Gary Rowett

[Guest]

While I can't say I'm overjoyed with his apparent replacement, I am very pleased he's not going to be our manager any more. I think he was closer to a lot of people's idea of what a Leicester manager should be like (British, wears tracksuit and trainers to games, reputation as "honest/no-nonsense" and playing direct football) than his predecessors but it's very hard to make the argument he wasn't every bit as shit as them.

[moore_94]

They were both shite

 

The only thing I can really say to defend Rowett is that he came into managing a side that was properly properly shite, confidence ruined, fitness gone etc. whilst Martí had them a lot fresher and still didn't even do that much better

 

Also JJ was carrying an injury through a lot of Rowett's games and Fatawu had completely checked out as well, where as under Martí Fatawu was pretty much a one man match winner for us

 

Would've been interesting to see if we had won that Sheff Wed game under Martí if we didn't still have Bilal who assisted both goals, probably not

[Gamble92]

Seen he follows Rupert Lowe and Farage on Instagram. He was the new Wayne Brown. 

[Muzzy_no7]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

We won 2 out of 14 games with him in charge. 
Not really understanding the logic had he been here at the start of the season that we wouldn’t have been at least in a relegation fight. 

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying. 
 

Rowett did a poor job I know.

 

But Marti did an even worse job IMO

[filbertway]

5 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Yeah makes perfect sense, a bloke that recently had 2 relegations in one season and win percentage under 1.0 

Ooooo bloke that led took over a team that lost their best player and lost 3 in 3 or a nonce that had 1 win in 7 for Rangers.

 

This guy gets to build his own squad to be fair and is in a lower division, so he should nail being better than 1 in 7.

Edited Sunday at 21:56 by filbertway

[MPH]

22 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying. 
 

Rowett did a poor job I know.

 

But Marti did an even worse job IMO

 

Marti left when we were 14th, Rowett took us down…

[Muzzy_no7]

17 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

Marti left when we were 14th, Rowett took us down…

Marti was taking us down, too.

[MPH]

48 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Marti was taking us down, too.

 

you can’t actually prove that. It’s just a guess. We KNOW Rowett took us down. People say well if you take our points deduction away we would have stayed up, but take ours away and we have to takes Brims away too which still puts us down

 

 

Marti averaged 1.34 points per game, Rowett averaged 1. Ironically, if we had stuck with Cifuentes, his points average would have been enough to stay up.

[moore_94]

20 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

you can’t actually prove that. It’s just a guess. We KNOW Rowett took us down. People say well if you take our points deduction away we would have stayed up, but take ours away and we have to takes Brims away too which still puts us down

 

 

Marti averaged 1.34 points per game, Rowett averaged 1. Ironically, if we had stuck with Cifuentes, his points average would have been enough to stay up.

Not sure we would have

 

Marti's average points in the league was 1.31 - over the remaining 17 games that would be 22.27 points

 

We were on 32 points after the Oxford game so lets say 54 points if he carries on his ppg

 

But then you still have to take off the 6 points deduction - leaving us on 48 points and we are still relegated - just 2 more points than we managed under Rowett

 

That also doesn't take into account that our form was getting worse - and also wouldn't include the availability / form of both JJ and Fatawu which made things harder for Rowett than it was for Marti

 

Last 5 PPG - 0.8

 

Last 8 PPG - 0.875

 

Last 10 PPG - 1.1

 

Last 15 PPG - 1.33

 

Over the remaining games I doubt there would have have been much difference between the two - we may have won a couple more games under Marti but we probably draw less / lose more than we did under Rowett

Edited Sunday at 23:36 by moore_94

[MPH]

2 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Not sure we would have

 

Marti's average points in the league was 1.31 - over the remaining 17 games that would be 22.27 points

 

We were on 32 points after the Oxford game so lets say 54 points if he carries on his ppg

 

But then you still have to take off the 6 points deduction - leaving us on 49 points and we are still relegated

 

That also doesn't take into account that our form was getting worse - and also wouldn't include the availability / form of both JJ and Fatawu which made things harder for Rowett than it was for Marti

 

Last 5 PPG - 0.8

 

Last 8 PPG - 0.875

 

Last 10 PPG - 1.1

 

Last 15 PPG - 1.33

 

Over the remaining games I doubt there would have have been much difference between the two

 

We may have won a couple more games under Marti but we probably draw less / lose more than we did under Rowett

 

I actually think if we’d have gone in to the last several games with a different manager we would have picked up even more points..than the average.. as you say, our form was getting worse and I don’t think it would have with Marti… he’s not my hero and I don’t rate him, but I think the proof is there that he’s not as bad a manager as Rowett.

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Ooooo bloke that led took over a team that lost their best player and lost 3 in 3 or a nonce that had 1 win in 7 for Rangers.

 

This guy gets to build his own squad to be fair and is in a lower division, so he should nail being better than 1 in 7.

Don’t know what you’re talking about at the start, 3 in 3?

 

Martin took 8 points from the first 7 league games.

 

”but Rangers should be beating everyone”

 

How many defeats did Rohl finish with in his last 7 games?

 

 

4 with a total of 9 points 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 23:49 by HankMarvin

[moore_94]

7 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I actually think if we’d have gone in to the last several games with a different manager we would have picked up even more points..than the average.. as you say, our form was getting worse and I don’t think it would have with Marti… he’s not my hero and I don’t rate him, but I think the proof is there that he’s not as bad a manager as Rowett.

Our form was getting worse under Marti though, and I think that loss against Oxford in his last game would've just carried it on if he had stayed

 

The club and the players hadn't had the kick in the bollocks of the points deduction yet either and I think that just made everything around the club even worse

 

They are just both shite managers - Rowett did take us down and I see no reason to believe Marti wouldn't have

[filbertway]

26 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Don’t know what you’re talking about at the start, 3 in 3?

 

Martin took 8 points from the first 7 league games.

 

”but Rangers should be beating everyone”

 

How many defeats did Rohl finish with in his last 7 games?

 

 

4 with a total of 9 points 

 

 

Good point to be fair. Rohl is much worse 

 

Why you're quoting "Rangers should beat everyone" sarcastically i dont know

 

 

 

[MPH]

32 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Our form was getting worse under Marti though, and I think that loss against Oxford in his last game would've just carried it on if he had stayed

 

The club and the players hadn't had the kick in the bollocks of the points deduction yet either and I think that just made everything around the club even worse

 

They are just both shite managers - Rowett did take us down and I see no reason to believe Marti wouldn't have

 

but that’s just guesswork.  Cifuentes was certainly not my choice of manager, but the evidence is clear- Rowett was worse for us.

Edited yesterday at 00:26 by MPH

[Lambert09]

What’s disappointing is that we were promised brutal honesty and someone who would get everyone working hard. 
 

He decided everyone deserved a holiday. Let winks do what he wanted. Didn’t get the best out of anyone and simply didn’t care 

[everton carr]

6 hours ago, MPH said:

 

you can’t actually prove that. It’s just a guess. We KNOW Rowett took us down. People say well if you take our points deduction away we would have stayed up, but take ours away and we have to takes Brims away too which still puts us down

 

 

Marti averaged 1.34 points per game, Rowett averaged 1. Ironically, if we had stuck with Cifuentes, his points average would have been enough to stay up.

Not quite ,correct about about WBA, but we would have stayed up instead of Blackburn on goal.difference.Not that I think we would have beaten them if there was anything at stake

[LcFc_Smiv]

The BBC seem to think he departed a few weeks back in the article about Wilshere. Comes to the media he had gone without actually announcing anything?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city

[Foxin_Mad]

It’s very different to take on a team that has its morale destroyed, confidence shot, fitness blown and a basic inability to keep a clean sheet, that was all Cifuentes doing, he was a terrible terrible manager, a lot of the wins came early season before he had further embedded his shit tactics, I have no doubt he takes us down, if he stayed we would not have won another game.

 

Rowett or Cifuentes should never have been manager at this club, but the relegation is the fault of the one who spent the most time with this squad. It’s like comparing a steaming shit with a turd. 

Edited 19 hours ago by Foxin_Mad

[Fox92]

21 hours ago, Craig said:

Well he's definitely been told as he's removed us from his bio  

 

What a disappointment he was. 

Disappointing for me as I thought he would keep us up. I initially took to him more than any of our other managers recently. 

 

He had a couple of difficult away games to start with, plus Norwich at home who were bang in form, but mid March to mid April was horrific (to take only 3 points from QPR, Watford, Preston, Wednesday, Swansea and Portsmouth was criminal). Terrible results, constant player mistakes and of course Daka's penalty miss at Watford.

[HankMarvin]

2 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

It’s very different to take on a team that has its morale destroyed, confidence shot, fitness blown and a basic inability to keep a clean sheet, that was all Cifuentes doing, he was a terrible terrible manager, a lot of the wins came early season before he had further embedded his shit tactics, I have no doubt he takes us down, if he stayed we would not have won another game

If you’re a shit manager it is. 
The difference with Marti is he occasionally won games. 

[Foxin_Mad]

53 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

If you’re a shit manager it is. 
The difference with Marti is he occasionally won games. 

Most of the games won were at the start of the season before his absolute wank tactics and training took further effect, the decline was clear. We had absolutely no tactics at all as a team, nothing. Apart from Derby and Ipswich games we honestly did not deserve to pick up another point, we won by a worldy from Fatawu or James. I watched every tragically disgusting performance, we were never going to turn it around under him actually think if the blithering idiots running the club had sacked him in December when they should, we probably stay up, even if they hadn't dithered after sacking the useless twat we may have. Rowett isn't a manager we should have ever had here, but some of the performances were better, and bar Daka being a useless twat, we probably win a couple more where we kept clean sheets.  

[Foxin_Mad]

11 hours ago, MPH said:

 

I actually think if we’d have gone in to the last several games with a different manager we would have picked up even more points..than the average.. as you say, our form was getting worse and I don’t think it would have with Marti… he’s not my hero and I don’t rate him, but I think the proof is there that he’s not as bad a manager as Rowett.

What proof? He has done **** all ever in his whole history of management? He a useless twat, I cant believe people still stand up for the guy, I cant believe that anyone actually sat down there and watched a game last season and thought yeah hes doing a good job here, because he wasn't. The players were unfit and couldn't defend for shit, the games we won bar 2/3 were the result of a Fatawu or James worldy. What sent us down was probably James being out and Fatawu going off the boil. There is absoluely nothing so suggest that twat keeps us up in any way shape or form given the trend of results, and the performances that were absolutely stinking the place out. I reckon after Oxford if we kept him we would not have won another game at all, probably getting a few 4-0 spankings along the way. 

[SystonFox]

11 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Our form was getting worse under Marti though, and I think that loss against Oxford in his last game would've just carried it on if he had stayed

 

The club and the players hadn't had the kick in the bollocks of the points deduction yet either and I think that just made everything around the club even worse

 

They are just both shite managers - Rowett did take us down and I see no reason to believe Marti wouldn't have

I think this statement is 100% nailed on correct. The points deduction, coming when it did, killed the season dead in it's tracks. Players, fans, interim manager and future manager til end of season knew the writing was on the wall. 

 

Had the pts deduction been made at the start of the season then I think it would have been quite different. Or even at the end of the season when all was said and done and we totalled xx points -6.

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, mind you. And we don't have any of it!

[oldbluefox]

Not sure who we could have appointed with that team. I doubt even Alex Ferguson would have got a tune out of them. The damage was done long before these no-hopers came in. That applies to the whole setup. 

[MPH]

34 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

What proof? He has done **** all ever in his whole history of management? He a useless twat, I cant believe people still stand up for the guy, I cant believe that anyone actually sat down there and watched a game last season and thought yeah hes doing a good job here, because he wasn't. The players were unfit and couldn't defend for shit, the games we won bar 2/3 were the result of a Fatawu or James worldy. What sent us down was probably James being out and Fatawu going off the boil. There is absoluely nothing so suggest that twat keeps us up in any way shape or form given the trend of results, and the performances that were absolutely stinking the place out. I reckon after Oxford if we kept him we would not have won another game at all, probably getting a few 4-0 spankings along the way. 

 

no one said anyone was doing a good job? I think you’ve jumped into the middle of a conversation. I took exception to someone saying that Marti was worse than Rowett or as bad. The evidence suggests other.