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England home qualifiers are generally a dull exercise in doing enough to beat moderate opposition in front of largely disinterested crowds.

 

The most memorable in the last 25 years were Greece in 2001 and Croatia in 2007, neither of which were won. The rest just merge into one.

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5 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Who’s better? Spain? Yes, anyone else? No chance 

France? 

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Shame that Rashford, in particular, hasn't reached his potential for a while - for whatever reason.

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3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Mind numbing. No wonder most go to these games purely for away caps.

I would say 2/3k left at half time. 
 

I enjoyed it probably for a different reason as i’ve got such a different view on football now I take the lad. He was loving it and it’s the same with Leicester games, I’m not all that arsed for me, football has changed so much from what it used to be it doesn’t affect me anywhere near how it used to be when Leicester/England win or lose.
 

It’s what it does to him, we win he’s buzzing, we lose he’s heartbroken. I see the excitement and passion in him watching football and it takes me back to being 6 years old. Took him an extra half a second to realise Rice had scored and as I turned to him, honestly his face was filled with delight and I’ll never forget that. 
 

Onto the game, could’ve easily scored more. I think a case of knowing they’d won before it started, with the biggest game of the qualifiers to come on Tuesday, Andorra playing an 8-1-1 which regardless of the opposition is always hard to score against. Wasteful with a few good chances.  
 

Tuesday will be a good test to see what we actually have to offer. 

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9 hours ago, filbertway said:

Gotta hand it to Tuchel, he makes Southgate look like Bielsa

Untimely he will ought to be judged on the performance at the World Cup but don’t think we are anymore likely to win that now than if Southgate had been in charge tbh .

And I presume Tuchel isn’t here for the long term so probably won’t care about player development or building a squad that muc

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9 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Untimely he will ought to be judged on the performance at the World Cup but don’t think we are anymore likely to win that now than if Southgate had been in charge tbh .

And I presume Tuchel isn’t here for the long term so probably won’t care about player development or building a squad that muc

Even if he wins it I’d be very shocked if he’s still the manager past the World Cup 

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11 hours ago, filbertway said:

Gotta hand it to Tuchel, he makes Southgate look like Bielsa

Is it his tactics or players not putting in 80-100% effort in currently (albeit only played 'minnows' so far)?

 

Need to start in Serbia very well (is it behind closed doors, due to Serbia's past trouble?).

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2 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Even if he wins it I’d be very shocked if he’s still the manager past the World Cup 

Pretty much this.

 

If he wins it, he gets any club managerial job on the planet whenever he fancies it. I could even see him taking over from Pep under those circumstances. 

 

Even if we're wretched, he'll still get a middling job somewhere like the Middle East.

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10 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Is it his tactics or players not putting in 80-100% effort in currently (albeit only played 'minnows' so far)?

 

Need to start in Serbia very well (is it behind closed doors, due to Serbia's past trouble?).

Probably had Tuesday in mind so didn’t really go at full pelt .

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41 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Is it his tactics or players not putting in 80-100% effort in currently (albeit only played 'minnows' so far)?

 

Need to start in Serbia very well (is it behind closed doors, due to Serbia's past trouble?).

2500 away allocation, £5 a ticket.

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15 hours ago, Lionator said:

Who’s better? Spain? Yes, anyone else? No chance 

+France, Germany, Portugal, Croatia, Belgium, probably on par with Netherlands. 

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Well that was like watching paint dry yesterday, if you were their the atmosphere pre match it was quite good, everyone seemed pretty excited. The occasion of playing an England international back in the midlands, just whole buzz in both the city centre and at the ground. Once the match kicked off that positiveness was quickly dead. Vibe from the team quite early was apparent, players did not look interested and certainly weren't living up to the occasion. By the second half it what noticeable that some fans had seen enough and left after the break. As the game went on more and more left the stadium, I left around 84 minutes to beat the crowds at Witton... lol that was a joke... even that was too late. Witton station was madness, even with minutes to go there was thousands trying to get on to that station back to Birmingham New Street, honestly it was dangerous. Not enough staff or police around I don't think, decided to get away headed long way round to Aston station... just as bad. Really poor organisation people queuing where they liked. I've been to Villa Park before and known it busy post match, but never as extreme as that. Took nearly an hour an half to do 2.5miles, could have walked but my dad can't walk far these days.

 

Really poor planning from whoever was in charge, I don't think Villa Park can host an international again until they improve the transport links.

 

Going back on the field, tactics just too slow I feel the team are having to play a system to suit Kane into the game and I'm not sure it's working well. Its still early days in the Tuchel regime, but not seen any positive signs of what's to come. I do fear there's already players in the camp sulking. It's annoying one of highly rated coaches in the world, with proven success and yet it feels like we are going backwards. 

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4 hours ago, Otis said:

+France, Germany, Portugal, Croatia, Belgium, probably on par with Netherlands. 

Belgium? Germany? Nah. 

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4 hours ago, Otis said:

+France, Germany, Portugal, Croatia, Belgium, probably on par with Netherlands. 

France - Yes.

Germany - No.

Portugal - Yes, if they drop Ronaldo.

Croatia - No.

Belgium - No.

Netherlands - No.

 

We're third in Europe at the moment for me. Fourth at the worst.

 

It'll take a minor miracle for us to win the World Cup next year, but we're not an also ran by any means. Just not up to the level of Spain, France or Argentina. 

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That last night was appalling to watch. Over complicating a simple game with too many passes when 1 will do. Appreciate Andorra stuck 11 men behind the ball, but still.

 

 

There is not a chance that we beat Serbia playing like that. 
 

Our job is a poisoned chalice and I think if we somehow got PSGs manager in, he’d still turn us stale

 

Also, our players are nowhere near as good as made out by our media. 
 

Kane was world class, unquestionably, I think. But once again, we’ve got a striker as captain which means he “has” to play if fit. At the detriment to the overall team too. It’s Wayne Rooney all over again. 
 

I don’t doubt the players we have are good players. But Foden, Palmer, Burns, Gordon, simply are not world class. If Grealish can get back to being Villa Grealish consistently, he’ll be dangerous, but still not ‘World Class’

 

I blame the likes of SSN having a constant reel and therefore a need to talk about something all the time that leads to players being way overrated

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I would be interesting to see if Tuchel has the bottle to change the captaincy, Kane just hasn't got it in him to lead this team. Candidate wise a few choices Rice possibly, Bellingham for a young age is showing lots of maturity. 

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On 06/09/2025 at 22:13, Corky said:

England home qualifiers are generally a dull exercise in doing enough to beat moderate opposition in front of largely disinterested crowds.

 

The most memorable in the last 25 years were Greece in 2001 and Croatia in 2007, neither of which were won. The rest just merge into one.

Was thinking this weekend how the constant expansion of tournament football has completely bored qualification. In my childhood, we'd have to play one major team every qualification campaign with another tricky underdog as well. I don't think FIFA/UEFA realise that this constant milking of the sport is one of the main causes so many are bored with it. If England **** this up over Serbia, they still have a likely playoff place via the Nations League. 

 

The South American qualifiers have 6 teams and another qualifying for a play-off. Literally seven out of 10 teams. The qualifiers in their format have zero tension to them. 

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