Cifuentes OUT

[filbertway]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Whilst Brussell is available, Aiyawatt will be very aware there's a bucket list item he could potentially tick off. 3rd time lucky for him after missing out on him in May 2023 and last summer.

 

 

If theres any good reason not to sack Marti, this is probably number 1

 

[Foxin_Mad]

I hate Martin but I think he probably has more credibility than the clown we have now, at least he has actually achieved something in this division the Spanishman has done nowt

[Sol thewall Bamba]

13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Whilst Brussell is available, Aiyawatt will be very aware there's a bucket list item he could potentially tick off. 3rd time lucky for him after missing out on him in May 2023 and last summer.

 

 

Like Dan said the other day we may as well appoint him so that at least we're on the path to sacking him and getting it over with. 

 

It is totally inevitable. 

[Gamble92]

2 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I hate Martin but I think he probably has more credibility than the clown we have now, at least he has actually achieved something in this division the Spanishman has done nowt

Achieved a play off win with a squad that should at the least have done that. With a playing style many saints fans despised watching. Then led them on the way to being the worst Premier league side ever because of this clueless stubbornness these managers of this philosophy have. 

 

That's the worst part for me. Wouldn't even mind it as much if they tried to show any pragmatism. 

[filbertway]

4 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I hate Martin but I think he probably has more credibility than the clown we have now, at least he has actually achieved something in this division the Spanishman has done nowt

Nah, thats mental. He's grim.

 

Are you the same poster that kept weirdly referring to RVN as "the dutchman"?  Haha

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I always find it interesting who gets their nationality dragged into the conversation about their management ability. Puel got it probably the worst, and now it's starting to creep in with Marti as well. RVN didn't get it weirdly, Brendan did a bit. Enzo and Claudio didn't so I guess Italians are acceptable. 

 

Is there a reference available as to which nationalities are acceptable and which aren't? 

[Ric Flair]

Under no circunstance is Brussell Martin and acceptable proposition here. I also want it to happen so it can then never happen again and hopefully speeds up Aiyawatt's departure from this club.

 

ANNOUNCE BRUSSELL

[ClaphamFox]

26 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I always find it interesting who gets their nationality dragged into the conversation about their management ability. Puel got it probably the worst, and now it's starting to creep in with Marti as well. RVN didn't get it weirdly, Brendan did a bit. Enzo and Claudio didn't so I guess Italians are acceptable. 

 

Is there a reference available as to which nationalities are acceptable and which aren't? 

Our two Italian managers walked in the door and immediately delivered titles, which probably helped to cut them a little slack.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Nah, thats mental. He's grim.

 

Are you the same poster that kept weirdly referring to RVN as "the dutchman"?  Haha

No that's someone else, this is the one who thought his name was Rudd

[CrazyKopCorner]

Someone said they hate Martin (assume Marti). 

 

Seems severe in that the man can't use a bucket at sufficient speed to keep aflaot a sinking ship. 

 

Not being up to the job is different to the blind incompetence of RVN and to some extent Cooper i.e dropped Ricky, didn't play Abdul etc (I know he got injured but he wasn't playing him in any case). 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

27 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Our two Italian managers walked in the door and immediately delivered titles, which probably helped to cut them a little slack.

But even when people were calling for them to be sacked there weren't any mentions of their nationalities.

 

 

Edited 24 October 2025 by Sol thewall Bamba

[Parker Pen]

I reckon the club will give him until after the Norwich game to turn things around, however lose the next 2 and I reckon it’s game over for him!

[Foxin_Mad]

1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

Achieved a play off win with a squad that should at the least have done that. With a playing style many saints fans despised watching. Then led them on the way to being the worst Premier league side ever because of this clueless stubbornness these managers of this philosophy have. 

 

That's the worst part for me. Wouldn't even mind it as much if they tried to show any pragmatism. 

Whats this current guy done though? not even that? not likely to either. Maybe relegation to League 1? 

 

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Nah, thats mental. He's grim.

 

Are you the same poster that kept weirdly referring to RVN as "the dutchman"?  Haha

No its a dig at that. I actually thought RVN would have probably walked the championship because its shit, and anyone with half an ounce of anything about them (See Cooper at Forest) and Martin (at Southampton)

 

should be able to get into the top 6 as an absolute minimum. 

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I always find it interesting who gets their nationality dragged into the conversation about their management ability. Puel got it probably the worst, and now it's starting to creep in with Marti as well. RVN didn't get it weirdly, Brendan did a bit. Enzo and Claudio didn't so I guess Italians are acceptable. 

 

Is there a reference available as to which nationalities are acceptable and which aren't? 

RVN did get called the dutchman by one poster in particular. Its probably more down to whether they are shit or not, although in comparison to the current clown  Puel was a genius. In reality noone cares, ive been saying it more as a crap dig at the previous 'dutchman' posts so will stop being a muppet. 

 

32 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

Someone said they hate Martin (assume Marti). 

 

Seems severe in that the man can't use a bucket at sufficient speed to keep aflaot a sinking ship. 

 

Not being up to the job is different to the blind incompetence of RVN and to some extent Cooper i.e dropped Ricky, didn't play Abdul etc (I know he got injured but he wasn't playing him in any case). 

I dont hate Marti, I do hate Martin. Marti is just out of his depth, thats not his fault, its the idiots that employed him. Martin thinks he is a good football manager, the best infact. 

 

18 minutes ago, Parker Pen said:

I reckon the club will give him until after the Norwich game to turn things around, however lose the next 2 and I reckon it’s game over for him!

He needs to turn it round fast and actually do the things he talks about, domination, pressing etc as if we did that we'd be less shit. With the squad we have in this appalling division there is no excuse for not being in the top 6. 

[teblin]

People stating the country people are from is irrelevant. They are either good enough or not.

 

Edited 24 October 2025 by teblin

[ClaphamFox]

19 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

But even when people were calling for them to be sacked there weren't any mentions of their nationalities.

 

 

Ha ha - fair enough.

That Enzo thread though 

[RoboFox]

Teflon Jon is cranking his hog at the very thought of getting Brussell in. The final boss for Southampton fetishists.

[funkyrobot]

On 22/10/2025 at 07:14, South Shire Fox said:

Agree about the 17 year olds part. However, his biggest problems are that hes still playing Soumare and Faes who should be being turfed out in Jan.

- Ayew still be used as a striker which has been clear to everyone since the first game that he stifles our attack with his lack of movement.

-Thomas being our first choice LB when hes not athletic enough anymore

-Having a system that creates absolute zero oppurtunities for our strikers and just relying on individual brilliance for goals

Soumare is better than the only other senior midfielder in Skipp that’s why he plays when there’s a necessary rotation. 
 

Ayew isn’t a number 9 from a goalscoring perspective but nor is Daka. The jury is out on Carrenza and so if you assess the overall ability of the 3 players in question and what they bring to the team,  it’s hard not to play Ayew at times. Personally I’d give up on Daka and persist with Carrenza but playing Ayew when we are so limited at centre forward but have other capable players at 10 and on the wing is understandable. A quality number 9 given good game time would’ve created more chances for himself and his team than what our 3 can muster with their skillset though the jury is out in Carrenza and Ayew has many positive attributes to his game.
 

I wouldn’t play Thomas personally but then I’ve always said I even preferred a past his best James Justin playing on the left (despite having no left foot) than Thomas or VK, and maybe Marti would’ve too but the PSR situation meant he had to be sold. At the moment, with Aluko struggling to play for a full game at U23 level (keeps having to be subbed early) I’d give VK another go but I have big concerns with him defensively as I do Thomas. 

Cifuentes has had to manage the team under the most challenging PSR situation we have found ourselves in. Having to sell and not being able to buy will only weaken a squad and that’s exactly where we are now. The issue is not Cifuentes here, the issue is the mismanagement above him that has resulted in us being the only team other than administration bound Sheffield Wednesday that haven’t been able to spend ANY money.

[funkyrobot]

On 22/10/2025 at 07:24, Pliskin said:

Marti doesn’t help himself with some of the decisions he makes, but he too hasn’t been helped. 
 

It’s clear he’s been told something, because why would you just revert to playing shit like Faes? The guy plays like he couldn’t give a shit week in week out, yet continues to be played and continues to concede poor goals. 
 

The whole club is just on a downward spiral, Enzo arrested the decline just because he’s a ****ing good coach, and from day one didn’t come here and act like a rabbit in the headlights, he came here from day one and said “it’s my way or the highway, and I’ll leave if you want me too”…….. 

 

To manage this football club, you need to be a bastard, stick two fingers up to the useless board and just hope that you can let the performances and results do the talking. 
 

Otherwise Too and Rudkin clearly steer the ship, and we know that they’re incompetent and can’t do that. 
 

Part of me kind of hopes we get hammered with a points deduction, just to paper over the cracks of what is going to be a horrific season.

Enzo arrested the slide because he’s a good coach and he had a significantly better squad that Cifuentes. Vardy, KDH, Ndidi, Akgun, Praet, Iheanacho, Casadei and Doyle are better than their respective replacements in this squad. 

[trooky]

2 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

Achieved a play off win with a squad that should at the least have done that. With a playing style many saints fans despised watching. Then led them on the way to being the worst Premier league side ever because of this clueless stubbornness these managers of this philosophy have. 

 

That's the worst part for me. Wouldn't even mind it as much if they tried to show any pragmatism. 

And don't forget Rangers fans  where he needed a police escorts after a draw with Falkirk

[winteriscoming]

Who in their right mind would appoint Martin?  
We would. 
He isn’t even the best ex Southampton manager available. 
Get Hassenhutl if Cifuentes goes. 

[Pita]

2 hours ago, Parker Pen said:

I reckon the club will give him until after the Norwich game to turn things around, however lose the next 2 and I reckon it’s game over for him!

Club can’t afford to sack anyone more managers 

[MGLCFC]

17 hours ago, jv1 said:

I judge a manager on if I honestly believe I could do a lot better personally as gaffer with what we have available- I gave him benefit of the doubt first 2 months but not any more - I absolutely 100% would do a better job with our squad than he is doing and that quite frankly is pathetic - OUT

So why aren't you a professional football manager - great salary?

[Gamble92]

3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I always find it interesting who gets their nationality dragged into the conversation about their management ability. Puel got it probably the worst, and now it's starting to creep in with Marti as well. RVN didn't get it weirdly, Brendan did a bit. Enzo and Claudio didn't so I guess Italians are acceptable. 

 

Is there a reference available as to which nationalities are acceptable and which aren't? 

Have you ever done anything abroad? We get British *insert slur* anytime we do anything so I don't mind us giving that absolute Spanish twat a good seeing to.

 

(Disclaimer I'm absolutely behind Marti and do not condone calling him a Spanish Twat)

[baldeagle]

A lot of the players and the team  have been crap under every manager since and including Brendan . A lot of those players are still here and the  better ones have moved on . We’  only got 3 loan players in , I’m not sure even one of the top managers ( who wouldn’t  even come here  )  would make this shower of shit play well . Let him have another window and hope they let him sign someone . 

Edited 24 October 2025 by baldeagle

[Supergray22]

19 minutes ago, baldeagle said:

A lot of the players and the team  have been crap under every manager since and including Brendan . A lot of those players are still here and the  better ones have moved on . We’  only got 3 loan players in , I’m not sure even one of the top managers ( who wouldn’t  even come here  )  would make this shower of shit play well . Let him have another window and hope they let him sign someone . 

All very valid points. Particularly the point about being able to attract the better managers and players. For me I would give him more time but results have to improve.