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Popped into Grimsbys the other day and noticed the menu and prices have changed.

 

Was told that the previous owner sold it and that the new owner now only has Halal only food!

 

No pork savaloys or bear battered cod on the menu !

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1 hour ago, Evington Fosse Fox said:

Popped into Grimsbys the other day and noticed the menu and prices have changed.

 

Was told that the previous owner sold it and that the new owner now only has Halal only food!

 

No pork savaloys or bear battered cod on the menu !

What is going on in the world? Just can't bear it these days. 

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1 minute ago, Wymsey said:

Is Halal the most-ethical approach to preparation?

Meh.

 

Animal dies at the end of the day. 

 

The difference it makes to the consumer is probably very little (I know I'm probably being quite naive here). 

 

Most meat most people eat is halal unless someone makes a point about it. Then there's the uproar. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Meh.

 

Animal dies at the end of the day. 

 

The difference it makes to the consumer is probably very little (I know I'm probably being quite naive here). 

 

Most meat most people eat is halal unless someone makes a point about it. Then there's the uproar. 

 

 

I don’t think that most meat people eat is halal(in the UK as a whole- Leicester more than likely though) but there is no doubt that the animal is still dead regardless. I believe there is an exemption under UK law for religious slaughter- Kosher as well. This should be removed. Although, a lot of halal meat is stunned anyway. 
There should be options for everyone. The five guys in town was changed to halal. They now don’t serve beer, and you can’t get bacon in a cheeseburger. Surely just having the option for halal meat but keeping bacon and beer as an option, would have been fairer.

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Once arguably the best chippie in Leicester.

Grimsby fisheries has been declining for years.

Quality food cooked properly was the mantra several years ago but it's like the owners didn't give a fvck recently.

They had a separate area where you could tuck into Fish n chips on a real plate using real metal cutlery but that hasn't been the case for several years.

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3 hours ago, westernpark said:

I don’t think that most meat people eat is halal(in the UK as a whole- Leicester more than likely though) but there is no doubt that the animal is still dead regardless. I believe there is an exemption under UK law for religious slaughter- Kosher as well. This should be removed. Although, a lot of halal meat is stunned anyway. 
There should be options for everyone. The five guys in town was changed to halal. They now don’t serve beer, and you can’t get bacon in a cheeseburger. Surely just having the option for halal meat but keeping bacon and beer as an option, would have been fairer.

Afaik, you can’t have halal and bacon in the same prep area. So that would cause issues.  Adding costs too. 
 

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3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Afaik, you can’t have halal and bacon in the same prep area. So that would cause issues.  Adding costs too. 
 

That’s where there should be a compromise.

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4 hours ago, StanSP said:

Meh.

 

Animal dies at the end of the day. 

 

The difference it makes to the consumer is probably very little (I know I'm probably being quite naive here). 

 

Most meat most people eat is halal unless someone makes a point about it. Then there's the uproar. 

 

 

Of course the animal still dies at the end but there is an argument to say slitting its throat and letting it bleed to death isn’t the quickest way it can die and therefore anyone that’s slightly conflicted about eating meat, Might be less inclined to eat it.

 

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4 hours ago, westernpark said:

I don’t think that most meat people eat is halal(in the UK as a whole- Leicester more than likely though) but there is no doubt that the animal is still dead regardless. I believe there is an exemption under UK law for religious slaughter- Kosher as well. This should be removed. Although, a lot of halal meat is stunned anyway. 
There should be options for everyone. The five guys in town was changed to halal. They now don’t serve beer, and you can’t get bacon in a cheeseburger. Surely just having the option for halal meat but keeping bacon and beer as an option, would have been fairer.

I once asked a Muslim about how Halal and Kosher were different (you know, because sensible, level-headed Muslims who won't kill you for mentioning Jews actually do exist) because they're quite similar to me as an outsider (infidel)

 

Apparently meat becomes halal by being prayed over. From that point of view, most meat almost certainly isn't halal, unless Muslims have a disproportionate number of meat-eaters.

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12 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I once asked a Muslim about how Halal and Kosher were different (you know, because sensible, level-headed Muslims who won't kill you for mentioning Jews actually do exist) because they're quite similar to me as an outsider (infidel)

 

Apparently meat becomes halal by being prayed over. From that point of view, most meat almost certainly isn't halal, unless Muslims have a disproportionate number of meat-eaters.

Kosher and Halal methods are very similar. The prayer but also the method are both important in making it halal. The same for Kosher as I understand it. Kosher meat  is also considered halal by the largest Sunni Muslim group. 
 

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1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

I once asked a Muslim about how Halal and Kosher were different (you know, because sensible, level-headed Muslims who won't kill you for mentioning Jews actually do exist) because they're quite similar to me as an outsider (infidel)

 

Apparently meat becomes halal by being prayed over. From that point of view, most meat almost certainly isn't halal, unless Muslims have a disproportionate number of meat-eaters.

Also the halal method is considered unethical by many animal rights group.  Some halal meat the animal may not be stunned before there throut is slit, causong additional trauma to the animal.  Also the halal meat is stunned, the process is stunned at a lower level than non halal meat, meaning the animal is more conscious amd hence causing more trauma.

 

Many nations have banned halal meat including denmark and sweden i believe.

 

The prayer part is a record or tape thats constantly played.

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27 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Also the halal method is considered unethical by many animal rights group.  Some halal meat the animal may not be stunned before there throut is slit, causong additional trauma to the animal.  Also the halal meat is stunned, the process is stunned at a lower level than non halal meat, meaning the animal is more conscious amd hence causing more trauma.

 

Many nations have banned halal meat including denmark and sweden i believe.

 

The prayer part is a record or tape thats constantly played.

Not in the majority. The majority certificate require it verbally said. I think the same applies to Kosher.

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3 minutes ago, Evington Fosse Fox said:

Knighton, Ayestone Welford Road is rapidly pulliing in people of the Islamamic.

 

This was in the news last week....went through even with objections...

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-leicester-mosque-former-sports-10610298

Yeah bro, especially that Welford Road ****. Too many traffic lights and always trying to pull people to islamamammic. 
 

You need to go out and buy Grimsby fisheries back. Save us all. Just offer him double what he paid. Bring back the saveloy. Easy work. 

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2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

Also the halal method is considered unethical by many animal rights group.  Some halal meat the animal may not be stunned before there throut is slit, causong additional trauma to the animal.  Also the halal meat is stunned, the process is stunned at a lower level than non halal meat, meaning the animal is more conscious amd hence causing more trauma.

 

Many nations have banned halal meat including denmark and sweden i believe.

 

The prayer part is a record or tape thats constantly played.

UK would never ban it, there would be riots in Bradford, Birmingham, Luton,Leicester  etc etc...

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1 hour ago, Raj said:

UK would never ban it, there would be riots in Bradford, Birmingham, Luton,Leicester  etc etc...

Denmark and Sweden have banned meat which is not stunned within their countries. That means it effectively ends Kosher methods which is 100% not stunned and 20% of halal meat which is not stunned. Neither country has banned halal or kosher meat - both can and are imported. 
 

It’s effectively outlawed the religious slaughter of kosher meat and halal meat within the countries but both countries still have halal and kosher meat restaurants and people are free to eat the imported meat of both. Swedens ban has been in place since 1937 and 1988 but the Jewish community has been free to eat the imported meat. 

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