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Hypothetically. O'Neil Vs Pearson  

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  1. 1. If one could come back 1 final time to save us

    • Martin O'Neill
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    • Nigel Pearson
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Short term, O'Neill. Had an instant impact at Celtic between the putrid end to Rodgers' reign and Nancy's catastrophic start. Technically more successful than Pearson here but the game has moved on too much for him to be a long-term solution, I feel. For half a season, I think he'd send us on a big run to the playoffs and we'd win them.

 

Longer term, Pearson, if we're looking for a manager to build a legacy. His first stint was an instant turnaround but in his second he needed time to change a bloated, poorly recruited squad into one that sang from the same hymn sheet and played for one another as a band of brothers. We may sneak 6th with Nige, we might not. But he'd set us up for a few seasons of success, I think, and leave us in a really good place whether that would be in one, two or five years' time.

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38 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Nigel Pearson is the greatest manager we’ve ever had. That team of Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh set us up for things none of us ever imagined. 
 

O’neil was a great manager and him and Robertson were awesome. 
 

But for actual building a club, setting up processes, foundations, Nige will always be the greatest. Barca had Cruyff. United Busby and Ferguson. Liverpool Shankly. Nige was ours. I’ll be surprised if we ever get anyone that influential ever again. 

To be the greatest you should really have done it at the highest level. I'm not saying NP couldn't have done it he'd stayed, but he didn't. 

 

Having said that the great escape was probably my favourite two months supporting the club and this MON vs NP debate is quite tedious.

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13 minutes ago, bovril said:

To be the greatest you should really have done it at the highest level. I'm not saying NP couldn't have done it he'd stayed, but he didn't. 

 

Having said that the great escape was probably my favourite two months supporting the club and this MON vs NP debate is quite tedious.

There will always be an opinion as to who sits at number 1. The legacy of his time here and what followed wins it for me. We did it on the bigger stage because of what he and his team built. Always felt “safe” with Nige, Shakey and Walsh. 

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5 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

There will always be an opinion as to who sits at number 1. The legacy of his time here and what followed wins it for me. We did it on the bigger stage because of what he and his team built. Always felt “safe” with Nige, Shakey and Walsh. 

I had the same feeling with O'Neill. In a one off game I wouldn't pick anyone else - I don't think anyone ever got team selection wrong less than him.

 

But very different managers in very different eras for the club. 

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Sentimentally I’d go O’Neil first manager I remember properly and we had success. In terms of who would do better out of the two I think Pearson, so he got my vote. 

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3 minutes ago, bovril said:

I had the same feeling with O'Neill. In a one off game I wouldn't pick anyone else - I don't think anyone ever got team selection wrong less than him.

 

But very different managers in very different eras for the club. 

O’Neil man management was extraordinary- so many players who just fell off once he left. For example, Phil Gilchrist who I’m certain would’ve been the next in the line of Prior, Elliott, Taggart of very solid cbs. Looked very good if I remember rightly in the last few months under O’Neil (after a slow start. Seemed to disappear after he left. 
 

Different eras, both great managers. 

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1 hour ago, Aleksz said:

Prefer Nige and he’s more my era, but even before his health issues his career took a bit of a wobble - think he struggles without Shakey (:cry:) and Walsh. 
 

MON done a job more recently I guess even if it was Scotland. 

Tbf it appears he’s done the job at Bristol City, we badly need here 

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11 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

O’Neil man management was extraordinary- so many players who just fell off once he left. For example, Phil Gilchrist who I’m certain would’ve been the next in the line of Prior, Elliott, Taggart of very solid cbs. Looked very good if I remember rightly in the last few months under O’Neil (after a slow start. Seemed to disappear after he left. 
 

Different eras, both great managers. 

O'Neill was great at taking pressure off the players. Pearson did too in a slightly more unorthodox way. Obviously Ranieri got it down to a fine art in 2016.

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2 hours ago, ALC Fox said:

Short term, O'Neill. Had an instant impact at Celtic between the putrid end to Rodgers' reign and Nancy's catastrophic start. Technically more successful than Pearson here but the game has moved on too much for him to be a long-term solution, I feel. For half a season, I think he'd send us on a big run to the playoffs and we'd win them.

 

Longer term, Pearson, if we're looking for a manager to build a legacy. His first stint was an instant turnaround but in his second he needed time to change a bloated, poorly recruited squad into one that sang from the same hymn sheet and played for one another as a band of brothers. We may sneak 6th with Nige, we might not. But he'd set us up for a few seasons of success, I think, and leave us in a really good place whether that would be in one, two or five years' time.

Nailed this. 

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Rather than getting them back in to manage, could we not hire them in some capacity to sort out the mess we're in. Give them control over hiring a new technical director, a new head of recruitment, Glover is clearly shite, and a new young ambitious manager. The great Pearson & O'neil rest. 

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I worship at the altar of Nige and if he wasn’t so unwell I’d have him back in a heartbeat. Can’t imagine any of the twats that ‘play’ for us would get away with anything under him. 
 

Would pay good money to watch him tear Winks a new one. 

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If it was only until the end of this season then MON, but obviously given time it would definitely be Nige.

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15 hours ago, Livid said:

Always thought Pearson was an arrogant, abrasive, belligerent dick

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