Cifuentes OUT

[winteriscoming]

My hope is he’ll get it right and start getting the youngsters involved in the match day squad at the very least. 
In his defense he hasn’t had as bad a start than O’Neil had when he was here. Granted that is a while ago. Think it took him over 12 games to get a win. Also it took Iraolo 10 games to get his first win at Bournemouth. 
I dread the alternative with these idiots in charge. 
 

[Zear0]

Seems a bit soon. Squad is utter wank.

[murphy]

4 hours ago, Claridge said:

They gave us the points😳

That's kind of my point.  It wasn't our points tally that had us out of the bottom three, (0.8 ppg is bottom 3 fodder), it was because Wolves and Palace had gotten off to heroically bad starts.  As soon as they got their acts together they left us for dust. 

 

Don't do it to yourself.  Don't tell yourself we could have been saved if only we'd stuck with Gollum.  This, after all, was the man who pinned his hopes of survival on bringing in Ayew, Reid and Oliver bloomin Skipp! 

[murphy]

9 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

It's an albatross around our neck, really. The standards we expect as fans are higher - doesn't make us entitled, we've just seen what hard work and the right attitude can produce, even when your options are technically limited.

 

We've had diminishing returns for the best part of a decade now, while throwing a top-six Premier League budget at it, and there aren't any clubs (besides Wrexham) daft enough to take the dross we've signed off our hands.

 

I honestly feel the window we've had was decent (except for Carranza so far). They're the caliber of player we want - both JJ and Ramsey have a decent skillset and seem to have a good attitude. But nothing changes until the awful, underperforming or in some cases downright toxic personnel we're still stuck with (Faes, Soumare, Skipp, Daka, Thomas, Vestergaard, cases to be made also for Ayew, Choudhury, Kristiansen and even Winks) are moved on. That's half the matchday squad who have question marks over their ability or attitude.

 

The likes of Cov don't have that problem. Their squad will be on low wages and feel they have a point to prove. A lot of the morons in our own squad probably think they've already 'made it' and see this season as a stop-gap before another payday comes along.

 

Obviously it comes with the asterisk of them all being on loan, but like I said it was a decent window on the whole and a low risk one too. We brought in at least two players that improve the team and got rid of a handful of wastemen. But the issue is, the level of rot in the squad is so high that it's barely scratched the surface. All we've done is chiselled the first icicle off a frozen turd.

For me,  that was never a decent window.  I was scratching my head when many on here were giving it 8s out of 10.

 

Whilst I agree that JJ and Ramsey are good loans, you can't just brush aside the fact that we did next to nothing to address the glaring hole in the team up front.  That should have been priorities one, two and three! 

 

I think we should have high expectations of this team because most of the players have either won this division before or have been signed to play in The Premier League.   The fact that we have no striker worthy of the name is what will cost us unfortunately. 

[Claridge]

13 hours ago, worth_the_wait said:

Good points.

 

The manager might want to throw a few more youngsters into the team.   But it's a very risky strategy.     

 

Play the kids, lose 7 on the trot, drop into the relegation zone (even with a PSR points deduction), and that's the manager sacked.    Whilst it's frustrating, you can understand why managers often go for the "experienced" players.    And yes before anyone say, we think half the "experienced" players are c r a p.

Problem is our young players are almost too young to throw them all in, although they would almost certainly be no worse, but might not be good in the long term.Like most i would rather see a few more start 

[Joe90]

He will be under massive pressure if we loose to millwall and he ends up in the bottom half by 5pm!

[LCFCJohn]

12 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Both

I was quite young first time but I felt it was very instant. Obviously it was the lower level and we had players who whilst might have been struggling in the Championship, had good attitudes and fitted Pearson’s way as well as being too good for L1. I’m thinking players like Oakley, Howard, Fryatt. Then there was Tunchev who we knew was much better but had that bad injury. Lloyd Dyer came in new didn’t he. Players like Hobbs and Cleverley on loan. Berner, King Mattock, Gradel. The latter 3 were academy. So first time he had some good players but brought some good loans and as well as characters like Berner and Dyer in. 
 

Second time he came back in November and finished 9th that season (11/12) and the next season would have been the Watford play off one. So a season and a half and the one after we destroyed the league in  such style it even made our side from 2 years ago look shit! 
 

God, looking back at the league one side makes me miss that squad and Pearson, when we were a serious club at least.

Edited 24 October 2025 by LCFCJohn

[Dahnsouff]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I was quite young first time but I felt it was very instant. Obviously it was the lower level and we had players who whilst might have been struggling in the Championship, had good attitudes and fitted Pearson’s way as well as being too good for L1. I’m thinking players like Oakley, Howard, Fryatt. Then there was Tunchev who we knew was much better but had that bad injury. Lloyd Dyer came in new didn’t he. Players like Hobbs and Cleverley on loan. Berner, King Mattock, Gradel. The latter 3 were academy. So first time he had some good players but brought some good loans and as well as characters like Berner and Dyer in. 
 

Second time he came back in November and finished 9th that season (11/12) and the next season would have been the Watford play off one. So a season and a half and the one after we destroyed the league in  such style it even made our side from 2 years ago look shit! 
 

God, looking back at the league one side makes me miss that squad and Pearson, when we were a serious club at least.

It is exactly the Pearson type of persona we have been crying out for to be sat at the top in the DoF role, an almost overseer for the club, someone who can see both the direction sought AND has a handle on the club mentality.

I know Nigel did not do it all himself, he has fabulous people around him, but the fix/rot starts at that level.

Edited 24 October 2025 by Dahnsouff

[Samilktray]

That indykaila on twitter have tweeted hes under a bit of pressure, that account seems to have been more reliable recently 

Edited 24 October 2025 by Samilktray

[FrankieADZ]

4 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

That indykaila on twitter have treated hes under a bit of pressure, that account seems to have been more reliable recently 

probably the same higher up idiots who approved the new thomas deal

[jayfox26]

2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

probably the same higher up idiots who approved the new thomas deal

Also the higher up idiots who have now hired 3 duff managers in a row. Complete circus. 

[teblin]

It’s a results business he knows that. If he doesn’t win tomorrow it’s 1 win in 8. It’s not good enough.

 

no matter if its dressed up as we only lost 1 of them.

Edited 24 October 2025 by teblin

[jv1]

They won’t stand by and watch with this one - he won’t be on mega money so won’t cost a lot to get rid of - they will have watched what forest just did and think ok we can do that - every chance they could sack him if we lose comfortably tomorrow 

[filbertway]

Just now, jv1 said:

They won’t stand by and watch with this one - he won’t be on mega money so won’t cost a lot to get rid of - they will have watched what forest just did and think ok we can do that - every chance they could sack him if we lose comfortably tomorrow 

Hope not.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

34 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

probably the same higher up idiots who approved the new thomas deal

Usual twitter "ITK" slop. 

 

"He could get sacked, or he might not. We'll find out in an indeterminate period of time".  

[Number 6]

I wouldn't get rid yet, at all. I'm not at all confident we get someone better in and I think the upheaval would be unhelpful. Not to mention the financial difficulties and another manager payoff.

 

However, he needs his actions to start matching his words. It seems everything he says on interview and post match comments is just lip service.

 

Let's see the team who tries to score a second and third, let's see the aggressive pressing. Because so far it's only been in patches and we've looked mostly timid. This division will chew us up and spit us out unless we're more aggressive.

[ealingfox]

Another bullshitter and a fat Spanish one at that, but we absolutely cannot get rid until Russell Martin is safely in employment. 

[Muzzy_no7]

42 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

probably the same higher up idiots who approved the new thomas deal

Don’t remind me of that moby getting another 4 years likely on around 25k p/w🤮

[daddylonglegs]

6 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Another bullshitter and a fat Spanish one at that, but we absolutely cannot get rid until Russell Martin is safely in employment. 

This is the biggest reason I wouldn't get rid at this stage. 

[ClaphamFox]

6 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

This is the biggest reason I wouldn't get rid at this stage. 

I don't think even our owners would be that stupid. 

[teblin]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

I don't think even our owners would be that stupid. 

Not this again

 

But I think you are right.

 

It would be Gerrard, they'd look at Lampard and think he's done well there.

[daddylonglegs]

5 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I don't think even our owners would be that stupid. 

I think we both know that that is not a sensible view. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

I don't think even our owners would be that stupid. 

I mean they've proven time and again that they are. 

[RoboFox]

Should be an instant perma ban for anyone posting IndyKaila dogshit.

[Ric Flair]

Whilst Brussell is available, Aiyawatt will be very aware there's a bucket list item he could potentially tick off. 3rd time lucky for him after missing out on him in May 2023 and last summer.