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19 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

The atmosphere is a direct reflection of the apathetic decisions that have been made by basically every key stakeholder in this business in the last 4 years or so. Like it or not it started when Top was too much of a pussy to sack his best pal Brendan after Forest, Brighton, Spurs, Brentford, take your pick. We have never truly recovered from that catastrophic season. 

 

We had a brief upturn when Enzo made an effort to engage with the fan base (Although his football was sometimes stale which created a flat atmosphere), but on the whole the atmosphere has a direct correlation with the trajectory of the football club. 

We are not a serious business and that flows through to the matchday experience. There is nothing to get excited about. The football is boring, the pints are expensive, the food is getting worse, the queues are inexplicable given the stadium doesn't even sell out, the forced nature of e-ticketing, the banning of fans for literally no reason, the caracture matchday presenter, the light shows, the clappers.

 

This coupled with the lack of accountability anywhere in the club for 4 years now has worn thin and people are fed up. 

This is spot on ! 
We’re a reflection of the current ownership - not bothered or interested 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

I knew it was going to be flat when it's a Saturday night game and there was about 6 people boozing outside F Bar.

 

Where else in the country would you find a run down, typical match day boozer that close to the ground that is so empty? 

 

Not saying that particular place is amazing, but it sums up the cliental that go to our games and in turn effects the atmosphere. 

Nothing to do with the clientele in my opinion. What would happen if the club came out with a positive statement of real intent this week and fighting talk of getting back to the top league with talk of having a right go if we got there, we need the fans support to help us. Do you not think the atmosphere would change ? 
it’s not rocket science ! 
Communication is none existent ! 
That’s not the fans fault you have to give them something to get excited about and that comes from the Top literally ! 

Posted
17 hours ago, GrobyLCFC31 said:

Not to mention getting searched on the way in (East Stand near the kop) 

Security all around the pitch on 85 minutes for no reason

 

And traffic bollards outside GoKidsGo delaying everyone on the way back to Aylestone Lane/Saffron Road for no reason! 
 

Just little things that wind fans up, but they don’t care

The bollards will be down to the enactment of Martins Law.

 

Expect to see them more often at crowded events.

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Posted (edited)

I think the club have effectively priced out a lot of the fans who would make the noise as it's too expensive and too difficult to get tickets. 

 

Often back in the day you'd make a last minute decision to go, and often it would be the same for hundreds if not thousands of others and pack the pens and it was a case of you were expected to get behind the lads and it was infectious. 

 

Now the place is full of soft sods who are either on their phones & / or have no real passion for the club 

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Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

I don't go to home games to sing. Never really have and that goes for 90% of fans of every club. English football is just different to continental football support. The majority of people can't be arsed with jumping up and down for 90 minutes singing woaah woaah ad nauseam along to a drummer.

 

I think the best English atmospheres are where the crowd are all fully engrossed in the game. Roaring on the winger when he's given the ball in space, jumpnig up and punching the air when theres a big tackle, that collecting "COME ON" when we get a corner etc. The best atmosphere i've seen in the last few years was that Leeds away game where their fans essentially sucked the ball into the net while our team just folded under the pressure.

 

You don't get any of that these days at the KP. People are turning up to catch up with their mates, sitting on their phones, leaving early to get a pint at half time and again to beat the full time rush. I can't really remember the last time where it felt as though there were 29,000 Leicester fans completely engrossed in the game and I think you can put the blame on the fact that this team is so deeply unlikeable and play football in a dull way.

 

There's never been a good atmosphere at a Leicester game in which we haven't played well. The atmosphere has always been dictated by whats happening on the pitch and for years now we've been served up absolute muck. Barring good nights like the Southampton 5-0 the atmosphere and 'old school' feel of supporting your team hasn't been there for absolutely ages now. It's all watered down corporate mush.

Some very good points here. I think in life generally there is so much information overload people aren’t engrossed fully in anything.
How many people can watch a TV programme for an hour without being distracted by their phone or other device repeatedly? It’s a good job you can rewind TV now.

The Portsmouth game had a feel to an early round FA Cup fixture to me. A dead atmosphere and it was very noticeable there were a fair few new people around, which is great. But they spent lots of the game up and down, coming back with boxes of foot long hot dogs or whatever they were, taking selfies in the aisles in big groups and filming most of the game. Seemed to be a few organised tourist groups, engaged more in just being there as vloggers and the focus being them, not the game. 
Of course people can do what they want at a game, just as the perpetual late arrivers and early leavers can.

But you’re right. The problem with atmosphere is a lot deeper than just singing.  

 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

Some very good points here. I think in life generally there is so much information overload people aren’t engrossed fully in anything.
How many people can watch a TV programme for an hour without being distracted by their phone or other device repeatedly? It’s a good job you can rewind TV now.

The Portsmouth game had a feel to an early round FA Cup fixture to me. A dead atmosphere and it was very noticeable there were a fair few new people around, which is great. But they spent lots of the game up and down, coming back with boxes of foot long hot dogs or whatever they were, taking selfies in the aisles in big groups and filming most of the game. Seemed to be a few organised tourist groups, engaged more in just being there as vloggers and the focus being them, not the game. 
Of course people can do what they want at a game, just as the perpetual late arrivers and early leavers can.

But you’re right. The problem with atmosphere is a lot deeper than just singing.  

 

You say that but the ultra scene around the world has never been bigger.

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Posted

We'd be completely lost without the singing section, but there are far too many people in there that just want to be closer to the little atmosphere we do have, rather than to actually contribute to it.

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The reality on Friday was that Portsmouth were creating 95% of the atmosphere. If we could have got behind the team at 1-1 then it might have made a positive impact on the players & momentum of the game. It's become chicken & egg though as fans are waiting to be entertained. We feel like the players owe us something before we are able to support them properly again.

 

It all feeds into the toxicity around the club which will only be dealt with properly under new club leadership.

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Posted
1 hour ago, rugbyblue said:

Absolutely. Its excuses.  Just sing.  If you dont want to,  just admit it rather than blame everything from Top to the sponsor, to the style of football to traffic cones (all of which ive read on here). Its ridiculous.

 

Its fck all to do with clubs current situation.  Its possible to not like the owner and still want OUR team to win and to enjoy yourself at games. I wanted atmosphere at football and contributed the same when we were sh*t in league 1 as when we were premier league champions.  Excuses excuses.

 

 

So both seasons we were champions, probably not the best examples to be fair :D 

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

We give ourselves too many excuses. It seems like we will always be silent unless you create the perfect cocktail of circumstances for it to be decent. 

 

There’s a lot you can attribute to the club, but our fans cannot be arsed. That’s all there is to it. 
 

There’s nothing to stop people opening their gob. Who else has a “Kop” that actively opposes tifos and makes less noise than the family stand? 

The ‘Kop’ was OK between 06-12ish when there was the back 4 or 5 rows across the whole stand and a concentration in SK1 and SK2 that went almost halfway down who were always vocal and stood most of the game. 
 

Most of these, like myself were male between the ages of 16-40ish but now it seems this is no longer the case. 
 

The lower half of our ‘Kop’ has been very quiet and mostly families and older people since we moved over from Filbert street. I’m not saying this is a bad thing but it’s the polar opposite to Elland road, White Hart Lane or even Forest. 
 

I remember the upper tier of the double decker at Filbert street being very vocal and then the lower tier again being mostly families and older people, this seems to have carried over. 

 

Just observations, I don’t know how we solve it. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

The ‘Kop’ was OK between 06-12ish when there was the back 4 or 5 rows across the whole stand and a concentration in SK1 and SK2 that went almost halfway down who were always vocal and stood most of the game. 
 

Most of these, like myself were male between the ages of 16-40ish but now it seems this is no longer the case. 
 

The lower half of our ‘Kop’ has been very quiet and mostly families and older people since we moved over from Filbert street. I’m not saying this is a bad thing but it’s the polar opposite to Elland road, White Hart Lane or even Forest. 
 

I remember the upper tier of the double decker at Filbert street being very vocal and then the lower tier again being mostly families and older people, this seems to have carried over. 

 

Just observations, I don’t know how we solve it. 

I think the club have done an excellent job in attracting the sort of clientele they want whilst pushing out those they don't.

 

We're not alone there of course its been happening for 30 years to every club in England.

 

 

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Posted
53 minutes ago, filbertway said:

So both seasons we were champions, probably not the best examples to be fair :D 

 

 

Your trying to be clever for likes and attention mate. You know the  point im making 

Posted
3 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

We're just a 'nice' club. There's hardly any edge or passion. 

 

The fact we don't have people holding Top and co to account is the problem. If they're not giving us anything to get excited about then why do we just accept it? 

 

The majority of our fans just simply don't have the passion for it. 

 

Your right their giving us zero excitement 

We accept it because we have fans who think “oh well what can you do” and we have too many ass Khun Top ass lickers. If the empty seats continue maybe we’ll get somewhere 

Posted
55 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

You say that but the ultra scene around the world has never been bigger.

Yes fair point. I was just replying to the specific point raised that it isn’t just about  singing. So many of our fans are just not fully engaged with the game or team, which also doesn’t help atmosphere. The game is just a side show to some. 
More generally to your point, clubs in England, especially at the higher levels, are more anti-ultra culture right?

The continued sanitisation and preference for the higher value, safe, middle class tourist customer. The obsession with knowing exactly who is inside the ground and ticket pricing generally here. Strict regulations inside grounds which mean you might get banned for just standing near a pyro. Plus club-led displays rather than embracing fan led ones, which add to the sanitisation.

Just lots of other underlying issues here, which add to the difficulty, alongside people not singing.

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Posted
59 minutes ago, rugbyblue said:

Your trying to be clever for likes and attention mate. You know the  point im making 

Just observing that you were giving it the biggun about being loud during 2 of our most successful seasons lol

 

It'd have carried far more weight if you'd said you giving it the beans between 2005-2007.

 

I appreciate the compliment though

Posted
5 hours ago, daddylonglegs said:

The atmosphere is a direct reflection of the apathetic decisions that have been made by basically every key stakeholder in this business in the last 4 years or so. Like it or not it started when Top was too much of a pussy to sack his best pal Brendan after Forest, Brighton, Spurs, Brentford, take your pick. We have never truly recovered from that catastrophic season. 

 

We had a brief upturn when Enzo made an effort to engage with the fan base (Although his football was sometimes stale which created a flat atmosphere), but on the whole the atmosphere has a direct correlation with the trajectory of the football club. 

We are not a serious business and that flows through to the matchday experience. There is nothing to get excited about. The football is boring, the pints are expensive, the food is getting worse, the queues are inexplicable given the stadium doesn't even sell out, the forced nature of e-ticketing, the banning of fans for literally no reason, the caracture matchday presenter, the light shows, the clappers.

 

This coupled with the lack of accountability anywhere in the club for 4 years now has worn thin and people are fed up. 

Absolutely bang on this. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, kenny said:

The bollards will be down to the enactment of Martins Law.

 

Expect to see them more often at crowded events.

These are really frustrating are they ‘diversity barriers?’ 

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Posted
3 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

I think the club have done an excellent job in attracting the sort of clientele they want whilst pushing out those they don't.

 

We're not alone there of course its been happening for 30 years to every club in England.

 

 

100%. There is no way our support is authentically this bad. I'm not having it.

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@AKCJ has hit the problem specifically. Our crowd are just not engaged. Not about singing non-stop but being constantly involved, every little thing cheered or applauded. Too many are just there and offering nothing.

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Moved away after having a ST for 35 years(Pleat,Rob kelly,levien,Pearson,Megson, etc etc)I'm just glad i lived the good times.....PL,Europe,FA Cup..............the club now is unrecognisable to me.At least in the Shipman years we knew we were shit!The worst thing for me is the so called "supporters".....If Top shat on their bed they would get their clappers out!To be honest i'm glad i'm out of going to games,i thought i'd miss it but i don't.........still keep an eye on the city but non league is for me now.

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