively low price. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Started last season on absolute fire and at the beginning of December was £30m however since then he has been either injured or poor form which has meant that the interest has been greatly reduced and therefore his value has diminished, too many are focusing on his form at the start of the season where as unfortunately the footballing world and West Ham are basing their interest and offer off the back of a pretty disappointing last 6 months of injury and some fairly underwhelming performances. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

The price isn’t great BUT for a club who has just been relegated, tied up in PSR issues and uncertainty our negotiating position was shit from the start. The reality is, you can’t sell as a PL club if you’re not one. Some may think you can but that’s naive. 
 

The club holds no cards in discussions with these clubs - regardless of whether the player throws a wobbly or not, there is a desperate need to sell due to poor negotiating and contracts agreed over the last 3/5 years. 
 

It’s unfortunate, it’s a fee we may come to moan about more in 6 months time but it’s the best we are going to get. 
 

 

[Qwerty]

4 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

The price isn’t great BUT for a club who has just been relegated, tied up in PSR issues and uncertainty our negotiating position was shit from the start. The reality is, you can’t sell as a PL club if you’re not one. Some may think you can but that’s naive. 
 

The club holds no cards in discussions with these clubs - regardless of whether the player throws a wobbly or not, there is a desperate need to sell due to poor negotiating and contracts agreed over the last 3/5 years. 
 

It’s unfortunate, it’s a fee we may come to moan about more in 6 months time but it’s the best we are going to get. 
 

 

I agree. And I think it’s also offset to an extent by getting far more for Ndidi than I thought we would.  

[Dahnsouff]

10 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I bow to your superior football knowledge.

 

I’ll still keep my side of the ‘goalkeepers fcukin about and conceding a goal’ bargain 

You stick to your endless drab 0-0’s. 

 

Things change and so they should.

[Rusko187]

5 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Just going to leave this here for edification purposes

I know he was World Class and worthy of the price tag but Juve paying 53m for Buffon in 2001 is absolutely wild!

[Mickyblueeyes]

6 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

I agree. And I think it’s also offset to an extent by getting far more for Ndidi than I thought we would.  

I don’t think anything makes it a good deal or offsets it. It’s a deal we’ve been forced by inept leadership to absolutely do. And that’s the sad part. Most of our sales in the last 3 years have been forced for lower sums due to Top and Rudkin being here. They weaken us just by existing. 

[Qwerty]

3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t think anything makes it a good deal or offsets it. It’s a deal we’ve been forced by inept leadership to absolutely do. And that’s the sad part. Most of our sales in the last 3 years have been forced for lower sums due to Top and Rudkin being here. They weaken us just by existing. 

I’m just trying to cheer myself up!

And you win some, you lose some.  We’ve had to sell Mads for far less than we’d like, but there have been times when we’ve sold players for more than they’re worth.  Wes Fofana for example - he’s barely played for Chelsea because of relentless injuries.  As angry as it made me at the time, getting rid of him turned out very well.  And Danny Drinkwater too.  
 

Edited 8 August 2025 by Qwerty

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

There’s already been a goal conceded on the opening day of the football league calendar with a keeper mincing around with the ball. 
 

I’ll highlight others throughout the season as and when I see them.

 

Feel free to show me all the goals that are of a direct result of a keeper playing it out to his right back please 

Depends what you class as direct result really, as the second against Watford comes from Hermansen being very good at playing out 

 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Qwerty said:

I’m just trying to cheer myself up!

Did you ever come to the wrong place!  

 

Seriously, Mads is not 40m keeper (blue tinted in the extreme) and to suggest such speaks of a desire to be discontented by the club at large.

 

 Would far rather he would stay, but we live with the fallout from our missteps. (Well, the regimes).

 

 We are cleaning house and there was always going to be casualties. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

7 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

I’m just trying to cheer myself up!

And you win some, you lose some.  We’ve had to sell Mads for far less than we’d like, but there have been times when we’ve sold players for more than they’re worth.  Wes Fofana for example - he’s barely played for Chelsea because of relentless injuries.  As angry as it made me at the time, getting rid of him turned out very well.  And Danny Drinkwater too.  
 

In both Fofana and Drinkwater situations we got much more satisfying fees. Albeit in the Fofana deal our leverage was reduced by Rudkin and Top being morons and Fofana throwing the wobbly he did. 
 

Maddison (made worse by the fees we paid for Skipp and Winks), Barnes, Castagne, Mads have been lower than we would’ve got had we had some leverage. 
 

Kdh deal was actually quite good until we spent it on Skipp and Ayew! 
 

it is what it is but the cause of it is the rat bastard Top and his lover. That is something we should never forget. The worst news this week isn’t the sale of Mads is the Dorset love article suggesting Top remains “committed”. Jesus what is he committed to ? 

[FoxesWalk]

2 hours ago, Edingleyfox said:

Mail on line reporting £18m plus £5m add-ons which sounds more reasonable.

Yeah that is a bit better, that it puts it close to the fee Chelsea got for Petrovic, who is arguably worth less than Mads but we are in a poor negotiation position.