Kneeling

[Finnegan]

Looking forward to being tagged in a thread by Frankel1981 pretending he has no idea why his topic was deleted in the Help and Suggestions forum. 

[RonnieTodger]

Grow up mate

[Raj]

Funny really I'm sure the ones moaning about taking the knee are the ones painting the roundabouts ...whilst taking the knee!!!🤣🤣🤣

[sdb]

I refuse to believe anyone genuinely gets angry about this kind of stuff. Kinda woke behaviour tbh.

[splinterdream]

27 minutes ago, ts_1010 said:

I'm not aware of any championship clubs kneeling this week. Prem clubs are doing it as part of a drive to highlight racism in and around the sport. This is a pre planned event/gesture/whatever, to coincide with the Say No to Racism campaign, scheduled for game week 8 and 9. This is not happening because of the Villa game.

 

It's almost like someone has used this event to stir up anger and division among supporters of this club...

A pattern across the western world 

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, lfu said:

It's not Jews being banned, it's away fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv, because policing intelligence suggests they're likely to need significantly more resources to police than a typical away contigent (and they don't want to put their officers or stewards at risk) and their fans' prior behaviour has repeatedly been violent, causing property damage and chanting racist slogans. Away fans of a club being banned from attending a European fixture because police/security deem to be them a significant risk is nothing new, nor is it exclusive to Maccabi Tel Aviv — ask fans of Legia Warsaw (whose behaviour at Villa Park earned them a ban) Frankfurt, Feyenoord, West Ham, Barcelona, etc

Aston Villa's Jewish fans (I believe they have a small Jewish Supporters Group?) aren't banned from attending, nor am I aware of any Aston Villa fans being banned on the basis of their religion.

Just to let you know, the amsterdam incident, there was a small contingent of maccabi fans arrested (10 i think), and the trouble was a organised campaign to attack the maccabi fans 

[It'sblueupnorth]

44 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Am dying look at your profile picture  

Yeah look at it, 2 people who can breathe and haven’t held a woman a gunpoint 

[lfu]

3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

Just to let you know, the amsterdam incident, there was a small contingent of maccabi fans arrested (10 i think), and the trouble was a organised campaign to attack the maccabi fans 

Yeah, I won't make light of that at all; the attack by people from Amsterdam/surrounding areas on the Maccabi fans was pre-organised (court proceedings showed whatsapp chat logs and such, and was referred to as a "Jew Hunt"), but from reading the Dutch news coverage of it they mostly failed at confronting the Maccabi hooligans who were their actual targets – I believe most of the people they ended up attacking were the Maccabi fans who were trying to avoid getting caught up with the hools, as well as some locals who refused to show ID to thugs who were indeed looking to attack anyone with an Israeli passport (or as being Jewish, as there were at least several of them using the Arabic words for Jew rather than the words for Israeli so there was definitely anti-semitic motivation there, I won't deny), and one Ukrainan refugee they mistook as being Israeli.

But AFAIK the anti-Arab chanting, ripping down Palestinian flags, vandalising property (trying to kick down doors and break windows) and attacking an Arab taxi driver (breaking his windscreen with a metal pole) happened before the attacks by the locals. A lot of Maccabi fans avoided being arrested by covering their faces and getting on the flight home before the police could identify them, conveniently helped by some CCTV footage being wiped.

[OntarioFox]

For folks on either side of this 'debate', I strongly recommend you do the same thing as the player's knees, and touch grass.

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, steveb said:

Sad world we live in where the Fascist scum can`t mind their own fkin business if good people want to make a point and at the same time get away with partying in the streets waving their cheapo Chinese flags threatening to burn people alive.

About time we had zero tolerance for these sub human scum

 

 

 

Steve, we have an authoritarian government that wants to force us all to be carrying ID which they plan to link with various controls, they clearly have influence over the judiciary and police, who are locking people up for dissent through means of speech, and now we are banning jews from a football match which suspiciouslylooks like its due to the  demographic in the area......who is it you think are the fascist scum? 

[Thefox81]

40 minutes ago, Frankel1981 said:

Club posted a racism message earlier in week it coincides with premier league campaign this weekend.

Knowing our club they probably still think we are in the premier league.

[splinterdream]

2 minutes ago, lfu said:

Yeah, I won't make light of that at all; the attack by people from Amsterdam/surrounding areas on the Maccabi fans was pre-organised (court proceedings showed whatsapp chat logs and such, and was referred to as a "Jew Hunt"), but from reading the Dutch news coverage of it they mostly failed at confronting the Maccabi hooligans who were their actual targets – I believe most of the people they ended up attacking were the Maccabi fans who were trying to avoid getting caught up with the hools, as well as some locals who refused to show ID to thugs who were indeed looking to attack anyone with an Israeli passport (or as being Jewish, as there were at least several of them using the Arabic words for Jew rather than the words for Israeli so there was definitely anti-semitic motivation there, I won't deny), and one Ukrainan refugee they mistook as being Israeli.

But AFAIK the anti-Arab chanting, ripping down Palestinian flags, vandalising property (trying to kick down doors and break windows) and attacking an Arab taxi driver (breaking his windscreen with a metal pole) happened before the attacks by the locals. A lot of Maccabi fans avoided being arrested by covering their faces and getting on the flight home before the police could identify them, conveniently helped by some CCTV footage being wiped.

You'll always get a contingent of idiots at the football, some of our lot shamed themselves in Notts a few years back, but this is the wrong decision, we have to call it out 

[hackneyfox]

Well one good thing about his thread is hat it’s helped me identify the people I want **** all to do with.

[Spudulike]

 

1 hour ago, steveb said:

Sad world we live in where the Fascist scum can`t mind their own fkin business if good people want to make a point and at the same time get away with partying in the streets waving their cheapo Chinese flags threatening to burn people alive.

About time we had zero tolerance for these sub human scum

 

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, Joe90 said:

Are you on about the Birmingham police force? 

Could be applied to any of the protest groups. 

[Samilktray]

21 minutes ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

Yeah look at it, 2 people who can breathe and haven’t held a woman a gunpoint 

You’re a very ugly human and I hope you try and be better going forward 

[It'sblueupnorth]

Just now, Samilktray said:

You’re a very ugly human and I hope you try and be better going forward 

Thanks for your help, I’ll aspire to be more like the saintly supermodel George Floyd  

[StanSP]

Imagine being so uptight you feel the need not only to boo it, but to be so self-righteous to create a thread on the Internet for it

 

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, It'sblueupnorth said:

To celebrate George Floyd - 5 years without committing a crime and being sober 

If you still think it's purely about Floyd then that's sad. 

[moore_94]

Imagine letting something like this wind you up in the first place, and then so badly that you boo it etc.

 

lmao

Edited 18 October 2025 by moore_94

[foxpleasure]

1 hour ago, Frankel1981 said:

Hypocrisy Racism kick it out while banning Jews attending a match at Villa 

You mean banning a clubs fans that triggered a near riot in Amsterdam with their loutish behaviour eufa should have banned them for a few games rather than leaving it to clubs to have to decide.

Edited 18 October 2025 by foxpleasure

[Frankel1981]

9 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Imagine being so uptight you feel the need not only to boo it, but to be so self-righteous to create a thread on the Internet for it

 

Thanks for your insightful replies 

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, Frankel1981 said:

Thanks for your insightful replies 

You're very welcome. 

[Mark_w]

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

No room for racism unless you support an Israeli club.

The decision to take the knee for BLM is made by individual players, teams and their respective football leagues. The decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans was made by West Midlands police and the Birmingham Safety Advisory Group.

 

Who are you accusing of hypocrisy and why?

[splinterdream]

5 minutes ago, foxpleasure said:

You mean banning a clubs fans that triggered a near riot in Amsterdam with their loutish behaviour eufa should have banned them for a few games rather than leaving it to clubs to have to decide.

You must recognise that these fans are targetted wherever they go, and that is due to anti-semiticism. Of course some are going to go on the attack when they know theres an organised attack on them. If police can't control it, the game should be played behind closed doors

[grobyfox1990]

2 hours ago, Frankel1981 said:

Virtue signalling why do it what has it ever achieved? 
 

 

I hate virtue signalling. Saw that radical left wing nut job snowflake virtue signaller Tommy Robinson in a Maccabi shirt yday. He hates our country. Should be banged up