Reg Vardy Posted 7 January Posted 7 January Three points, Bosman makes it easy for a player to see out his contract, that is what a contract does…..so it’s harsh to heap all the blame on Rudkin Regards Abdul all players are only worth what someone will pay for them…..and that’s what we’ll get, Palace obviously feel he is worth what they paid. West Ham are currently repeating what we did, and will be left with expensive players nobody wants, Hermandsen springs to mind, and there are others…. 1
fox_up_north Posted 7 January Posted 7 January Unsure whether he goes this window. Can't see anyone desperate enough to take the plunge and he wouldn't be a punt for some club. If we lose him mid season, coupled with points deduction above 6 and we're definitely looking at double drop to League One. It's whether we hypothetically take £30 million now and risk the drop or £20 million in summer having finished 20th after deduction.
Gamble92 Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 23 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: Unsure whether he goes this window. Can't see anyone desperate enough to take the plunge and he wouldn't be a punt for some club. If we lose him mid season, coupled with points deduction above 6 and we're definitely looking at double drop to League One. It's whether we hypothetically take £30 million now and risk the drop or £20 million in summer having finished 20th after deduction. God this is a bit negative. We won't finish 20th 2
Popular Post MPH Posted 8 January Popular Post Posted 8 January 57 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: Unsure whether he goes this window. Can't see anyone desperate enough to take the plunge and he wouldn't be a punt for some club. If we lose him mid season, coupled with points deduction above 6 and we're definitely looking at double drop to League One. It's whether we hypothetically take £30 million now and risk the drop or £20 million in summer having finished 20th after deduction. he’s scored 6 and assisted 11 in an absolutely awful Leicester team, despite being double and sometimes triple-marked. thats an outstanding contribution and worthy of notice. 10
TJB-fox Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 5 hours ago, Gamble92 said: God this is a bit negative. We won't finish 20th You’re right that is ridiculous. 22nd. 1
fox_up_north Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 12 hours ago, Gamble92 said: God this is a bit negative. We won't finish 20th After deduction. If season finished now and we were deducted 6 points, we'd finish 18th. 9 points and it's 20th. A deduction is coming. The club will have to weigh up what they do if an offer comes in during this window. Big enough offer they may take the money and risk losing what he brings, in the hope it pays off financially. They may look at Birmingham and say "what's one year in League One?" There's also the fact Abdul may think "sod off" to finishing mid table in Championship if he gets offered top flight football.
fox_up_north Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 12 hours ago, MPH said: he’s scored 6 and assisted 11 in an absolutely awful Leicester team, despite being double and sometimes triple-marked. thats an outstanding contribution and worthy of notice. It is but there's the January premium and whether anyone wants to plonk for him now, when they could get him for less in summer. Is there anyone currently in dire need of a winger who has the money to justify it? The bottom 3 of EPL look sorted, so they won't bother. I can't speak for European teams as I don't really follow them but I can't see any of them, barring Spain, ponying up £20+ million for a January winger.
HankMarvin Posted 8 January Posted 8 January (edited) 12 hours ago, MPH said: he’s scored 6 and assisted 11 in an absolutely awful Leicester team, despite being double and sometimes triple-marked. thats an outstanding contribution and worthy of notice. 5 goals and 7 assists or 1 g/a every 439 mins I wouldn’t say outstanding, but he has scored some eye catching goals which will hopefully grab the attention of some prem clubs Thomas at Stoke has 9 goals 7 assists from LM despite them scoring 5 less than us this season a goal or assist every 253 mins Josh Murphy played in a pony team last season and would’ve had defenders doing the same and managed 7 and 14. Maybe we should look at Thomas if he is sold and move Mavididi to CF or SS where he has played over 100 games. Ayew on the right wing where he has played nearly 150 or get new players in with some of the funds Edited 8 January by HankMarvin 2
Wink84 Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 20 hours ago, Stadt said: We've maintained a positive (as in purchases/sales +/-) transfer record throughout this whole saga. We've spent remarkably little on transfers to be in such a financial mess and where we were in the table. We've just never managed the wage bill Which seems to always come back to our negotiation skills as a club, whether that be Rudkin or someone else. We've been overpaying for a long time and that's why were in the position we are. Or inability to move unwanted players on is just as bad as our ability to buy good or bad players. 1
Gamble92 Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 1 hour ago, fox_up_north said: After deduction. If season finished now and we were deducted 6 points, we'd finish 18th. 9 points and it's 20th. A deduction is coming. The club will have to weigh up what they do if an offer comes in during this window. Big enough offer they may take the money and risk losing what he brings, in the hope it pays off financially. They may look at Birmingham and say "what's one year in League One?" There's also the fact Abdul may think "sod off" to finishing mid table in Championship if he gets offered top flight football. You sound like you're willing it to happen? I think the club will hold out until the summer on Fatawu. Id be surprised if they accept anything now. They were still talking about believing they can make the play offs even with a deduction (deluded I know) from reports. So I think they will know without Fatawu that becomes impossible.
moore_94 Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: 5 goals and 7 assists or 1 g/a every 439 mins I wouldn’t say outstanding, but he has scored some eye catching goals which will hopefully grab the attention of some prem clubs Thomas at Stoke has 9 goals 7 assists from LM despite them scoring 5 less than us this season a goal or assist every 253 mins Josh Murphy played in a pony team last season and would’ve had defenders doing the same and managed 7 and 14. Maybe we should look at Thomas if he is sold and move Mavididi to CF or SS where he has played over 100 games. Ayew on the right wing where he has played nearly 150 or get new players in with some of the funds Your figures are minutes per goal, not minutes per goal or assist Fatawu is a goal or assist every 183 minutes Thomas is a goal or assist every 143 minutes Thomas has done better but the Fatawu stat is still very good 1
MPH Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 2 hours ago, HankMarvin said: 5 goals and 7 assists or 1 g/a every 439 mins I wouldn’t say outstanding, but he has scored some eye catching goals which will hopefully grab the attention of some prem clubs Thomas at Stoke has 9 goals 7 assists from LM despite them scoring 5 less than us this season a goal or assist every 253 mins Josh Murphy played in a pony team last season and would’ve had defenders doing the same and managed 7 and 14. Maybe we should look at Thomas if he is sold and move Mavididi to CF or SS where he has played over 100 games. Ayew on the right wing where he has played nearly 150 or get new players in with some of the funds did you really just suggest we play Ayew on the right wing?
HankMarvin Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 14 minutes ago, MPH said: did you really just suggest we play Ayew on the right wing? Yeah the same position he played games in the premier league. What’s your point
MPH Posted 8 January Posted 8 January (edited) 39 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Yeah the same position he played games in the premier league. What’s your point That he was younger. And not as slow. Wouldn’t that be obvious what my point was? That he’d bee even worse on the wing than what he has been doing as a 9 or 10? Edited 8 January by MPH
HankMarvin Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 33 minutes ago, MPH said: That he was younger. And not as slow. Wouldn’t that be obvious what my point was? That he’d bee even worse on the wing than what he has been doing as a 9 or 10? He played games for us there last season plus 21 for Palace the year before and it’s not a given he would be worse, when he plays striker he comes far to deep often in the wrong position whether that’s a byproduct of not receiving the ball enough or just being a shit forward is up for debate. Playing as a winger and doing it would be more beneficial for supporting the play. At the end of the day the club doesn’t have the luxury of buying new players for every position so it’s about maximising what we can out of underperforming players. As per the original point if Fatawu was sold and it meant someone could come in and replace his output or exceed it and that also meant we could get a striker, Ayew wouldn’t have to perform that well on the right to replicate what Mavididi has contributed in terms of goals and assists if the left side of play become the focal point instead.
Pliskin Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 17 hours ago, MPH said: he’s scored 6 and assisted 11 in an absolutely awful Leicester team, despite being double and sometimes triple-marked. thats an outstanding contribution and worthy of notice. He’s been hampered by Marti’s tactics (or lack thereof) our horrifically slow build up play, and reliance on him and James to do everything. In a better team he would be amazing… 1
MPH Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: He played games for us there last season plus 21 for Palace the year before and it’s not a given he would be worse, when he plays striker he comes far to deep often in the wrong position whether that’s a byproduct of not receiving the ball enough or just being a shit forward is up for debate. Playing as a winger and doing it would be more beneficial for supporting the play. At the end of the day the club doesn’t have the luxury of buying new players for every position so it’s about maximising what we can out of underperforming players. As per the original point if Fatawu was sold and it meant someone could come in and replace his output or exceed it and that also meant we could get a striker, Ayew wouldn’t have to perform that well on the right to replicate what Mavididi has contributed in terms of goals and assists if the left side of play become the focal point instead. and he’s a year older from last year and two years older than when he played there for Palace. He’s 34. He’s getting slower. His days as a right winger are well and truly over.
Pliskin Posted 8 January Posted 8 January He will go IMO. Bournemouth can afford to pay £30m and probably will. 2
Pita Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: He will go IMO. Bournemouth can afford to pay £30m and probably will. He will go but less than £30m 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 8 January Posted 8 January Well if Bournemouth can get 62.5m for Semenyo that that certainly makes Fatawu a 30m minimum January player and they can definitely afford him.
MPH Posted 9 January Posted 9 January 12 hours ago, fox_up_north said: It is but there's the January premium and whether anyone wants to plonk for him now, when they could get him for less in summer. Is there anyone currently in dire need of a winger who has the money to justify it? The bottom 3 of EPL look sorted, so they won't bother. I can't speak for European teams as I don't really follow them but I can't see any of them, barring Spain, ponying up £20+ million for a January winger. if you really want to know, my fear is Forest. You might as well stick the knife into me and twist it 20 times if he signs for Forest… 1
ozleicester Posted 9 January Posted 9 January Strikers/Wingers in January have an instant extra 20%... If he goes this window, it should be for $33-37
smudger63 Posted 9 January Posted 9 January Bournemouth hoping to get Nwaneri on loan for the rest of the season. Whether Arsenal will okay it is another matter, but would make sense from Bournemouth's point of view. Buying in January is generally a higher price, and especially given that everyone knows they've just received 62 million quid. We would probably get more for Fatawu this month from someone desperate than we will in the summer though. It's just whether anyone's desperate enough.
coolhandfox Posted 9 January Posted 9 January Keeping in mind he still has over 10m amortisation left of our books we could do with any fee being over 30m
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