Leicestershire County Cricket Club

[Walshy5]

Not good enough at this level. Infact I actually think we're weaker than last year. Handscombe is a massive miss for his leadership skills alone and Ahmed will hardly be available. Holland simply isn't good enough, never mind batting at 3/4 and being captain. Ajaz Patel is a complete waste of an overseas spot and Davey has been a terrible signing.

[dmayne7]

Only team in the country without a win now

[SemperEadem]

7 minutes ago, Walshy5 said:

Not good enough at this level. Infact I actually think we're weaker than last year. Handscombe is a massive miss for his leadership skills alone and Ahmed will hardly be available. Holland simply isn't good enough, never mind batting at 3/4 and being captain. Ajaz Patel is a complete waste of an overseas spot and Davey has been a terrible signing.

Davey played once and then took a freak injury, harsh to say terrible signing on that front.

[Sunbury Fox]

To be anywhere near competitive at this level, we need to sort out numbers 3 and 4 in the batting line up and get a good quality strike bowler.

[PhillippaT]

I haven't even thought about Leicestershire Cricket at all so far, until I saw this thread...  And then saw dmayne7's reply.  Ruh Roh.  And now everyone will be blaming me  

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Really poor losing to Sussex twice. No wins and it’s going to be a real struggle to stay up particularly with our overseas player selection.

We have taken so many years to get back into the top division I think we’ve really squandered a good opportunity through poor decisions by the management.

 

[LBTufty]

On last night's Talking Foxes update, Alfonso said that Davey had a scan yesterday on a suspected hip flexor injury. Davey says he's feeling fine and if the scan's all clear i.e. just tightness, will have a light bowl; he may be back sooner than we think. Scriven is a doubt for Essex, he picked up a bruised rib in the previous Notts game and then aggravated it bowling in the first innings. No mention of Alex Green's availability.

 

Middlesex will come back on a request from us to extend Helm's loan, who's very happy to be here apparently.

 

 

[everton carr]

9 minutes ago, LBTufty said:

On last night's Talking Foxes update, Alfonso said that Davey had a scan yesterday on a suspected hip flexor injury. Davey says he's feeling fine and if the scan's all clear i.e. just tightness, will have a light bowl; he may be back sooner than we think. Scriven is a doubt for Essex, he picked up a bruised rib in the previous Notts game and then aggravated it bowling in the first innings. No mention of Alex Green's availability.

 

Middlesex will come back on a request from us to extend Helm's loan, who's very happy to be here apparently.

 

 

Isn't Ben Mike fit?Not that i think he's good enough

[LBTufty]

The Ben Mike conversation probably didn't make the final TF edit; I imagine it may have gone along the lines of -

 

Rae: "If Tom fails his fitness test, is there a chance Ben Mike will come in for him"

Thomas: "Are you ******* joking, we've already seen Hully clattered around, imagine what the Essex batting line-up will do to Mike's assorted half-track pies and full-tosses!!"

[CrawlingFox]

So far I think we can be reasonably happy with our batting, it's not all gone swimmingly but Weatherald, Eskinazi and Tattersall I would all say look to have strengthened us for the step up and Patel and Cox seem to be thriving.

 

That of course is only 5 players with a pretty big hole at 3 currently. Of note is that Ahmed did a superb and unorthodox job for us there last season and it's frustrating to be missing him. Budinger not at the same level.

 

I don't know what NZ's schedule looks like but can't help but feel asking Nick Kelly if he can play some red ball stuff (he has a good record) during and after his t20 stint might shore up the top order a bit given A.Patel isn't proving effective with the ball.

 

Ideally we'd look for an overseas quick, it's obvious we badly need one.

 

Bowling wise Green has looked a very solid contributor, bowls a lot of overs, doesn't go for many and taking wickets. Beyond that though it was clear that Helm looked a step up on the rest of the attack.

 

Helm for longer would be great but Thomas needs to plug the other holes quickly:

 

Patel

Weatherald

- 

Eskinazi

Tattersall

-

Cox (wk)

Green

-

Helm

-

 

If Holland is captain then he could go in at 8 or pushing it at 6, clear he's not a top order batting at this level though. Worryingly unless conditions and pitches change he's not taking many wickets either.

[everton carr]

4 minutes ago, CrawlingFox said:

So far I think we can be reasonably happy with our batting, it's not all gone swimmingly but Weatherald, Eskinazi and Tattersall I would all say look to have strengthened us for the step up and Patel and Cox seem to be thriving.

 

That of course is only 5 players with a pretty big hole at 3 currently. Of note is that Ahmed did a superb and unorthodox job for us there last season and it's frustrating to be missing him. Budinger not at the same level.

 

I don't know what NZ's schedule looks like but can't help but feel asking Nick Kelly if he can play some red ball stuff (he has a good record) during and after his t20 stint might shore up the top order a bit given A.Patel isn't proving effective with the ball.

 

Ideally we'd look for an overseas quick, it's obvious we badly need one.

 

Bowling wise Green has looked a very solid contributor, bowls a lot of overs, doesn't go for many and taking wickets. Beyond that though it was clear that Helm looked a step up on the rest of the attack.

 

Helm for longer would be great but Thomas needs to plug the other holes quickly:

 

Patel

Weatherald

- 

Eskinazi

Tattersall

-

Cox (wk)

Green

-

Helm

-

 

If Holland is captain then he could go in at 8 or pushing it at 6, clear he's not a top order batting at this level though. Worryingly unless conditions and pitches change he's not taking many wickets either.

Weatherald finishes after the Essex match.Think Kelly signed to play all formats .

[LBTufty]

2 minutes ago, everton carr said:

Weatherald finishes after the Essex match.Think Kelly signed to play all formats .

Yep

[everton carr]

Such good news that Ajax Patel not included in the NZ squad for the tour of England.

Was worried we might lose him for a few matches.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

58 minutes ago, CrawlingFox said:

So far I think we can be reasonably happy with our batting, it's not all gone swimmingly but Weatherald, Eskinazi and Tattersall I would all say look to have strengthened us for the step up and Patel and Cox seem to be thriving.

 

That of course is only 5 players with a pretty big hole at 3 currently. Of note is that Ahmed did a superb and unorthodox job for us there last season and it's frustrating to be missing him. Budinger not at the same level.

 

I don't know what NZ's schedule looks like but can't help but feel asking Nick Kelly if he can play some red ball stuff (he has a good record) during and after his t20 stint might shore up the top order a bit given A.Patel isn't proving effective with the ball.

 

Ideally we'd look for an overseas quick, it's obvious we badly need one.

 

Bowling wise Green has looked a very solid contributor, bowls a lot of overs, doesn't go for many and taking wickets. Beyond that though it was clear that Helm looked a step up on the rest of the attack.

 

Helm for longer would be great but Thomas needs to plug the other holes quickly:

 

Patel

Weatherald

- 

Eskinazi

Tattersall

-

Cox (wk)

Green

-

Helm

-

 

If Holland is captain then he could go in at 8 or pushing it at 6, clear he's not a top order batting at this level though. Worryingly unless conditions and pitches change he's not taking many wickets either.

I’d assumed Patel had signed for the season, if so then we can’t just get rid.

As for Hull and Mike I’d expect by now that the influence of Thomas would have paid dividends and they would have tightened up their bowling by now. 

[CoventryFox]

3 hours ago, CrawlingFox said:

So far I think we can be reasonably happy with our batting, it's not all gone swimmingly but Weatherald, Eskinazi and Tattersall I would all say look to have strengthened us for the step up and Patel and Cox seem to be thriving.

 

That of course is only 5 players with a pretty big hole at 3 currently. Of note is that Ahmed did a superb and unorthodox job for us there last season and it's frustrating to be missing him. Budinger not at the same level.

 

I don't know what NZ's schedule looks like but can't help but feel asking Nick Kelly if he can play some red ball stuff (he has a good record) during and after his t20 stint might shore up the top order a bit given A.Patel isn't proving effective with the ball.

 

Ideally we'd look for an overseas quick, it's obvious we badly need one.

 

Bowling wise Green has looked a very solid contributor, bowls a lot of overs, doesn't go for many and taking wickets. Beyond that though it was clear that Helm looked a step up on the rest of the attack.

 

Helm for longer would be great but Thomas needs to plug the other holes quickly:

 

Patel

Weatherald

- 

Eskinazi

Tattersall

-

Cox (wk)

Green

-

Helm

-

 

If Holland is captain then he could go in at 8 or pushing it at 6, clear he's not a top order batting at this level though. Worryingly unless conditions and pitches change he's not taking many wickets either.

All spot on observations 👍

[CoventryFox]

Will Rehan be available for the whole of the T20 Blast? 

[RowlattsFox]

12 minutes ago, CoventryFox said:

Will Rehan be available for the whole of the T20 Blast? 

Will probably end up travelling around being 12th man for the England test series 

[blurryface]

2nds currently on youtube and at home again tomorrow (11am) apparently - 

 

[LBTufty]

13 minutes ago, CoventryFox said:

Will Rehan be available for the whole of the T20 Blast? 

Delhi Capitals play their last game on 24 May with the IPL knock-out stuff running 26-31 May. They *could* be eliminated before then in which case, they *might* release him early.

 

Even if they do, there's a couple of sommelier jobs in London he might fancy instead

[Walshy5]

Random question, is Holland available for T20 this year does anyone know or is he in a franchise again like last year?

[Lionator]

16 hours ago, CoventryFox said:

Will Rehan be available for the whole of the T20 Blast? 

Considering the telegraph have been reporting he’s going to be playing for England v Black Caps batting at 8 then no. 

[everton carr]

6 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Considering the telegraph have been reporting he’s going to be playing for England v Black Caps batting at 8 then no. 

Think Harrison at Northants deserves a go ahead of Rehan

[RowlattsFox]

I'd be surprised if England didn't pick Jacks at 8. Although I couldn't tell what he's currently doing. 

Would be very England to pick Rehan when he's done nothing though. 

[Lionator]

14 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I'd be surprised if England didn't pick Jacks at 8. Although I couldn't tell what he's currently doing. 

Would be very England to pick Rehan when he's done nothing though. 

There’s no other outstanding spinners, he fits the system well and has a good mentality. He’s a quality bat too, i think he’d be great. Jacks focus solely on white ball cricket.

[MaidstoneFox]

23 hours ago, CrawlingFox said:

So far I think we can be reasonably happy with our batting, it's not all gone swimmingly but Weatherald, Eskinazi and Tattersall I would all say look to have strengthened us for the step up and Patel and Cox seem to be thriving.

 

That of course is only 5 players with a pretty big hole at 3 currently. Of note is that Ahmed did a superb and unorthodox job for us there last season and it's frustrating to be missing him. Budinger not at the same level.

 

I don't know what NZ's schedule looks like but can't help but feel asking Nick Kelly if he can play some red ball stuff (he has a good record) during and after his t20 stint might shore up the top order a bit given A.Patel isn't proving effective with the ball.

 

Ideally we'd look for an overseas quick, it's obvious we badly need one.

 

Bowling wise Green has looked a very solid contributor, bowls a lot of overs, doesn't go for many and taking wickets. Beyond that though it was clear that Helm looked a step up on the rest of the attack.

 

Helm for longer would be great but Thomas needs to plug the other holes quickly:

 

Patel

Weatherald

- 

Eskinazi

Tattersall

-

Cox (wk)

Green

-

Helm

-

 

If Holland is captain then he could go in at 8 or pushing it at 6, clear he's not a top order batting at this level though. Worryingly unless conditions and pitches change he's not taking many wickets either.

Holland being asked to do too much in captaining, batting 3 and opening the bowling (who else does that in 1st class cricket?). He's been a bit unlucky and could have had more wickets, but i think the slightly higher quality of batters in div 1 means they have more time to react and he's just lacks that yard, even if he is economical. I think he's batting at 3 because nobody else wants to while Rehan is absent. He's very much doing everything because the team needs it.

 

Rehan is a big miss, both for his destructive innings and his ability to clean up tails with his leg-spin. But we better get used to it, not sure how much he'll play at all this season. Nick Kelly may be able to bat 3, in the Championship, later in the season.

 

Davey, I don't think has been fit or bowling fit yet, he needs a couple of games to get into his groove.

 

Patel may be better in the September red ball games, when the pitches will be drier and more worn. But I also suspect he is just past his best and was essentially all we could get as a late replacement.

 

Should be remembered that things couldn't have gone much worse for us in terms of personnel - both overseas withdrawing at the last minute/Rehan called up to IPL/4 bowlers getting injured at the same time - in that context we are hanging on in there and we aren't bottom. Hampshire/Yorkshire don't look great and will probably both lose a players or two each to England call-ups.