Marti Cifuentes appointed new manager

[Richmondfox]

4 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

I think Martí must now see that many of our established pros can’t be trusted. They’ve let him down in consecutive games. Against Charlton I think he should play Aluko in one of the full back roles, Nelson in central defence and get Page to play the Soumare role. I’d also bring Alves and Evans back on to the bench. Play the kids Marti. 

I want to believe this but if he starts Soumare and Ayew next game then he is another useless manager.  Do we even have a technical analysis team? 

[MGLCFC]

2 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

I want to believe this but if he starts Soumare and Ayew next game then he is another useless manager.  Do we even have a technical analysis team? 

So it's Daka to start then? 

[Richmondfox]

1 minute ago, MGLCFC said:

So it's Daka to start then? 

Yes, or Mavadidi, or give him instructions and if he doesn’t stick to it drag him off.  Unless the manager actually gets some tactics across to the players, he is nothing but a part time babysitter.  He couldn’t have been happy with Ayews set pieces, or him constantly killing any attack by holding onto the ball, dropping deep and looking to fall over, never bringing anyone into the games.  I find it hard to believe that him and his team don’t already know the limitations of JJ, Soumare, Skipp, Ayew and Daka. 
 

 

If the manager can see the problems, can’t fix it on the training ground and continues to let it happen on the pitch then he is a useless manager.  I will give him a few more games but so far I’m not seeing anything from him and don’t believe he has anything about him.  I couldn’t be more than to be proven wrong by results, I don’t care about others thinking I’m saying this too early, give him time etc. The warning signs for Cooper were obvious in preseason, after the first two Ruud games the same. 

[funkyrobot]

4 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Yes, or Mavadidi, or give him instructions and if he doesn’t stick to it drag him off.  Unless the manager actually gets some tactics across to the players, he is nothing but a part time babysitter.  He couldn’t have been happy with Ayews set pieces, or him constantly killing any attack by holding onto the ball, dropping deep and looking to fall over, never bringing anyone into the games.  I find it hard to believe that him and his team don’t already know the limitations of JJ, Soumare, Skipp, Ayew and Daka. 
 

 

If the manager can see the problems, can’t fix it on the training ground and continues to let it happen on the pitch then he is a useless manager.  I will give him a few more games but so far I’m not seeing anything from him and don’t believe he has anything about him.  I couldn’t be more than to be proven wrong by results, I don’t care about others thinking I’m saying this too early, give him time etc. The warning signs for Cooper were obvious in preseason, after the first two Ruud games the same. 

Daka is not fixing any problems anytime soon. Cifuentes has terrible options in the central attacking position, terrible options in central midfield, terrible options in defence. Virtually every  position is considerably weaker than the team Enzo had 2 years ago. Unless something is done in the market, Cifuentes can only chuck the kids in. 

[MGLCFC]

13 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

Yes, or Mavadidi, or give him instructions and if he doesn’t stick to it drag him off.  Unless the manager actually gets some tactics across to the players, he is nothing but a part time babysitter.  He couldn’t have been happy with Ayews set pieces, or him constantly killing any attack by holding onto the ball, dropping deep and looking to fall over, never bringing anyone into the games.  I find it hard to believe that him and his team don’t already know the limitations of JJ, Soumare, Skipp, Ayew and Daka. 
 

 

If the manager can see the problems, can’t fix it on the training ground and continues to let it happen on the pitch then he is a useless manager.  I will give him a few more games but so far I’m not seeing anything from him and don’t believe he has anything about him.  I couldn’t be more than to be proven wrong by results, I don’t care about others thinking I’m saying this too early, give him time etc. The warning signs for Cooper were obvious in preseason, after the first two Ruud games the same. 

I agree Ayew was poor yesterday, set pieces were naff, but there are limited options for the manager with how this squad is applying itself. He's got a midfield that's got no creativity or forward thinking, full backs that are limited - I'm sure he's aware of all the points you make, but unless he's backed in the transfer window, he'll have a pack of cards that contain no aces. There are too many players in the squad that either think they are too good to play at this level, aren't good enough to play at this level, aren't performing or who want to leave. But if you take these out, he's probably got half a dozen players who deserve to start.

Edited 17 August 2025 by MGLCFC

[HankMarvin]

9 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

Daka is not fixing any problems anytime soon. Cifuentes has terrible options in the central attacking position, terrible options in central midfield, terrible options in defence. Virtually every  position is considerably weaker than the team Enzo had 2 years ago. Unless something is done in the market, Cifuentes can only chuck the kids in. 

2 pony strikers but what about trying something else 

maybe trying young players like Monga or Fatty who are both clearly talented has to be better than persisting with players like Daka and Ayew.

Both Monga and Fatty have proved they have a eye for goal, playing them in a central role could solve our issue.

In fact I wouldn’t even be adverse to trying a front 2 of Evans and Daka in the hope he stretches play if needs must.

[RedSoxUK]

47 minutes ago, Richmondfox said:

I want to believe this but if he starts Soumare and Ayew next game then he is another useless manager.  Do we even have a technical analysis team? 

Okay and if they technically analyse by saying what exactly, "oh yeah Martì, what you want is Daka and Braybrooke" behave, they'd be sectioned.

[Richmondfox]

All valid points but it is just the same old same old from another manager. Let the players get on with it. And the same old cope from the fans.

[TamuffFox]

19 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

 

Both Monga and *Fatty* have proved they have a eye for goal, playing them in a central role could solve our issue.

GTF back on a short term deal?

[stox259]

If I was manager I’d be saying to Daka, Soumare, Souttar, Skip and others you’re not part of my squad. You’re not good enough.  You can’t train at the fancy training ground. If you want to play football you have to look for a move.
 

Fair play to Enzo and Pearson back in the day. They forced squad changes. That’s the type of manager we needed. We have to force players to either not play and train or find a move. Fair too easy for players to pick up massive wages, train at one of the worlds best training facilities and still play and be no where near the standard this club needs. 

[westernpark]

3 minutes ago, stox259 said:

If I was manager I’d be saying to Daka, Soumare, Souttar, Skip and others you’re not part of my squad. You’re not good enough.  You can’t train at the fancy training ground. If you want to play football you have to look for a move.
 

Fair play to Enzo and Pearson back in the day. They forced squad changes. That’s the type of manager we needed. We have to force players to either not play and train or find a move. Fair too easy for players to pick up massive wages, train at one of the worlds best training facilities and still play and be no where near the standard this club needs. 

Bit harsh on Souttar. 

[Lambert09]

Really hope Marti is a good manager because he gets it! 
 

Some of our players need to give their heads a wobble 

[wardyfox86]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

Really hope Marti is a good manager because he gets it! 
 

Some of our players need to give their heads a wobble 

Hopefully he can smack that kind of attitude into some of the players who seem to be of the opinion that we, as fans, must be blindly positive in order for them to put in decent performances.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Funny that some of the names mentioned in the last few pages were bought to enables us to kick on and consolidate top 6/European football, and they’re currently not good enough for the Championship 🤣 

 

We’ll be talking about this for years in the way Peter Taylor’s signings are still mentioned now.

[ithuriel]

With the better players being sold and no new outfield players thus far, it does make you wonder if he is regretting his decision to come here, not that he can do anything about it now.

[CornwallFox]

4 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Funny that some of the names mentioned in the last few pages were bought to enables us to kick on and consolidate top 6/European football, and they’re currently not good enough for the Championship 🤣 

 

We’ll be talking about this for years in the way Peter Taylor’s signings are still mentioned now.

The list of crap we've bought on huge wages is ridiculous. 

Should be doing a Brighton - find young talent for decent cost and wages ,loan it out to get experience, then play them in the team, then sell for huge money before their wage demands get too big. 

Instead we've paid huge wages for untested players and been unable to get rid when they've failed. 

[Lad1966]

We need to get rid of the crap first. Going forward that’s what we should be doing, but we need to the infrastructure in place, scouting, analysis etc. I would be willing to be patient, if the board would communicate this to the fans …… but, they are idiots who are too arrogant to understand

[wardyfox86]

19 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The list of crap we've bought on huge wages is ridiculous. 

Should be doing a Brighton - find young talent for decent cost and wages ,loan it out to get experience, then play them in the team, then sell for huge money before their wage demands get too big. 

Instead we've paid huge wages for untested players and been unable to get rid when they've failed. 

We have great young talent already at the club, coming through the academy. We should be playing them as much as possible.

 

They probably won't get us promoted but it'll drive their price up and show potential new players that there's a genuine pathway.

 

It's trendy to be all doom and gloom at the minute, but we might be starting to see the fruits of our labour from Seagrave. They might not all be Jeremy Monga but if we can change some of these players we release on a free, to even £1m/£2m players then its a positive to build on.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

40 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The list of crap we've bought on huge wages is ridiculous. 

Should be doing a Brighton - find young talent for decent cost and wages ,loan it out to get experience, then play them in the team, then sell for huge money before their wage demands get too big. 

Instead we've paid huge wages for untested players and been unable to get rid when they've failed. 

The moment we changed course from doing that and tried to sign ‘established quality players’ it went tits up big time.

 

We really need to have a full on inquest into this because it could set us back many years. Who knows how long. 

[Foxdiamond]

23 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said:

We have great young talent already at the club, coming through the academy. We should be playing them as much as possible.

 

They probably won't get us promoted but it'll drive their price up and show potential new players that there's a genuine pathway.

 

It's trendy to be all doom and gloom at the minute, but we might be starting to see the fruits of our labour from Seagrave. They might not all be Jeremy Monga but if we can change some of these players we release on a free, to even £1m/£2m players then its a positive to build on.

I sincerely hope the young players are as good will be as we seem to think they are

[Richmondfox]

11 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I sincerely hope the young players are as good will be as we seem to think they are

Knowing our luck it’s the useless donkeys in our squad that are making them look amazing. 😂

[JimJams]

22 hours ago, stox259 said:

If I was manager I’d be saying to Daka, Soumare, Souttar, Skip and others you’re not part of my squad. You’re not good enough.  You can’t train at the fancy training ground. If you want to play football you have to look for a move.
 

Fair play to Enzo and Pearson back in the day. They forced squad changes. That’s the type of manager we needed. We have to force players to either not play and train or find a move. Fair too easy for players to pick up massive wages, train at one of the worlds best training facilities and still play and be no where near the standard this club needs. 

So what you're saying is you'd sideline half the squad. Brilliant. Given nobody wants them and we're not buying players in you'd be struggling to field a side on match days.

[jv1]

I wonder if we are pretty much at the point where starting the youth and potentially still losing some games gets him more good will than continuing to play the players we can’t stand 

 

If the more experienced absolute chancers can’t win games at this level - the likes of 

 

Justin , hamza, Thomas , vesty , Okoli , soumare , faes , skipp , winks etc etc 

 

would he get more of the fans completely behind him and ultimately the team if he just banished them all and started 

 

Monga, Nelson , aluko, alves , page , evans etc etc and get 4 young loan players in 

 

We might be worse - it’s definitely a possibility- although who knows as the current lot are absolutely cr*ap anyway and would the results dictate the feelings or would seeing a young team instead of the swap scum unite the fan base ?

 

would he instantly get the fans behind him and the team - I think it would be brave but can’t see it 

[Foxin_Mad]

3 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

 

 

We’ll be talking about this for years in the way Peter Taylor’s signings are still mentioned now.

Thing is with Tata Pelers team, as shit as some of them were you could never accuse them of not trying. I remember big Trev working his socks off. 

[jmono84]

The position of our players for Prestons second was amateur level stuff