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1 minute ago, HankMarvin said:

To challenge for Europe and Champions league places.

I didn’t mean challenge for the title. 

Look how much money is being spent by the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea this year, look at the richest club in the world struggling to keep hold of their players. 

I used Brighton as an example of a club progressing and growing, but how long will it last.

Brighton (like most PL clubs) are just two bad transfer windows away from the same tailspin that we got into. It will only be the three promoted clubs that saves them, for now.

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Posted

I find it quite interesting that there seems to be quite a few of our fans that think we have actually been done over a bit with the deal because the £12m is spread over 3 years

 

I thought it was very common knowledge these days that transfer fees are very very very rarely ever paid upfront

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Brighton (like most PL clubs) are just two bad transfer windows away from the same tailspin that we got into. It will only be the three promoted clubs that saves them, for now.

7th highest value squad in the league, probably more likely that they end up selling Carlos Baleba for £100m 

Posted
2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I find it quite interesting that there seems to be quite a few of our fans that think we have actually been done over a bit with the deal because the £12m is spread over 3 years

 

I thought it was very common knowledge these days that transfer fees are very very very rarely ever paid upfront

Plus the £12m still would go on this year's accounts if needed for psr wouldn't it? 

Posted
1 minute ago, jayfox26 said:

Plus the £12m still would go on this year's accounts if needed for psr wouldn't it? 

Yeah the full value will still go on the 25/26 accounts

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Posted
3 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I find it quite interesting that there seems to be quite a few of our fans that think we have actually been done over a bit with the deal because the £12m is spread over 3 years

 

I thought it was very common knowledge these days that transfer fees are very very very rarely ever paid upfront

Smaller deals aren’t always structured equally over the duration of the deal. it can be 50% 25% 25%

 

It’s like fans saying we have sold x amount of players this year we should be buying players when the reality is it’s small amounts, so unless we get bank loans against the future instalments it’s not really making the dent that people envisage 

Posted
4 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Smaller deals aren’t always structured equally over the duration of the deal. it can be 50% 25% 25%

 

It’s like fans saying we have sold x amount of players this year we should be buying players when the reality is it’s small amounts, so unless we get bank loans against the future instalments it’s not really making the dent that people envisage 

Yeah but what I mean is for some reason they seem to think Ipswich have got one over on us by doing it that way, when it reality it is just pretty standard and actually the only thing out of the norm is that we have found out how long it is spread over

 

Seeing as we pretty much always do use bank loans to get it earlier, I expect it will happen this time as well

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Yeah the full value will still go on the 25/26 accounts

Two different things,

cash flow vs accounting. The £12m shows in the accounts, but the club only gets £4m in cash this year – the rest comes in later instalments. That’s why we had to borrow against the Maddison fees

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Some of his suitors must know something I dont. I would have been satisfies with £5-6m never mind double that.

 

LOL at those who want to find a negative in everything now moaning about the structure of the money!! Hilarious!

 

Its a great deal, even if it was done by the hated Rudkin!

Posted
3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Two different things,

cash flow vs accounting. The £12m shows in the accounts, but the club only gets £4m in cash this year – the rest comes in later instalments. That’s why we had to borrow against the Maddison fees

He asked about PSR

 

I answered about PSR

Posted
10 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

He asked about PSR

 

I answered about PSR

It depends if the club plans to borrow against it.

The full 12m can boost year 1 PSR accounts, but the instalments arriving in years 2 and 3 don’t give extra PSR headroom. Spending that cash later counts against PSR for those years, which can then be restrictive. That’s why clubs sometimes borrow against future instalments in Year 1

if they don’t, it’s better to align revenue with cash flow to reduce net profit.

 

Posted
2 hours ago, TeamRocket said:

Honestly I dunno how I feel about this one. Definitely got alot more then expected but he's young and feel like we may live to regret this. Hope am wrong. 

For 12M he needs to be a starter in this league.  If the manager says he isn't we sell him.  Best for everyone.

Posted

Good fee but I think if he gets a fair run in their team he could produce the goods. 
 

it’s all well and good moving players on but the money disappears down a black hole. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, SK3Blue said:

Good fee but I think if he gets a fair run in their team he could produce the goods. 
 

it’s all well and good moving players on but the money disappears down a black hole. 

That's the problem. The fee itself is fine but if we never reinvest in talent we're just weakening the team, deal after deal.

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Posted
7 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Still slightly shocked we let him leave. 

Marti seemed to favour him, so I'm shocked he signed this off 

 

 

 

In reality every player at the club is for sale until the club gets its financial act together ... also Marti wants a smaller squad so it's probably a good thing all round ... and hopefully a few more will follow... firstly those who no longer want to play for the club 

Posted
1 hour ago, SK3Blue said:

Good fee but I think if he gets a fair run in their team he could produce the goods. 
 

it’s all well and good moving players on but the money disappears down a black hole. 

I think he’s better than he gets credit for. All for getting the finances sorted, but at this rate we’ll have no players left to do anything but drift. 

Posted
8 hours ago, Royston. said:

Had their pants down for 12 million but i hope the lad does the business for ipswich and Rudkin inserted a juicy sell on fee:brendan:

Except we're left with BDR getting more game time 

Posted
9 hours ago, moore_94 said:

I find it quite interesting that there seems to be quite a few of our fans that think we have actually been done over a bit with the deal because the £12m is spread over 3 years

 

I thought it was very common knowledge these days that transfer fees are very very very rarely ever paid upfront

We usually simply take out a loan equivalent to the sale price, making the funds available immediately, and repay it with the stage payments as they come in.

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Positive and negative emotions on this one. I like him, athletic and has an eye for goal. 

 

He did put some poor performances in recently. But KM at Ipswich will get the best out of him. 

 

If it wasn't for PSR, I'd have kept him over about 8 other players. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, adamkhalifa said:

Positive and negative emotions on this one. I like him, athletic and has an eye for goal. 

 

He did put some poor performances in recently. But KM at Ipswich will get the best out of him. 

 

If it wasn't for PSR, I'd have kept him over about 8 other players. 

I think he'll be solid for Ipswich as he has a good attitude - I would have much rather other players left before him. A lot of negative comments about him, but it speaks volumes that two highly rated managers wanted him (Le Bris and Mckenna). People saying, 'great, we can get someone better in', but no sign of that happening I'm afraid.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

That's the problem. The fee itself is fine but if we never reinvest in talent we're just weakening the team, deal after deal.

I think most are agreed that the club needs a full financial reset and that appears to be happening. Of course we'd have rather sold Faes, Soumare, Kristiansen etc but the reality is nobody wants our shite. I'd much rather us sell Mcateer than sell Fatawu. I can't stand Rudkin but he can't seem to win either way with our fans. He's been slated previously for turning down offers for players and still appears to be getting slated when we've recieved, in my opinion, an overpriced deal on a very average player who isn't a starter in our team. 

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