Cifuentes OUT

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, Donwebbio said:

I would expect to get shot down on this but I think we need to reframe our expectations as a fanbase. We are weaker than 23/24 where we had the best midfield 3 in the league, Doyle instead of Thomas, James Justin, Vardy up top with Cannon, iheanacho in reserve, in form Mavididi, best goalkeeper in the league. Ricardo 2 years younger and fit all season.

 

We now have no strikers, no quality at full back, no back up wingers, 2 relegations in the bank, saddled with more sub-standard players. Hand on heart, how many of our players walk into Coventry's team? We must still have the highest wage bill but a mid-level quality squad.  

 

I think now we've added Ramsey and James. If those 2, Fatawu and Monga are able to stay fit then then expectation has to be play offs.

 

Before we added Ramsey and James though I was ready for mid table.

 

As long as Marti keeps learning and improving then I'll be satisfied. We're a quarter into the season and still have a lot of players paid vastly better than their quality and you can't attribute any of that at Marti. if he had any say in the Ramsey and James loans then to me that's a good sign.

 

We need more athletic players across the park and more importantly we need to start adding good characters. 

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

 

I think now we've added Ramsey and James. If those 2, Fatawu and Monga are able to stay fit then then expectation has to be play offs.

 

Before we added Ramsey and James though I was ready for mid table.

 

As long as Marti keeps learning and improving then I'll be satisfied. We're a quarter into the season and still have a lot of players paid vastly better than their quality and you can't attribute any of that at Marti. if he had any say in the Ramsey and James loans then to me that's a good sign.

 

We need more athletic players across the park and more importantly we need to start adding good characters. 

I don't know if this is an unfair tag to label Marti but there's a massive issue with strikers under him. Here, QPR and Hammarby he's just not got goals from his strikers. He seemed to sign off on letting Kelman go on loan twice as well at QPR when their options seemed appalling.

 

It's clearly been acknowledged as a problem as as soon as he's gone they've signed Kone and Burrell who are both scoring at a decent rate for their aspirations.

 

Our attacking and defensive stats under him are concerning, a few areas he's got us doing OK in but I'm losing faith big time. I think he's bang average which might be what we have to settle for now. Life under Aiyawatt eh.

[Fox92]

9 minutes ago, Donwebbio said:

I would expect to get shot down on this but I think we need to reframe our expectations as a fanbase. We are weaker than 23/24 where we had the best midfield 3 in the league, Doyle instead of Thomas, James Justin, Vardy up top with Cannon, iheanacho in reserve, in form Mavididi, best goalkeeper in the league. Ricardo 2 years younger and fit all season.

 

We now have no strikers, no quality at full back, no back up wingers, 2 relegations in the bank, saddled with more sub-standard players. Hand on heart, how many of our players walk into Coventry's team? We must still have the highest wage bill but a mid-level quality squad.  

 

People acting as if we haven't got a good selection of players to pick from. Ricardo, Winks and Fatawu all get into any other squad for starters. 

 

I'm not having my expectations changed. I'm not happy that we have already failed to beat Wrexham and Portsmouth, both at home. We have won 1 game in 7 with a difficult game coming on Saturday. No wonder staff and players get let off by our fanbase so much.

[RowlattsFox]

It is funny when we you see comments saying how shit everyone is and then in the same breadth how we should be dominating the league. 

I actually think we are where I expected us to be, but I expected our overall performances to be better. 

 

[dmayne7]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't know if this is an unfair tag to label Marti but there's a massive issue with strikers under him. Here, QPR and Hammarby he's just not got goals from his strikers. He seemed to sign off on letting Kelman go on loan twice as well at QPR when their options seemed appalling.

 

It's clearly been acknowledged as a problem as as soon as he's gone they've signed Kone and Burrell who are both scoring at a decent rate for their aspirations.

 

Our attacking and defensive stats under him are concerning, a few areas he's got us doing OK in but I'm losing faith big time. I think he's bang average which might be what we have to settle for now. Life under Aiyawatt eh.

Interesting if his record with strikers is not great (not exactly going to improve here) but having watched Kelman in the flesh during one of those loan spells (Gillingham), and generally seen him loads in highlights etc, letting him go on loan is no kind of black mark against MC. He barley scored any goals until last year and hasn't scored in 11 league games this year. He's a very tidy player but I'm not surprised that he's not scoring.

[tickler28]

16 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Because some think we should be doing better, at least on the pitch if not in the table. It’s fair, but suspect it takes longer to right this particular ship.

Nah we have to many bad eggs and not enough good ones....you ain't gonna be winning matches with just Fattawu shooting on his left cutting in all the time....lots of other players just going through the motions....you can see it in their body language....if anyone needs sacking it's Soumare, Daka, Choudhury and Thomas 

[kenny]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't know if this is an unfair tag to label Marti but there's a massive issue with strikers under him. Here, QPR and Hammarby he's just not got goals from his strikers. He seemed to sign off on letting Kelman go on loan twice as well at QPR when their options seemed appalling.

 

It's clearly been acknowledged as a problem as as soon as he's gone they've signed Kone and Burrell who are both scoring at a decent rate for their aspirations.

 

Our attacking and defensive stats under him are concerning, a few areas he's got us doing OK in but I'm losing faith big time. I think he's bang average which might be what we have to settle for now. Life under Aiyawatt eh.

My concern is that the ball is moved too slowly so we nullify our own attacking threat. By the time the ball gets to Fatawu or Monga its 3 on 1. This should mean there is an overload in other areas, but we manage to make it so that we are crowded out at all times.

 

As it stands, he doesn't appear to have an attacking plan in place.

 

Under Enzo ball, it was clear that he wanted to slow the game down to snail pace then attack quickly when ready. The wingers were always supported by the 8's and they stretched the pitch wide to leave room for Vardy.

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Interesting if his record with strikers is not great (not exactly going to improve here) but having watched Kelman in the flesh during one of those loan spells (Gillingham), and generally seen him loads in highlights etc, letting him go on loan is no kind of black mark against MC. He barley scored any goals until last year and hasn't scored in 11 league games this year. He's a very tidy player but I'm not surprised that he's not scoring.

Yeah Kelman is a weird one, just surprised given their options he hadn't been kept around for a bit.

[AKCJ]

20 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Do a Leicester/Cov XI?

 

GK - Rushworth

RB - Van Ewijk

CB - Woolfenden

CB - Thomas

LB - Ricardo

CM - James

CM - Torp/Grimes

RW - Fatawu

AM - Thomas-Asante

LW - Mason-Clarke

ST - Wright

 

Slim pickings for us. Although I think a neutral would probably put Winks and Vestergaard in.

[Ric Flair]

Just now, kenny said:

My concern is that the ball is moved too slowly so we nullify our own attacking threat. By the time the ball gets to Fatawu or Monga its 3 on 1. This should mean there is an overload in other areas, but we manage to make it so that we are crowded out at all times.

 

As it stands, he doesn't appear to have an attacking plan in place.

 

Under Enzo ball, it was clear that he wanted to slow the game down to snail pace then attack quickly when ready. The wingers were always supported by the 8's and they stretched the pitch wide to leave room for Vardy.

I think we move the ball quicker under Cifuentes and the 1st half vs Pompey was the 1st time I've seen two 8's running on with gusto to create space for the front three. I think it's very disjointed still because of the defensive combination. We need more athleticism at full back, Aluko for Thomas would be the obvious switch and I'd honestly go Nelson and Okoli and try and be more aggressive across the back line to engage the space.

[kenny]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

I think we move the ball quicker under Cifuentes and the 1st half vs Pompey was the 1st time I've seen two 8's running on with gusto to create space for the front three. I think it's very disjointed still because of the defensive combination. We need more athleticism at full back, Aluko for Thomas would be the obvious switch and I'd honestly go Nelson and Okoli and try and be more aggressive across the back line to engage the space.

At the point where playing senior pros isn't winning matches, not playing more promising youth players becomes a very mute argument.

[Stadt]

44 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Who are the players in our squad that you think are significantly better than the competition?

 

As far as I can see the only player in our squad of Premier League quality is Fatawu (Ricardo too but he's only good for 60 minutes a week).

I didn’t say that they’re better than the completion - I said we’ll

lose our better players over a few windows.

 

Whether that’s loans or contracts expiring and losing players for a fee. Given we broadly get worse window by window it’s correct.

 

Ramsey isn’t staying in all likelihood, James we should tie down but we could easily be gasped by a PL club, Fatawu will have suitors. Monga won’t be here for very long.
 

Even Stolarcyzk, Nelson, Mavididi, Okoli and Souttar are better than the median Championship player.

[AKCJ]

Just now, Stadt said:

I didn’t say that they’re better than the completion - I said we’ll

lose our better players over a few windows.

 

Whether that’s loans or contracts expiring and losing players for a fee. Given we broadly get worse window by window it’s correct.

 

Ramsey isn’t staying in all likelihood, James we should tie down but we could easily be gasped by a PL club, Fatawu will have suitors. Monga won’t be here for very long.
 

Even Stolarcyzk, Nelson, Mavididi, Okoli and Souttar are better than the median Championship player.

That goes for every club that doesn't get promoted. It's all about reinvesting properly.

 

I think we've got a slightly above average squad for this level and the individual quality from players like Fatawu might push us into the play offs. But I wouldn't be hopeful of anything more than that. I think we finish bang on mid table this season with a points deduction.

[filbertway]

11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I don't know if this is an unfair tag to label Marti but there's a massive issue with strikers under him. Here, QPR and Hammarby he's just not got goals from his strikers. He seemed to sign off on letting Kelman go on loan twice as well at QPR when their options seemed appalling.

 

It's clearly been acknowledged as a problem as as soon as he's gone they've signed Kone and Burrell who are both scoring at a decent rate for their aspirations.

 

Our attacking and defensive stats under him are concerning, a few areas he's got us doing OK in but I'm losing faith big time. I think he's bang average which might be what we have to settle for now. Life under Aiyawatt eh.

Yeah it's not been great at all, I just can't bring myself to write off a manager who's had little maneuverability in the market and stuck with a fair few dossers that clearly wanted out. Unless we plummet drastically I'm more than happy for him to get the season and build up.

I don't see things improving under another manager.  We badly lack the spirit and physicality that a lot of team have. 

The only thing I can't get my head around is the lack of youth involvement, but as he alluded to in his post-match interview, it seems like he's wanting to give the senior players a fair crack, which I assume is an attempt to try and maintain some form of harmony at the club. Just trying to think big picture on that one, if they continue to disappoint and we still don't see some of the younger lads making the squad then I will reassess in January.

 

I feel for any bloke that's had to walk into this mess so he's getting a lot of slack from me atm.

[Donwebbio]

12 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

People acting as if we haven't got a good selection of players to pick from. Ricardo, Winks and Fatawu all get into any other squad for starters. 

 

I'm not having my expectations changed. I'm not happy that we have already failed to beat Wrexham and Portsmouth, both at home. We have won 1 game in 7 with a difficult game coming on Saturday. No wonder staff and players get let off by our fanbase such.

 No I'm not condoning the performances, I think we have been poor in too many games and the manager should rightly be under pressure. I booed the team off on Saturday after an awful 2nd half Wrexham 2nd half was poor, Tuesday 1st half was poor. The fact the manager can't get a tune out of these players for 90 mins is a big red flag and his selections have been iffy and use of bench has been poor. We do have major flaws in the team & squad though and opposition teams are planning for and exploiting our weaknesses. 

 

Luke Thomas must be the worst LB in the league and yet he has just been given a new 4 year deal and seemingly the first name on the teamsheet. Talk about setting the bar low. Our squad quality is declining year on year.

[honeybradger]

Might be unpopular but I still wouldnt be particularly hot on him if we were winning most weeks and challenging for the automatic positions.

 

What is the point in going up if it is with the likes of Faes, Ayew etc as our key players, we're just going to have another terrible season in the PL like last year where we are massively out of our depth if we go up that way.

 

The primary objective of this season has to be to integrate the academy players and shift the high earners who we know arent good enough. A rebuild where we actually bring some life into this team.

 

The fact that he has created this separation between academy and first team and is still floundering at achieving his own goal of promotion at any cost, including the cost of the long term future of the club, doesnt leave him in a good light.

[Stadt]

6 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

That goes for every club that doesn't get promoted. It's all about reinvesting properly.

 

I think we've got a slightly above average squad for this level and the individual quality from players like Fatawu might push us into the play offs. But I wouldn't be hopeful of anything more than that. I think we finish bang on mid table this season with a points deduction.

Cov have kept their core together, they lost Hamer and Gyokeres a few seasons ago but since they’ve remained fairly in tact. They’ve smartly added to their squad.

 

We’re a unique case in speed running going form a CL contending squad to a midtable championship one. We don’t do the reinvesting properly but. 
 

The KDH (pure profit sale) funded in part previous expensive mistakes, Golding, Skipp, Ayew, Okoli, BEK and Fatawu.

 

We have to get promoted now, or at the very latest next season we don’t have any family silver left to sell.

[Spanner73]

5 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

The rotten culture comes from Aiyawatt. As owner, he could stamp authority and standards on the club, including the players, at any time he wants. They know they can get away with disrespecting the club and fans because the owner does the same.

1 million % correct !! 

[Spanner73]

3 hours ago, Winstonthedog said:

Oh  Mr Rudkin  ....you've not mentioned yoursef

Need to move on from blaming him as there’s only 1 person who can change things. 

[dmayne7]

9 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Might be unpopular but I still wouldnt be particularly hot on him if we were winning most weeks and challenging for the automatic positions.

 

What is the point in going up if it is with the likes of Faes, Ayew etc as our key players, we're just going to have another terrible season in the PL like last year where we are massively out of our depth if we go up that way.

 

The primary objective of this season has to be to integrate the academy players and shift the high earners who we know arent good enough. A rebuild where we actually bring some life into this team.

 

The fact that he has created this separation between academy and first team and is still floundering at achieving his own goal of promotion at any cost, including the cost of the long term future of the club, doesnt leave him in a good light.

But is that actually the objective? It is for us as a fanbase but I've been thinking about this over the last few days; we simply don't know what his directive is. He's not helped himself by going big with the narrative around his the young players but it wouldn't surprise me if he's been told that it's promotion at all costs. Or then that they've also told him he must use the young players. It's seems quite possible that he's been given mixed messages from the clowns in charge. Then you've got the massive amount of egos and bad eggs who'd stink the place out if they don't play, and the club has probably limited chances of us selling them.

 

This should have been a perfect opportunity for Top/Rudkin to come out and ask for a bit of patience as the team is in need of a rebuild and we want to focus on using the academy, but they're allergic to open communication.

[AKCJ]

15 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Cov have kept their core together, they lost Hamer and Gyokeres a few seasons ago but since they’ve remained fairly in tact. They’ve smartly added to their squad.

 

We’re a unique case in speed running going form a CL contending squad to a midtable championship one. We don’t do the reinvesting properly but. 
 

The KDH (pure profit sale) funded in part previous expensive mistakes, Golding, Skipp, Ayew, Okoli, BEK and Fatawu.

 

We have to get promoted now, or at the very latest next season we don’t have any family silver left to sell.

Don't forget the massive advantage of parachute payments.

 

Coupled with the fact that Fatawu will be sold for a shit load and the fact that we should now finally be outside of PSR issues and a lot of high earners will be off the wage bill, I think we'll spend heavily next summer.

[JonnyBoy]

10 hours ago, dillonpanthers87 said:

Anger needs to be re-directed towards 'Top' and KP.

 apart from it won't, as most of the moaners on here who have ST's will attend the next home game - they haven't got in in them to boycott 

[Ashley]

40 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

 

GK - Rushworth

RB - Van Ewijk

CB - Woolfenden

CB - Thomas

LB - Ricardo

CM - James

CM - Torp/Grimes

RW - Fatawu

AM - Thomas-Asante

LW - Mason-Clarke

ST - Wright

 

Slim pickings for us. Although I think a neutral would probably put Winks and Vestergaard in.

Probably about right. 

 

Mav or Monga over Mason-Clarke and Ramsey over Thomas-Asante and 🤝

[AKCJ]

Just now, Ashley said:

Probably about right. 

 

Mav or Monga over Mason-Clarke and Ramsey over Thomas-Asante and 🤝

Maybe if you asked at the beginning of the season but I think the Cov lads are miles ahead at the moment.

 

 

[RowlattsFox]

Coventry squad are showing the difference that being confident and having a positive mindset can have. Individually you could argue we have better players but they are mentally not there. I think that shows with James and Ramsey being the most care-free players we have, the rest have had everything drained out of them.