kingfox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February The current availability list is littered with names who probably wouldn’t touch us at this moment in time, or are too inexperienced for the current position we find ourselves in. Whether fans like it or not, we either need someone with experience, or someone who is used to dealing with teams in the mix for relegation. Gary Rowett Bo Henriksen Or you try for an experienced head like Mowbray. 3
ClaphamFox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 2 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: Yeh it’s crazy after two weeks there hasn’t even been a link of some sort by a reputable source apart from us trying Enzo 😂 We’re probably trying to get someone to take it on an interim basis to the end of the season and everyone we approach is telling us to do one. 1
Silebyfox_89 Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 38 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: Something firstly that gets the players energised, someone who can come in with a clear system that they implemented at their previous club. Easy buy-in process so the implementation can be swift. Someone who we can see to build a project here akin to what we planned out for Maresca. Lastly, the names I mentioned in my last post are easy cop-outs for the board because they're already in the EFL system so it really didn't take any sort of knowledge in scouting them. Most importantly, none of the names mentioned demand respect and will result similarly to Cifuentes. Its to a point where players are going behind the manager's back to speak to Rudkin. So whom then? 😅
Pita Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 9 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: We’re probably trying to get someone to take it on an interim basis to the end of the season and everyone we approach is telling us to do one. Can’t blame them we are such a 💩 show at the moment
Lionator Posted 8 February Posted 8 February It’s mental that it’s been two weeks and there’s no been anything close to a credible rumour, which means we likely haven’t even approach a single person. It’s insane. 2
South Shire Fox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February (edited) Surely for now you just get a steady eddie in on a 6 month contract. Some one who has experience of managing clubs in the shit in England and galvanising them. Decent bonus for keeping us up with the potential for something longer term if they do a good job. Unfortunately from listening to how deluded our owner is, they will still be thinking of making the playoffs so wont even have been considering this a relegation dog fight Edited 8 February by South Shire Fox 4
Eskay Posted 8 February Posted 8 February I think it's more likely that they hire a technical director and possibly CEO first. Keep king in post for the rest of the season because they think there is no way we go down. Then new manager in summer. 1
Lesta Legend Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 11 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: If I had a sophisticated manager scouting database I'd provide a list, but that is something you expect from any top-level club. We as fans don't need to have the names ready, it could be someone we haven't heard of. Who spoke about Glasner before he went Palace? Iraola before he went Bournemouth? So we shouldn’t get actual real life manager’s we know could be realistic targets (the big one in all this discussion), that at the very least would organise a team defensively, that may have experience in our current scenario but expect the club to utilise a sophisticated analytical process to find a manager that is hitting certain performance markers and displaying certain behavioural traits that we’re desperate for that will help us avoid relegation. There aren’t any discernible alternatives we can go for, that’s for the birds. We know the club doesn’t operate like this anymore and I’m certain the decisions are made on agency introduction and / or a good interview. So good managers you mention are likely harder to come across without a good sound rational /analytical approach to a search. We’d already have managers lined up as they’ll have been on a researched list and it have been obvious for a while where this was heading, we aren’t so lucky with Top and Rudkin. The situation we find ourselves in means we don’t have the time to mess about. I’m pragmatic about this and I don’t trust the club can afford to really push to pay compensation. Our options are limited and not one person has offered any realistic managerial target other than the boring alternatives offered, its our market position now
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 8 February Popular Post Posted 8 February 46 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: Yes it is very late in the season, it depends how the board want to go about it. If they bring in a guy for the short-term, is he going to accept a 6 month contract? If they bring in a guy for the short-term and give him a 3 year contract, will that harm us in the future? If they bring in a long-term project manager, how quickly can he pick up results? This would require a manager that emphasises the skills and covers the flaws of the squad, someone that can identify how and where best to use the players at hand. Maresca had a pre-season yes, however we started to see his tactics from day 1 against Liverpool in Singapore. I'm confident a competent manager can get his tactics ticking straight away. It has to be a 6 month contract with a big bonus to make it attractive. I'd take for example Rowett or Mowbray on that basis. Then start the rebuild (which i still have my doubts over, but Top will either prove himself true to his word or a fibber) 6
dbtcity Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 16 minutes ago, Lionator said: It’s mental that it’s been two weeks and there’s no been anything close to a credible rumour, which means we likely haven’t even approach a single person. It’s insane. It’s Groundhog Day……. Again
BrilliantFox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said: So we shouldn’t get actual real life manager’s we know could be realistic targets (the big one in all this discussion), that at the very least would organise a team defensively, that may have experience in our current scenario but expect the club to utilise a sophisticated analytical process to find a manager that is hitting certain performance markers and displaying certain behavioural traits that we’re desperate for that will help us avoid relegation. There aren’t any discernible alternatives we can go for, that’s for the birds. We know the club doesn’t operate like this anymore and I’m certain the decisions are made on agency introduction and / or a good interview. So good managers you mention are likely harder to come across without a good sound rational /analytical approach to a search. We’d already have managers lined up as they’ll have been on a researched list and it have been obvious for a while where this was heading, we aren’t so lucky with Top and Rudkin. The situation we find ourselves in means we don’t have the time to mess about. I’m pragmatic about this and I don’t trust the club can afford to really push to pay compensation. Our options are limited and not one person has offered any realistic managerial target other than the boring alternatives offered, its our market position now 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: It has to be a 6 month contract with a big bonus to make it attractive. I'd take for example Rowett or Mowbray on that basis. Then start the rebuild (which i still have my doubts over, but Top will either prove himself true to his word or a fibber) I'd be ok if we bring in a manager strictly on a 6 month contract, with the understanding there will be no such contract extension. Shake hands at the end of the season and goodbye. But I just can't trust the club to be that sensible. They're the type to keep the interim on a permanent. The rebuild MUST happen in the summer with the Technical Director first. Rudkin needs to give full footballing and philosophical authority to the Technical Director to allow him to build a squad in the image he wants alongside a new competent manager. Edited 8 February by BrilliantFox 1
winteriscoming Posted 8 February Author Posted 8 February Bo Svensson Bo Henriksen Both have experience with Mainz keeping them up. Obviously we won’t even consider them but I live in hope. 1
Mickyblueeyes Posted 8 February Posted 8 February I was just thinking today. Rudkin has such a poor reputation in the wider football community, combine with Top being known as a dumbass, is there a chance that even people like Rowett etc. are just turning us down. Without an interview etc. The idea to work with a man who has failed miserably. Lied continually. The expectations at this club. The shit squad, the lack of transfer activity. Capable board. Missing directors. Maybe no one wants it
Craig Posted 8 February Posted 8 February We all know this already and it's not the first time, but it's simply negligent not to have a management/coaching team in place at such a critical stage in the history of the club. If I didn't know any better I'd suspect it was sabotage...
Jattdogg Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 10 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Bo Svensson Bo Henriksen Both have experience with Mainz keeping them up. Obviously we won’t even consider them but I live in hope. At this point I'd take Bo Derek. 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 8 February Posted 8 February Just now, Jattdogg said: At this point I'd take Bo Derek. Or Bo Diddly 2
Nolucklcfc Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I was just thinking today. Rudkin has such a poor reputation in the wider football community, combine with Top being known as a dumbass, is there a chance that even people like Rowett etc. are just turning us down. Without an interview etc. The idea to work with a man who has failed miserably. Lied continually. The expectations at this club. The shit squad, the lack of transfer activity. Capable board. Missing directors. Maybe no one wants it I think that’s very likely. Word gets around …
RizLCFC Posted 8 February Posted 8 February https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/15898936/rangers-russell-martin-favourite-huge-manager-job/ It’s happening, the final nail in the coffin. 1
MGLCFC Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 8 minutes ago, Jattdogg said: At this point I'd take Bo Derek. Me first 1
grth2004 Posted 8 February Posted 8 February Gary Rowett is an horrendous choice to be considered. I know beggars can’t be choosers but he failed everywhere he’s been and although he’s an ex player he’s not exactly a club legend. Plus ex Derby manager just to make him even less desirable.
BrilliantFox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February (edited) 4 minutes ago, RizLCFC said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/15898936/rangers-russell-martin-favourite-huge-manager-job/ It’s happening, the final nail in the coffin. I just realised they've planned it in time for back-to-back matches against Southampton. Rudkin will see this as "Brussel's revenge" against Southampton. Will KPFC finally turn on the ownership if Brussel is hired? Edited 8 February by BrilliantFox 1
teblin Posted 8 February Posted 8 February What a nothing article, not saying it won’t be him. But it’s just like me doing this. He’s been about those odds for 3 or 4 days. 1
Dan Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 13 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I was just thinking today. Rudkin has such a poor reputation in the wider football community, combine with Top being known as a dumbass, is there a chance that even people like Rowett etc. are just turning us down. Without an interview etc. The idea to work with a man who has failed miserably. Lied continually. The expectations at this club. The shit squad, the lack of transfer activity. Capable board. Missing directors. Maybe no one wants it Anybody with a brain wouldn't touch us. I actually lose faith instantly in anybody who would choose to work for these lot. King will be our manager at Blackburn.
SafewayFox Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 23 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: I was just thinking today. Rudkin has such a poor reputation in the wider football community, combine with Top being known as a dumbass, is there a chance that even people like Rowett etc. are just turning us down. Without an interview etc. The idea to work with a man who has failed miserably. Lied continually. The expectations at this club. The shit squad, the lack of transfer activity. Capable board. Missing directors. Maybe no one wants it Whilst I can’t disagree with the reputation of our two dimwits. Rowett wouldn’t have ever had a chance to manage us before, reckon that it’s too big a gig for him to sniff at.
UniFox21 Posted 8 February Posted 8 February 27 minutes ago, Dan said: Anybody with a brain wouldn't touch us. I actually lose faith instantly in anybody who would choose to work for these lot. King will be our manager at Blackburn. Its win:win for any manager. Do you correct the downfall of a club with a brilliant infrastructure or you're paid handsomely to be sacked 2
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