Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, BlueBus said:

Such a strange argument as well because his win % is atrocious, it's not like he's some sort of coup and we don't like him because of his tactics. Any manager who has had moderate success in the last 4 years, in any league, would have done me.

Agreed. As above, I am just fed up of supposed style over substance managers. I want to see us hard to beat, putting in the hard yards. I want to see enthusiasm on the pitch. I don’t really give a f*** how many passes around our own half we can get in before we reach the opponents 18 yard box when there are 10 of them behind the ball…..

[Craig]

2 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Because his reputation is in the bin. If he was at all humble or willing to learn he’d adapt his ways.

 

And I know where we are. I have been clear I think promotion this coming season is not realistic and we need to just halt the decline. So I’d have rather get someone of a lesser name who could focus more on substance over style and make us hard to beat.

 

Again, you refer to enjoying the experience. How many Rangers or Southampton fans will not laugh in your face at the suggestion Martin will offer that?

Sorry but anything other than promotion this season is a continuation of the decline.

 

Regardless of the state of the squad currently, promotion from this division is absolutely realistic and definitely a necessity. 

[MrLuke]

As I've said before, I'm still willing to give him a chance. Every manager deserves that. Right now though we're back in Cooper territory: everyone's judged him before he's started.
 

I still feel the frustration with the ownership for this move. I get the anger and resentment at how the club's being run. But FFS, let's at least see how he pans out. The negativity's all-encompassing at the minute and I can't be arsed with it. We will forever be in this negative death spiral otherwise. 
 

I'll give him time. And if it doesn't work out, I'll throw all my vitriol back where it belongs: at the ownership.

But he does have great hair. 

[MrLuke]

7 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Agreed. As above, I am just fed up of supposed style over substance managers. I want to see us hard to beat, putting in the hard yards. I want to see enthusiasm on the pitch. I don’t really give a f*** how many passes around our own half we can get in before we reach the opponents 18 yard box when there are 10 of them behind the ball…..

agree, passion for the badge, willingness to run more than 5 yards before giving up and blaming everyone and everything else would be a start.

[fox_favourite]

1 hour ago, FLAN said:

Did anyone listen to the RL podcast?

 

the journalist Nick Mashiter made reference to a number of interested managers backing off due to a lack of autonomy. Felt like RL took that to be a positive sign of the DOF having control but I heard it the potential managers felt Rudkin was going to continue calling shots  

Sooner Rudkin sods off the smelly fart filled limpet the better. 

[David Hankey]

The fact remains that whoever was appointed wouldn't suit everyone. whether that be after 3 minutes, 3 hours, 3 days, 3 weeks or 3 months!!

[The Leicester Badger]

in an ideal world he wouldn't be my choice, but last season we waited too long for a manager and that was a proper shit show, at least he's got time to sort out the slackers, who's jumping ship and hopefully bring in some young fresh keen blood and some seasoned pros to steady the ship, he's here now, we're up shit creek and there wasn't a huge queue of mangers knocking down the door to take over , we are where we are so lets get behind him.

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, lookwhaticando said:

@Ric Flair More Pearson quotes from 20 June 2008:

 

He said: "I am delighted that I have been given this magnificent opportunity to revitalise the fortunes of this great club after what has been a difficult few years.

"I have an enormous amount of respect for Chairman Milan Mandaric and Chief Executive Lee Hoos, who I worked very closely with at Southampton, and I can promise everyone connected with this club that I will be giving the job my 100 per cent commitment.

"I am privileged to have been given the chance to turn around the fortunes of a club with so much history and such a strong fan base, and I am confident that my style of management can help bring the good times back to Leicester City.

"From speaking to the Chairman, it is evident how much this club means to him and that's why I am determined not to let him or the supporters down.

"There has been far too much disappointment and negativity attached to this club in recent seasons and it is my job to change that.

"The infrastructure is firmly in place; it is now time to start performing consistently on the pitch and that is what I have been brought here to do.

"League One is a tough division to get out of but we will play the necessary football required to gain promotion and in the process give our magnificent fans something to cheer about," he added.

 

 Somewhat hilariously, Mandaric made reference to the number of season tickets sold as part of the announcement: 

 

"We have currently got over 10,000 season ticket holders signed up for the new campaign and that is on a par to where we were this time last year. That's a fantastic achievement.

"As a club we must now instil a winning mentality once again. This club has been going nowhere for four long years, but it's time for that to change. There has been too much negativity around this place and that's something that we must eradicate.

"As a unit we can now move forward. We must all now get behind Nigel and his players make this fantastic club great once again."

 

As for the reaction here on FT, the first Pearson OUT post appears to be 23 June 2008. 

Fantastic quotes from a salt of the earth bit the spooky similarities in the Southampton link and the season ticket sales lauded as a big ticket item 😂😂😂

[moore_94]

35 minutes ago, Craig said:

Sorry but anything other than promotion this season is a continuation of the decline.

 

Regardless of the state of the squad currently, promotion from this division is absolutely realistic and definitely a necessity. 

We need to absolutely piss the league for it to not be our worst ever league finish and season in our history

 

97 points required as a minimum

 

King Power, Top, and Rudkin deserve to have it against them even if we somehow go up as Champions on less points

[Dames]

55 minutes ago, Craig said:

Sorry but anything other than promotion this season is a continuation of the decline.

 

Regardless of the state of the squad currently, promotion from this division is absolutely realistic and definitely a necessity. 

I’m going to absolutely hate being on here if we are romping the league and people are lauding Vestergaard as a world beater again and are being positive about the owners. 

[hackneyfox]

59 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Because his reputation is in the bin. If he was at all humble or willing to learn he’d adapt his ways.

 

And I know where we are. I have been clear I think promotion this coming season is not realistic and we need to just halt the decline. So I’d have rather get someone of a lesser name who could focus more on substance over style and make us hard to beat.

 

Again, you refer to enjoying the experience. How many Rangers or Southampton fans will not laugh in your face at the suggestion Martin will offer that?

I'm not happy he's our new manager but as always I'll try and take a positive approach.
If you keep finding fault in everything the club do (easy I know) then you're going to have a very miserable time following your team.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he's learnt and is willing to try a new approach.

 

I don't expect you and many others to change your attitude and you'll continue to post the same negative POVs over and over again.

[hackneyfox]

2 minutes ago, Dames said:

I’m going to absolutely hate being on here if we are romping the league and people are lauding Vestergaard as a world beater again and are being positive about the owners. 

If it was too happen why wouldn't you just enjoy the experience?

I'm hoping that those who actually go will be a lot more positive and get behind the team. At least until it's proven that he hasn't changed his ways and we're giving away stupid goals all the time.

[cityfanlee23]

3 hours ago, AyewJoking said:

what is forcing you?

 

I'm all for disunity when you're mid table and need change, but we are at a "do or die" point of the clubs history, either we get promoted, or we potential fall off the cliff edge, 2 seasons in league 1 could kill us off. We have to go up. I think getting behind Martin fully despite the fact I absolutely despise the football is what we need to have a chance of going up. I don't want to be united behind him, but I think we have to be frustratingly. 

[Dames]

8 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

If it was too happen why wouldn't you just enjoy the experience?

I'm hoping that those who actually go will be a lot more positive and get behind the team. At least until it's proven that he hasn't changed his ways and we're giving away stupid goals all the time.

Because we shouldnt be where we are and certain sections of the fanbase use winning games as an excuse to silence any criticism of the ownership. 

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, Craig said:

Sorry but anything other than promotion this season is a continuation of the decline.

 

Regardless of the state of the squad currently, promotion from this division is absolutely realistic and definitely a necessity. 

So was it the is season gone to be fair. The mentality and culture around the club matter more than supposed superiority at this point.

 

If we can suddenly turn it on and rattle off 30 wins this season after the last 2, great. But it seems unlikely to me.

[LCFCJohn]

21 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

I'm not happy he's our new manager but as always I'll try and take a positive approach.
If you keep finding fault in everything the club do (easy I know) then you're going to have a very miserable time following your team.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he's learnt and is willing to try a new approach.

 

I don't expect you and many others to change your attitude and you'll continue to post the same negative POVs over and over again.

It’s a forum for people to express their views. If you don’t like those views skip past them.

 

What have we had to be positive about for the last few years?

 

I admire your optimism but he didn’t change anything at Rangers following that interview after his Southampton spell. I’d love if he did. Apparently he has some of the strengths I do want to see regarding promoting youngsters. But the rigid approach to the philosophy is constantly his undoing. 

[hackneyfox]

13 minutes ago, Dames said:

Because we shouldnt be where we are and certain sections of the fanbase use winning games as an excuse to silence any criticism of the ownership. 

We are where we are, are you going to spend the next season moaning constantly about it?

Certain sections of the fanbase will criticise the ownership whatever happens.

[hackneyfox]

6 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

It’s a forum for people to express their views. If you don’t like those views skip past them.

 

What have we had to be positive about for the last few years?

 

I admire your optimism but he didn’t change anything at Rangers following that interview after his Southampton spell. I’d love if he did. Apparently he has some of the strengths I do want to see regarding promoting youngsters. But the rigid approach to the philosophy is constantly his undoing. 

If you skipped past the neghative views about the ownership and Martin then there wouldn't be anything to read on here, just the same posts again and again.

Those who attempted to be even slightly positive have been called out as KPFC fans, seems a few of them are no longer posting as regularly.

They're probably taking the right approach, there's not much worth reading on here until we sign players.

[jayfox26]

39 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

I'm not happy he's our new manager but as always I'll try and take a positive approach.
If you keep finding fault in everything the club do (easy I know) then you're going to have a very miserable time following your team.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he's learnt and is willing to try a new approach.

 

I don't expect you and many others to change your attitude and you'll continue to post the same negative POVs over and over again.

But with good reason. There is absolutely nothing to be positive about until Top and Rudkin feck off

[hackneyfox]

Just now, jayfox26 said:

But with good reason. There is absolutely nothing to be positive about until Top and Rudkin feck off

Well if getting promoted means they don't leave then hopefully you've got a very long period of being miserable.

Should we be winning games and be top next season don't expect the majority of fans at games to join in with booing.

 

[LCFCJohn]

7 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

If you skipped past the neghative views about the ownership and Martin then there wouldn't be anything to read on here, just the same posts again and again.

Those who attempted to be even slightly positive have been called out as KPFC fans, seems a few of them are no longer posting as regularly.

They're probably taking the right approach, there's not much worth reading on here until we sign players.

As I say, it’s an outlet. 
 

Most people (myself included) won’t jump on anyone for posting anything remotely positive. There are a small number of posters who defend anything the club does and that gets people’s backs up. To the contrary, these people pile on anyone who says anything negative.

 

If, as a fanbase, we’d been allowed to question and criticise without the abuse, we’d more likely be in a position where both view points are accepted. It has and does work both ways.

 

Its just the case now that the club have set a standard whereby they have messed up unless proven otherwise. 
 

On Martin, if he comes in and puts youth at the centre, puts the excessive possession for the sake of it to bed and smashes the league people will (hopefully) hold their hands up and say fair play (yes I know many won’t out of stubbornness).

[DJW1]

If his team is going to play out from the back, then I see no place in it for the likes of Hamza and Thomas. I imagine that Martin has come because he has been promised money to bring in some players that can play his style of football. He ain´t going to try to patch together a team from youngsters and free transfers.

If he has modified his style then those two might continue to be the full backs, with strict instructions to just defend, get the ball and (as Brian Clough told Roy Keane) give it to someone with more talent  (and in the same colour shirt )

[The Doctor]

8 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

As I say, it’s an outlet. 
 

Most people (myself included) won’t jump on anyone for posting anything remotely positive. There are a small number of posters who defend anything the club does and that gets people’s backs up. To the contrary, these people pile on anyone who says anything negative.

 

If, as a fanbase, we’d been allowed to question and criticise without the abuse, we’d more likely be in a position where both view points are accepted. It has and does work both ways.

 

Its just the case now that the club have set a standard whereby they have messed up unless proven otherwise. 
 

On Martin, if he comes in and puts youth at the centre, puts the excessive possession for the sake of it to bed and smashes the league people will (hopefully) hold their hands up and say fair play (yes I know many won’t out of stubbornness).

fundamentally though to do this he would have to do a complete 180 on his style of play up to this point in his managerial career, you can see why people don't have any confidence that will happen - while he's still young, he's several jobs in, this is who he is and what he believes in. Peoples cynicism is because we're in a historically bad spiral, and it doesn't seem like the board have learnt a single lesson in this time

[LCFCJohn]

2 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

fundamentally though to do this he would have to do a complete 180 on his style of play up to this point in his managerial career, you can see why people don't have any confidence that will happen - while he's still young, he's several jobs in, this is who he is and what he believes in. Peoples cynicism is because we're in a historically bad spiral, and it doesn't seem like the board have learnt a single lesson in this time

I agree, I was just giving a balanced reply to Hackney. I think if he had shown signs of change at Rangers then maybe but it sounds like he doubled down. And it feels he has full support of the club itself to play as he has been known for. It’ll likely undo any positives he might bring with youth development for example. 
 

We bloody need it to work. This decline is so deep now we need something to just click and fall into place even if it is by luck more than judgement….

[Greg2607]

8 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

We go round and round in circles on this. Dave Challinor has just left Stockport and has a flawless record of getting his teams into the play-off places at least every season. He would almost certainly have been obtainable as well. 

Dave challinor has also said he wants a break from football. 

 

As I said "someone who is available"....