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Lionator

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35 minutes ago, bovril said:

You've hit the nail on the head. The prime motivation for great swathes of the British voting public is for people, especially young people, to be absolutely miserable. 

It’s true as well. Anyone between 18-35 in this country has nothing unless they were born into money or sacrificed an awful lot, and yet we’re still seen as the lazy generation. See the current campaign about student loans and the elders response of “you should’ve learned a trade or gone down pit instead” as if ambition and education are a bad thing. Many trades are also learnt at university these days too.

leicsmac

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5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Massie by the way, could be a wildcard for 2028 if Trump really disillusions the Republican base. 

Think the only way that happens is if Trump leaves office early, for whatever reason. 

 

On the other side, I really do want to see Booker run for the Dems but he doesn't seem interested this time. 

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Honestly the student loan system really winds me up now I've started properly repaying it - my wealthiest peers at uni don't have any debt and so get an extra £400-£500 each month from their take-home pay vs my take home. Given it's structured as a tax, it feels unbelievably regressive that the wealthiest don't pay that tax and build up their savings much more quickly, from the good fortune of having parents who could afford to pay the fees and maintenance up front. 

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foxes1988

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3 hours ago, danny. said:

not good news for the grid though, seems we've learnt nothing from the Iberian peninsula blackouts last year 

Agreed our grid needs major investment which they are doing to be fair but we need to go further but our lack of investment in this regard for the last 20 years is hampering us.

 

I think you are jumping the gun if your implying renewables caused that blackout. Found a very informative YouTube video about the report and shows just how complicated electrical grid systems are.

 

 

4 hours ago, danny. said:

We need to look at our grid *before* adding more non spinning based generators though, we rely on the inertia of those generators to guard against frequency changes on the grid and the more we shift the balance away from that the more problems we will have.

Inertia is not the only thing we rely and I agree to keep looking at our grid and upgrading it but *before* adding more generators isn't good enough. It's not efficient, too risky and not ambitious enough. Under investment in this country has been a key handbrake on the country for years now and we've got to get on with stuff if we decide to do something not go in half hearted.

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47 minutes ago, foxes1988 said:

Agreed our grid needs major investment which they are doing to be fair but we need to go further but our lack of investment in this regard for the last 20 years is hampering us.

 

I think you are jumping the gun if your implying renewables caused that blackout. Found a very informative YouTube video about the report and shows just how complicated electrical grid systems are.

 

 

Inertia is not the only thing we rely and I agree to keep looking at our grid and upgrading it but *before* adding more generators isn't good enough. It's not efficient, too risky and not ambitious enough. Under investment in this country has been a key handbrake on the country for years now and we've got to get on with stuff if we decide to do something not go in half hearted.

Non spinning generators were a large factor according to the information I’ve read on it. I’ll try and check out that video but have watched hours on the subject already so not just plucking that statement out the air! 
 

We’re pretty screwed anyway because we should have been ordering new generators about 15-20 years ago with the huge lead times. God bless the Tories…

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23 minutes ago, danny. said:

Non spinning generators were a large factor according to the information I’ve read on it. I’ll try and check out that video but have watched hours on the subject already so not just plucking that statement out the air! 
 

We’re pretty screwed anyway because we should have been ordering new generators about 15-20 years ago with the huge lead times. God bless the Tories…

 *25-35 years ago.

 

They both built lots of generators but New Labour just went on the dash for gas until the end of their term.  I always give the Tories credit for the offshore wind push they they did.

 

Both Tories and Labour ****ed up from 1990-2006 (less so after 2006 but still pretty poor) especially regarding nuclear.  Then they both started to shift but neither did enough. 

 

Hopefully SMRs can sort of be a renaissance in nuclear energy. That battery storage and optimised grid infrastructure can and will provide the inertia and flexibility we need in the system

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st albans fox

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16 hours ago, theessexfox said:

Honestly the student loan system really winds me up now I've started properly repaying it - my wealthiest peers at uni don't have any debt and so get an extra £400-£500 each month from their take-home pay vs my take home. Given it's structured as a tax, it feels unbelievably regressive that the wealthiest don't pay that tax and build up their savings much more quickly, from the good fortune of having parents who could afford to pay the fees and maintenance up front. 

Once the system of tuition fees came in, loans are the only way those without wealthy parents can afford to go. Unless you’re gong to means test fees then this is the best broad solution (the way it’s structured is rubbish though) 

 

you’ll find that on your journey through life there are lots of inconsistencies and injustice. Money makes money. Always has done and always will do. that £400 invested each month would be worth a fortune to you in thirty years ?  The interest on the loans is the main issue imo and a party that ran on a ticket of recalculating loans to remove all the interest accrued would be in a good place.  

kenny

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19 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Once the system of tuition fees came in, loans are the only way those without wealthy parents can afford to go. Unless you’re gong to means test fees then this is the best broad solution (the way it’s structured is rubbish though) 

 

you’ll find that on your journey through life there are lots of inconsistencies and injustice. Money makes money. Always has done and always will do. that £400 invested each month would be worth a fortune to you in thirty years ?  The interest on the loans is the main issue imo and a party that ran on a ticket of recalculating loans to remove all the interest accrued would be in a good place.  

Regardless of the system, the level of interest is ludicrous. I can't see any justification for it being that high.

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1 hour ago, kenny said:

Regardless of the system, the level of interest is ludicrous. I can't see any justification for it being that high.

It's a form of tax, and we need tax, like, we really need tax ATM as a country.

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11 minutes ago, danny. said:

It's a form of tax, and we need tax, like, we really need tax ATM as a country.

True, except the majority won't pay it anyway. It will be written off in most cases and be demoralising in the process.

 

Just had our first road tax bill on our EV today.

 

The amount of stealth taxation being applied at every turn is crazy.

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3 minutes ago, kenny said:

True, except the majority won't pay it anyway. It will be written off in most cases and be demoralising in the process.

 

Just had our first road tax bill on our EV today.

 

The amount of stealth taxation being applied at every turn is crazy.

Congrats! We have the pay per mile to look forwards to soon!

When I first had an EV it was emission based VED, so 0. Also BIK tax was 0%. IIRC that's up to 4% now and VED is ~£200 a year + 3ppm soon. Woo. Think I'll be back to petrol at this rate for my next car. 

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st albans fox

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37 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

BBC News - Twelve men charged with manslaughter of football fan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7438870r7j

 

Hope they make an example of the animals who did this to this poor Cambridge fan. RIP

if only they had been waving a flag (not the England or union flag) then they’d not be convicted……….

 

On a serious note, that sounds like a difficult prosecution if they’re expecting to get 12 guilty verdicts 

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15 minutes ago, danny. said:

Probably out after 9 years. And people getting 3 years for Facebook posts. This country 🤦‍♂️

Imagine what the parents must be going through in that court room. Doesn't bear thinking about. 

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st albans fox

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12 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Imagine what the parents must be going through in that court room. Doesn't bear thinking about. 

I mean wtf 

why can’t he have a whole life sentence?  There is no reason for society to have him free and being amongst us.  He is not deserving of a chance to rehabilitate.  his crimes are so heinous.  
 

im not interested in whataboutery re other offences and their sentences. I’m only interested in this monster and the fact that he should never see the light of day again. 

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On 10/02/2026 at 16:12, theessexfox said:

Honestly the student loan system really winds me up now I've started properly repaying it - my wealthiest peers at uni don't have any debt and so get an extra £400-£500 each month from their take-home pay vs my take home. Given it's structured as a tax, it feels unbelievably regressive that the wealthiest don't pay that tax and build up their savings much more quickly, from the good fortune of having parents who could afford to pay the fees and maintenance up front. 

I was fortunate in that I graduated in 2002 with £16k of debt which I repaid under much better terms. 

 

Graduates these days are battered my debt and what is effectively a 9% graduate tax for all but the richest. 

 

Even if we have to have loans to support the education sector, there was no need to sell the books to take them out of national debt, promising private firms guaranteed returns. 

 

They should be brought back into government with a 0% interest rate. Whatever you borrow, you pay back, but it gets easier and easier over time as you earn more and inflation reduces the value. 

No need for inflationary increases at all.

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47 minutes ago, danny. said:

Probably out after 9 years. And people getting 3 years for Facebook posts. This country 🤦‍♂️

For inciting violence and also released early. Let's get that right. 

 

But yes this guy is a scrote and deserves having the key thrown away. Very unlikely to be out in 9, thankfully.

 

I'm of the view that we should stop increasing the sentencing guidelines when cases like this come along, they're tough enough for ordinary crimes, but there should be more room for judges to look at cases like this and ignore those guidelines when it's clearly such a grotesque crime a harsher sentence is required, perhaps with MoJ review when used.

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8 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

For inciting violence and also released early. Let's get that right. 

 

But yes this guy is a scrote and deserves having the key thrown away. Very unlikely to be out in 9, thankfully.

 

I'm of the view that we should stop increasing the sentencing guidelines when cases like this come along, they're tough enough for ordinary crimes, but there should be more room for judges to look at cases like this and ignore those guidelines when it's clearly such a grotesque crime a harsher sentence is required, perhaps with MoJ review when used.

The fact that the judge said he didn’t consider a life sentence was appropriate says that it was available to him. I would expect the cps to appeal the sentence. 

leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqxdwlqx8qqo

 

US President Donald Trump's multi-billion dollar lawsuit against the BBC has been scheduled to go to trial in February 2027, according to court documents.

The trial date comes as a Florida judge rejected the BBC's application to delay the process of discovery in the case.

Trump is suing the BBC for defamation over the way an episode of Panorama edited two sections of a speech together, which made it appear that he had directly encouraged his supporters to storm the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.

The trial is scheduled to last two weeks and take place in Miami. A BBC spokesman said: "As we have made clear previously, we will be defending this case."

The statement added: "We are not going to make further comment on ongoing legal proceedings."

The BBC has indicated in previous filings that it will submit a motion to dismiss the case by 17 March 2026. The latest order does not impact that forthcoming filing.

 

That's a way away. Perhaps the midterms will have meant decisive action happens before then.

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