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12 hours ago, Spanner73 said:

I’d take Mandaric back over this clueless clown we’ve got. 

87 year old Mandaric? Interesting choice. 

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10 minutes ago, Monk said:

87 year old Mandaric? Interesting choice. 

I understand that but surely you can see the effect KP is having on us. 

We talk here about atmosphere home or away and how we can make it better. Yet it’s got nothing to do with with banners or clappers it comes down to if fans feel good and confident. 
 

That tells a story within itself and the confidence amongst the fans is shot to pieces because they don’t feel involved because the club is a closed shop with nobody allowed in. The club doesn’t speak and neither do they care about communication, however what they don’t realise is that the connection between the club and its fan base is absolutely vital to a feel good factor. 
 

Personally I don’t feel any connection to the club and have felt that way for quite a while now I feel totally disconnected from the club I love and that’s down to the owners. 

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On 12/09/2025 at 15:31, PaulW said:

Errr...they don't have to.  Maybe, just maybe players within the Club, past and present, know a tinsy bit more about what goes on, rather than the bitter entitled people on here who don't remeber the days of 9,000 attending matches in the days of the old div. 2.

Having expectations of your club is now being "entitled". Unbelievable scenes. 

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36 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

Mandaric's tenure was an absolute basket case. Relegation to League One for the first time ever, open warfare between him and a manager he hired just weeks before, scattergun recruitment based on absolutely nothing concrete that went entirely over the manager's head.

 

What we have now is not perfect but the transfer window we have now at least shows signs that the club knows what it wants to do to comply with PSR and rebuild.

 

There are loads of things it could improve on and, yes, there are likely to be a number of better prospective owners out there. But there are loads, loads worse. Mandaric was one of them without a shadow of a doubt.

Scattergun approach to transfers 


Owner not listening to Managers requirements over transfers ie Cooper Rodgers and RVN 

 

Over paying players and long contracts 

 

Debt over several seasons 

 

No plan 


No communication with the fans 

 

Disruptive players like JV still here after all of this time after being abandoned to the 21,s after bust ups with Rodgers several years ago now and again with RVN respectively yet he’s still here ??? Unbelievable !!
 

Same with Winks ! 
 

And yet they’ll say I wonder why LCFC has a Black cloud over it 

 

And where does all the uncertainty come from ? 
 

it’s all from the Top literally !! 
 

An owner that is out of his depth, doesn’t care, Totally disinterested and wants to play on his polo horse but will buy you a donut for the misery he causes 

 

Sell the club and go !!! 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

I wasn't saying that there aren't problems with King Power. There are, there really are.

 

But Mandaric was a different kettle of fish and was so incredibly amateurish in comparison.

 

This iteration of King Power since Vichai's passing has made a lot of mistakes. In fact, I don't think we've ever really had a coherent plan for running the club where a manager fits into the system rather than the manager dictating what the system will be. And, yes, even though the different managers has meant we've swung from one approach to the other in terms of style of play and recruitment, we have also then, at times, recruited badly for those managers.

 

But, for me, this current malaise still stems from the approach made under Rodgers. We abandoned the sell-to-buy policy so Rodgers could push, we maxed out our wage bill (and more) and watched assets depreciate, the squad stagnated and had no fresh injection of quality as we recruited badly to fill out the squad. We pandered to Rodgers and paid him too much as he hung on and we hung on in order to save a few million quid and avoid PSR issues. In the end, we pulled the trigger, meaning we lost yet more money, did it far too late so we had a poor choice of managers to recruit from with very little time to turn things around, and then got relegated, spent too much in the Championship and the problems kept being pushed further down the road.

 

King Power have loads to answer for. They have 100% made very costly errors. But this summer window is a glimmer of hope that they know how to turn things around. It remains to be seen whether they can do it, especially with it now being so difficult to become an established Premier League club again. They may not be able to. There may be things down the line that prove my optimism in them to be utterly misguided.

 

But, I think, short of running the club into the ground and winding it up, or relegating us back to League One, there isn't much I think King Power can do to convince me that they're worse than Milan Mandaric. We were a laughing stock under him. Under King Power, we're a bit shady, we've made mistakes, but we are a serious outfit - just about :thumbup:

Fair points ! 👍

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On 12/09/2025 at 16:30, gurru991 said:

The problem with Top selling the club is that you're rolling the dice hoping to get better owners but the truth is the next owners could be much worse.

He's one of the worst performing owners in the country. He's setting an incredibly low bar for the next owners.

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58 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

I wasn't saying that there aren't problems with King Power. There are, there really are.

 

But Mandaric was a different kettle of fish and was so incredibly amateurish in comparison.

 

This iteration of King Power since Vichai's passing has made a lot of mistakes. In fact, I don't think we've ever really had a coherent plan for running the club where a manager fits into the system rather than the manager dictating what the system will be. And, yes, even though the different managers has meant we've swung from one approach to the other in terms of style of play and recruitment, we have also then, at times, recruited badly for those managers.

 

But, for me, this current malaise still stems from the approach made under Rodgers. We abandoned the sell-to-buy policy so Rodgers could push, we maxed out our wage bill (and more) and watched assets depreciate, the squad stagnated and had no fresh injection of quality as we recruited badly to fill out the squad. We pandered to Rodgers and paid him too much as he hung on and we hung on in order to save a few million quid and avoid PSR issues. In the end, we pulled the trigger, meaning we lost yet more money, did it far too late so we had a poor choice of managers to recruit from with very little time to turn things around, and then got relegated, spent too much in the Championship and the problems kept being pushed further down the road.

 

King Power have loads to answer for. They have 100% made very costly errors. But this summer window is a glimmer of hope that they know how to turn things around. It remains to be seen whether they can do it, especially with it now being so difficult to become an established Premier League club again. They may not be able to. There may be things down the line that prove my optimism in them to be utterly misguided.

 

But, I think, short of running the club into the ground and winding it up, or relegating us back to League One, there isn't much I think King Power can do to convince me that they're worse than Milan Mandaric. We were a laughing stock under him. Under King Power, we're a bit shady, we've made mistakes, but we are a serious outfit - just about :thumbup:

Great post, and whilst I’m as annoyed and disillusioned as many posting in this thread I’m far from convinced we’d be better off with a new owner. And so much of what we are living with now is the hangover from Rogers. 

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14 minutes ago, Monk said:

Great post, and whilst I’m as annoyed and disillusioned as many posting in this thread I’m far from convinced we’d be better off with a new owner. And so much of what we are living with now is the hangover from Rogers. 

I’ll sit on the fence with Rodgers as he was treated the same as RVN and Cooper when it came to recruitment they can’t all be wrong ! 
 

it’s not just the communication with the fans, look how they treated Ruud. So unprofessional they didn’t speak to him. 
 

The snails pace of several transfer windows until this summer was with all three of them so in terms of that nothing much had changed and if Rogers was at fault why has it taken all this several years to move players on. 
 

When it comes to KP there’s always someone else to blame
 

 

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Just now, Fox92 said:

Quite. King Power came in and forced Pearson out and their chosen manager, Sousa, had us in a relegation battle. Without Pearson coming back King Power would have spent all their time with us as a mid table Championship club. They owe Pearson a lot.

It would have been even worse than that. If we failed to go up we'd have had all sorts of FFP problems.

 

We threw more money at it than Derby did and look how they turned out.

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2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Having expectations of your club is now being "entitled". Unbelievable scenes. 

 

I love that some sections of the fanbase like to give it the old "erm I was actually there in the old days, you don't know how good you've got it!" as if the club's lowest point wasn't in 2008

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3 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

It would have been even worse than that. If we failed to go up we'd have had all sorts of FFP problems.

 

We threw more money at it than Derby did and look how they turned out.

They just waited well Top did for us to be in the Premier League to screw us over with FFP/PSR. Letting rubbish come through the door on massive contracts.

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Posted
16 hours ago, Spanner73 said:

I’d take Mandaric back over this clueless clown we’ve got. 

I’m far from being a KPFC happy clapper but come on now.

Posted
39 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Both Mandaric and King Power relied on Pearson and his team to save both tenures from utter disaster

Yes ! 

 

And it shows what an incredible job Nigel and his team did. 

 

Everything that guy built has been smashed to smithereens by the incompetent, dumb and dumber upstairs
 

 

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28 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

There is hope that with the summer just gone that Top is learning. 

I’m not sure on that, lts took him years to act and I understand that he was left in a difficult position after his dad but any businessman worth their salt can see you when your losing millions of pounds every year you need to do something quickly. 
 

Everything with King power whether it’s our club or King power duty free is reactive not proactive. They only do something when it has to be done.

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54 minutes ago, sharpylcfc said:

They just waited well Top did for us to be in the Premier League to screw us over with FFP/PSR. Letting rubbish come through the door on massive contracts.

When you look at what Pearson and Steve Walsh did it was unbelievable really. It would have been easiest thing in the world for a new manager to come in and carry on the destructive spending of Sven. He got rid of egos, bought the right characters and sorted so much mess.

 

He goes and bar the short period under Puel where the scouting was superb, Top put too much of the success down to Rudkin. Believed in him and this is our outcome. 

 

This is exactly why I will argue with anyone who says the owners have been good from a decision making point of view. They just haven't. We couldn't have done it without them but that doesn't mean it's been some masterclass in ownership. 

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25 minutes ago, Spanner73 said:

I’m not sure on that, lts took him years to act and I understand that he was left in a difficult position after his dad but any businessman worth their salt can see you when your losing millions of pounds every year you need to do something quickly. 
 

Everything with King power whether it’s our club or King power duty free is reactive not proactive. They only do something when it has to be done.

The past is done now, it's important to keep in mind the mistakes that have already been made but this is a first step towards a more stable future. 

 

If the same mistakes are repeated then he deserves the same criticism that was levelled at him before, time will tell. 

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