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It will be fascinating to see how history scholars view the time period 2008-2030 in a few decades time in terms of world events and actions. 

 

If there are any history scholars left by that time and the information they have a a matter of record to go on is in any way truthful, that is. 

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We've just had a lengthy piece about members of the public 'facing arrest' after tackling a bloke who dropped his trousers on the tube (since detained under the Mental Health act), the 'tackling' apparently involving a good kicking. What's going on???? We do not dwell on the fact that they've not been arrested or charged at this point.

 

There's A LOT of adverts, and it's painfully obvious that a lot of the usual big advertisers won't touch this shit with a barge pole.

 

There's no HD option on Freeview so it feels like watching Sky News in about 1998. Also, the audio and video are slightly out of sync which adds to the weird cobbled together feel 

 

Going on about asylum seekers now. In fairness, they're interviewing a bloke from a charity that supports them, although the presenter made a couple of odd noises when he said there's a lot of misinformation on the subject before not commenting on that point

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30 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Water itself is not wet, it makes other things wet.

 

As you were.

Moist 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great word, isn't it? lol

 

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3 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Moist 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great word, isn't it? lol

 

I'm a woman, therefore it is one of my favourite words lol

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More farmers lamenting alternating drought and flooding conditions in the UK on the news.

 

Perhaps don't opt for policymakers who do nothing or not enough on the matter, then?

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45 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It will be fascinating to see how history scholars view the time period 2008-2030 in a few decades time in terms of world events and actions. 

 

If there are any history scholars left by that time and the information they have a a matter of record to go on is in any way truthful, that is. 

Everything really did start to go to shit after the complete failure to hold anyone accountable for the banking crisis didn't it?

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39 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

More farmers lamenting alternating drought and flooding conditions in the UK on the news.

 

Perhaps don't opt for policymakers who do nothing or not enough on the matter, then?

But immigrants!?!?

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

More farmers lamenting alternating drought and flooding conditions in the UK on the news.

 

Perhaps don't opt for policymakers who do nothing or not enough on the matter, then?

I don’t think that’s quite within farmers control to dictate global climate change policy - they’ve been royally bent over by the current regime as it is

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47 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Everything really did start to go to shit after the complete failure to hold anyone accountable for the banking crisis didn't it?

Seems to be the case, yeah. 

 

Tbh considering the history of such economic downturn and what tends to follow them, it's a rather macabre blessing that things haven't gotten more major warfare wise tbh. 

 

For the time being, anyway. 

 

25 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

But immigrants!?!?

And driving straight towards a situation where there is a massive shortage of arable land and potable water resources that lend itself to massive amounts of at least regional instability will really help with that problem, won't it?

 

2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I don’t think that’s quite within farmers control to dictate global climate change policy - they’ve been royally bent over by the current regime as it is

They have the same power as anyone else not directly in the political system with respect to science and foreign policy in the UK - one vote. 

 

Even just in the name of self-interest, they have to know that ignoring the problem isn't going to make it go away and it has the potential to render every other measure to help them utterly meaningless.

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3 hours ago, The Doctor said:

right, at risk of being dismissed as an out there communist (my politics are more anarchist in nature), that definition applies to the police and the military. Are police forces and the military then state sponsored terrorism? If not, then there has to be more to it than just the definition as to whether a group are considered terrorists or not, and all indications around this are that that more to it is simply the UK government outraged that it's allies are being questioned over significant human rights abuses, and it's role in those abuses is also being questioned. That's not keeping us safe, that's authoritarianism

If you do not like our state and it's laws, there are others that may suit your preferences better.

 

Give me our laws and their enforcers over anarchy and the destruction the follows any day.

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2 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Shame PA didn't take that option 

a couple of individuals didn't, PA as a whole did a lot of blockading. If we're judging by a few bad members then it's long past time to ban the Met Police (but again, it's not considered the same because of the states monopoly on violence, and the police are effectively an occupying army to enforce that)

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Just now, kenny said:

If you do not like our state and it's laws, there are others that may suit your preferences better.

 

Give me our laws and their enforcers over anarchy and the destruction the follows any day.

I don't think there's a single state that a) doesn't exist and b) supports pinata economics (we beat the rich with sticks until they give their money back to the people they stole it from) so I doubt that

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Just now, The Doctor said:

I don't think there's a single state that a) doesn't exist and b) supports pinata economics (we beat the rich with sticks until they give their money back to the people they stole it from) so I doubt that

Probably not. Unfortunately the real world gets in the way of most of our fantasies.

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2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

a couple of individuals didn't, PA as a whole did a lot of blockading. If we're judging by a few bad members then it's long past time to ban the Met Police (but again, it's not considered the same because of the states monopoly on violence, and the police are effectively an occupying army to enforce that)

Would you contact your local police if you were a victim of crime?

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2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

a couple of individuals didn't, PA as a whole did a lot of blockading. If we're judging by a few bad members then it's long past time to ban the Met Police (but again, it's not considered the same because of the states monopoly on violence, and the police are effectively an occupying army to enforce that)

But it’s OK for many government officials including the PM to label most protesters as Far right? 

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6 minutes ago, kenny said:

Probably not. Unfortunately the real world gets in the way of most of our fantasies.

It does indeed. 

 

The laws of thermodynamics being one key example some people appear to want to fantasise about/ignore.

 

And to keep things on topic, I refer to that only because at this time it makes the necessary point that everyone is a hypocrite in this particular regard. It's just that some hypocrisy is more damaging to the future than others. 

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39 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Would you contact your local police if you were a victim of crime?

what would be the point? depending on the crime they'd either ignore it or turn up 5 hours later to look at me for 5 seconds, tut and give me a reference number for something they'll never investigate 

 

39 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

But it’s OK for many government officials including the PM to label most protesters as Far right? 

I think that's hypocritical given Starmers government is far right tbqh

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Seems to be the case, yeah. 

 

Tbh considering the history of such economic downturn and what tends to follow them, it's a rather macabre blessing that things haven't gotten more major warfare wise tbh. 

 

For the time being, anyway. 

 

And driving straight towards a situation where there is a massive shortage of arable land and potable water resources that lend itself to massive amounts of at least regional instability will really help with that problem, won't it?

 

They have the same power as anyone else not directly in the political system with respect to science and foreign policy in the UK - one vote. 

 

Even just in the name of self-interest, they have to know that ignoring the problem isn't going to make it go away and it has the potential to render every other measure to help them utterly meaningless.

Don’t think they are ignoring the problem? You are speaking on behalf of all farmers in the UK here. Be interesting to see what you are doing day in day out to combat climate change apart from make statements on a football forum crowing at everyone else. 

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46 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Would you contact your local police if you were a victim of crime?

Tried that many times, the only time I got some response was when I got lawyers involved and threatened to sue them and my local MP, for ignoring the crimes against me.

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7 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

what would be the point? depending on the crime they'd either ignore it or turn up 5 hours later to look at me for 5 seconds, tut and give me a reference number for something they'll never investigate 

 

I think that's hypocritical given Starmers government is far right tbqh

Being cynical is one thing but must be utterly miserable being so sour

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