Cifuentes OUT

[Silverfox14]

There is a transfer window coming up………if there is any money, would prefer someone else to be spending it as manager.  No confidence in Marti.

[Phenom]

29 minutes ago, Corky said:

Maresca had Dewsbury-Hall, Vardy, Hermansen, Iheanacho, Justin and Ndidi. He had a much better squad.

Maresca also made Vesty, Faes, Mavididi, Winks look like world beaters in this league. Marti has not made anyone better. He is a bad manager. 

Edited 25 November 2025 by Phenom

[EastAnglianFox]

How has he got to nearly December and still not been asked any tough questions about what his actual plan is and how he wants us playing.

 

What shite has he spouted tonight? No doubt blaming the decisions or the red card

[Sankey93]

He isn’t strong enough to get his ideas across the players know he’s a fraud! It’s just a matter of time before he’s sacked but hopefully we don’t leave it too late 

[sm1]

2 minutes ago, Phenom said:

Maresca also made Vesty, Faes, Mavididi, Winks look like world beaters in this league. Marti has not made anyone better. He is a bad manager. 

One manager has just beaten Barca 3-0 in the Champions League, the other has lost to Southampton 3-0 in the Championship. There's no comparison between the two. Like you say, Marti has made every player worse, resulting in one of the most rancid teams in the division, a team that can't defend or attack.

[Free Falling Foxes]

Didn't he do an absolute first class PowerPoint presentation that impressed Rudkin and therefore landed him the job?

Been downhill since then......

[EastAnglianFox]

Do you think he knows he’s shit and out of his depth?

 

Face starting to look more like a rabbit in the headlights week on week so I actually think he’s fully aware

[Sankey93]

He knows he’s out of his depth 😂 he’s ducking useless I’d actually be happy to have Martin or O’Neil over him at this stage 

[Lcfcwigstonblue]

A decent manager gets us playing so much better.

we have had many a game where we are just as good if not better than most teams (albeit fior about a 15 minute period)

We need a manager that will have us looking like scoring a goal at some point.

[Nods]

1 hour ago, Silverfox14 said:

There is a transfer window coming up………if there is any money, would prefer someone else to be spending it as manager.  No confidence in Marti.

You're in for a shock if you think we're spending in this window 

[Dan]

3 hours ago, JonnyBoy said:

I saw enough first half of shef Wednesday. Knew within 45 minutes where our season was heading. 

Yep. Easiest game you could ever possibly have at this level. Forget their form over the whole season - that was a club with barely a team together who hadn't had a single friendly. I genuinely think the majority of this forum could've managed a win that day, and we nearly didn't.

[Dan]

3 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

Nah. You've gone too far here

 

3 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

IT'S THE PLAYERS!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(as well as the manager)

I haven't. In-fact I'm quite confident we'd be doing better. Because as terrible as he was, he was at least starting to force some of these players out. As it is we've got the same inept tactics but have cowered to the players yet again.

 

Everything about the club is weak and spineless. Winks waved straight back in after his antics last season. The whole club just allows these dreadful players to take the piss. Van Nistelrooy was at least trying to put some sort of stop to that if nothing else. Well now we have literally nothing else.

 

We need a radical manager. Not a bloke who paid to be a part of this mess.

[Dan]

3 hours ago, Nods said:

It's a funny scenario really. I can't recall anything similar following us. 

 

Not much point sacking him, even though I don't think he's the answer. 

 

Our squad really is the pits. You can only really make an argument for us being strong on the wings, and even there we have players bang out of form. We are not getting promoted. We're simply not good enough even without the incoming points deduction.

 

Equally I don't think we'll go down because he seems to have the players drilled enough to squeeze out results against poorer opposition.

 

So what's the point sacking him? We can't afford unnecessary expenses. 

 

As boring and tedious as it is, the sensible thing to do is probably to keep ambling on in Championship mediocrity until we can truly drain the swamp and start spending again.

 

The sooner fans realise we're in this for the long haul, the better. We've fvcked it beyond (immediate) repair. 

 

I'm encouraged we're on the lookout for this Technical Director. It (hopefully) points towards a realisation for a need to rebuild. Until we're rid of the likes of Faes, Vesty, Winks, Ayew, even Pereira, that can't happen. 

 

It's rare that such fundamental rebuilds bear fruit within a year, so we're probably looking at the rest of this season and next to consolidate. 

 

If finances allow, maybe we'll twist in the summer, allowing a Pearson mould of manager to begin and hopefully see through the rebuild. 

 

In my mind, Cifuentes is a caretaker.

 

We're in for the dullest period of following this club in recent memory.

This is kind of fair but it makes one big mistake - it's allowing those who got us into this mess another chance which they don't deserve. I'm not willing to gamble a lot of time on this lot.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Marti has been dealt a really tough hand given how many players have ended up still here stinking the gaff out despite wanting out. However Marti does seem absolutely wedded to this 4-2-3-1 system even though we have barely had a recognised number 10 available all season. 
 

This has been a massive issue as I feel our shape has been unbalanced with a square peg in a round hole most games hence our lack of fluidity. Surely it would have been more sensible to play with a single pivot and 2 higher 8’s similar to the shape Enzo used. It certainly would be better than playing JJ out of position especially when he is head and shoulders above the rest of our team. 
 

This tactical stubbornness is having an impact and definitely influencing performances and results and given the options available I am at a loss as to why he is so rigid and continuing to persist with it. 
 

I have a lot of sympathy for what he has inherited it’s nothing like when Enzo came in however I am finding some of his team selections, tactics, shape and substitutions absolutely baffling. 
 

There has been a massive change in his approach since the Fiorentina friendly and some of the personnel he has deployed since the transfer window closed which suggests some influence from elsewhere but beside that he is looking and like a man who knows his race has been run. 

[StriderHiryu]

5 hours ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Do you think he knows he’s shit and out of his depth?

 

Face starting to look more like a rabbit in the headlights week on week so I actually think he’s fully aware

I think he does, his body language is quite telling. He looked like a dead man walking on the touch line against Norwich till JJ saved him. 
 

I think he’s expecting to be called into Top’s office any day now. 

[1972 Fox]

58 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

I think he’s expecting to be called into Top’s office any day now. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think he does, his body language is quite telling. He looked like a dead man walking on the touch line against Norwich till JJ saved him. 
 

I think he’s expecting to be called into Top’s office any day now. 

I think this has been brewing since before the Blackburn defeat, the Middlesbrough and Norwich results gave him a stay of execution, however the performances were far from convincing and I think last nights horror show will see him lose his job. 
 

It felt like his position was on a knife edge and the one thing he can ill afford was a result and performance like last night. 
 

I think the old corner flag shot will be posted in the next day or two. 

[Raj]

If we  want be blades on Saturday  he can feck off

[teblin]

I know we have players that are stinking the place out, I know we are struggling for someone up top(though that wasn’t the issue last night). But 3 wins in 13 matches in this division is poor and one of those was against Norwich who a terrible. I want Marti to be good and do well, but I just don’t think he will.

 

[TheStig]

27 minutes ago, 1972 Fox said:

The Siamese twins?

[Parker Pen]

1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think he does, his body language is quite telling. He looked like a dead man walking on the touch line against Norwich till JJ saved him. 
 

I think he’s expecting to be called into Top’s office any day now. 

I hope you are right! Individual performances and moments of quality have kept him n the job so far!

it’s the tactics and shape that a decent manager instills that gives the players confidence . At the moment we have none of the above.
 

Let’s also not forget that was an interim manager promoted from the under 21s that schooled us last night, not someone who had managed 100 championship games.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

7 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Didn't he do an absolute first class PowerPoint presentation that impressed Rudkin and therefore landed him the job?

Been downhill since then......

So the media were told. But clearly he was just the cheap option. I said it a few times last night, but his first pro management job was in 2018 in Norway. Prior to that he’d had a 2 year employment gap and stints in semi pro management. Massively out of his depth irrespective of how good his PPT slides were. Surely anyone just looking at his CV would have realised coming to us was a HUGE leap.

[Bellend Sebastian]

48 minutes ago, Raj said:

If we  want be blades on Saturday  he can feck off

Oh Christ I've just remembered I'm going to that

[Pliskin]

8 hours ago, Phenom said:

Maresca also made Vesty, Faes, Mavididi, Winks look like world beaters in this league. Marti has not made anyone better. He is a bad manager. 

Justin and Kalechi also didn’t feature all the time……

[Donwebbio]

If we are going to sack yet another manager, let's at least do it properly. Let's first employ the best Technical Director we can afford abd attract. Then we allow him to fully understand the club dynamics, current squad, finances. Then he makes a recommendation to the rest of the board about direction of travel and the manager to implement the vision on the pitch. 

 

The new Tech Director will probably be a yes man and probably be agent recommend, but it would still be the right way to do things and we all want Aiya (t)watt to do things the right way if he insists on hanging around.