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Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

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Rincewind

Rincewind

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I watched a programme  on Tuesday about disabled people in Ghana. In one part they spoke to a Spirit Priest who admitted killing  disabled children by performing a ritual then leaving them by a river bank after administering poison. This is  normally done with the parents approval who see disability as evil and they are returning the child.

I thought that could not happen in a civilised country until I saw this earlier on Twitter. This is in the  USA.

 

I cannot post the image.

 

It was something like this, someone asked this person if he would kill babies and women if commanded by god and he replied absolutely if it was a direct order from god as he is the only one who can kill morally.

 

And I though I hope someone stops him or we could have another mass killing.

The TV programme upset me at the time and to see this. Words fail me. What is wrong with the world?

Merging Cultures

Merging Cultures

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I watched a programme on Tuesday about disabled people in Ghana. In one part they spoke to a Spirit Priest who admitted killing disabled children by performing a ritual then leaving them by a river bank after administering poison. This is normally done with the parents approval who see disability as evil and they are returning the child.

I thought that could not happen in a civilised country until I saw this earlier on Twitter. This is in the USA.

I cannot post the image.

It was something like this, someone asked this person if he would kill babies and women if commanded by god and he replied absolutely if it was a direct order from god as he is the only one who can kill morally.

And I though I hope someone stops him or we could have another mass killing.

The TV programme upset me at the time and to see this. Words fail me. What is wrong with the world?

Happens all the time unfortunately:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784726/Ritual-child-abuse-linked-witchcraft-rise-UK-Drownings-rape-hidden-crimes-drive-devil.html

The abuse can and has led to the death of children.

I must admit, a lot of the practice in the UK has come from Africa. In Tanzania, I worked with disabled kids, sometimes the organisation had to unchain them from trees, free them from locked windowless rooms. Shocking. I'm sure it happens all over the place, but my experience of it has been mostly Africa based.

MC Prussian

MC Prussian

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The tragic case of Sheena Bora:

 

 

Indrani Mukerjea: India gripped by the case of the TV mogul accused of her daughter's murder

The story has gripped India for weeks. Each new development prompts a surge of headlines. Every quote tops the TV bulletins. Even in a country which loves a good true crime story, the case is a sensational exception.

The facts appear straightforward. Indrani Mukerjea, India’s first female TV mogul, has been charged with the murder of her 25-year-old daughter, Sheena Bora, whose remains were found on wasteland three years ago but only identified recently. Police have said her two alleged accomplices have confessed, though there is no independent confirmation of this. From prison, Mukerjea maintains her innocence.

Yet the case is about much more than a simple murder investigation. Mukerjea’s rags-to-riches-to-remand story is being seen as a moral fable, underlining deep concerns about materialism, the media and motherhood in the emerging economic power.

“Here is a story about change, and those who embrace it for all the wrong reasons,” wrote commentator Dilip Bobb in Outlook magazine. “It is a story about the rich and how money and craving for high social status can distort values … [Mukerjea] is the female equivalent of Jay Gatsby, the mysterious millionaire of Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby, which explored themes of decadence, social upheaval and excess.”

 

There has been some criticism of the intense media coverage. Television debates have seen virulent attacks on Mukerjea’s alleged betrayal of her role as a mother.

But soaring ratings have trumped most reservations. “It is a tabloid gold mine,” said Rajesh Sundaram, an Indian media consultant who once worked for Mukerjea.

The tycoon grew up far from the booming cities of Delhi, India’s capital, and Mumbai, its commercial powerhouse. She was born to a middle-class family in the north-east state of Assam but, like many, sought escape from the provinces. Local media has portrayed her as “a ruthless social climber”, recounting unconfirmed anecdotes of pushy materialism. A few describe a vivacious, ambitious, sharp-witted entrepreneur who launched a successful human resources company in what is still a patriarchal and conservative country, and in 2008 was named one of 50 “Women to Watch” by the Wall Street Journal.

It is Mukerjea’s personal life that has attracted most attention, and condemnation. Two of her children – Sheena and a son – came from a first relationship in her twenties. Later Mukerjea married a “member of [the] swish set” in Kolkata and gained access to the eastern city’s “upper crust”, according to local reports. By 2002, however, that relationship had broken up and she met and then married her current husband, 59-year-old Peter Mukerjea, a well-known and respected Mumbai-based media tycoon. In 2006 the couple set up a TV network.

The Mukerjeas lived in one of Mumbai’s most exclusive areas and were a fixture of the city’s glitzy social scene. As business affairs soured the couple spent more time overseas, particularly in the UK. In 2011, Bora, by then an adult, got a job in another of India’s proliferating media companies in Mumbai.

Every facet of Bora’s personal life has been pored over in recent weeks, with newspapers publishing her diaries and reporters climbing over the walls of her childhood home to interview relatives.

Chandita Sahariah, a school friend in the city of Guwahati, described the dead woman as a “beautiful and bright student”.

“Her personal problems didn’t reflect in her personality, she used to carry her mum’s passport photo all the time. She loved her mum,” Sahariah, 27, said.

In 2012, Bora, who may have been in a relationship with the son of her mother’s second husband, disappeared. An investigation was launched this summer after police in Mumbai received a tip-off and Indrani Mukerjea’s chauffeur reportedly claimed he had been paid 100,000 rupees (£1,000) to help in the murder of the young woman.

Police have been unable to establish any motive for the killing and Indrani Mukerjea maintains her daughter went to the US to study, as the children of many wealthy Indians do, and disappeared there. There is no suggestion that Peter Mukerjea was involved in or aware of any wrongdoing at any stage.

 

One possible explanation for India’s fascination with stories of salacious crimes involving the rich and the famous is that they reassure those disorientated or disadvantaged by rapid economic and cultural change. All involve individuals who, though they appear to be among the winners in contemporary India, are losers in the long run.

 

Last week one newspaper described a murder case involving the flamboyant scion of one of India’s biggest financial companies as a reminder of “how fast all the glitter can fade in a capricious manner at weird spots of destiny”.

The attention focused on the Mukerjea investigations recalls the frenzy prompted by the jailing of two dentists for the murder of their 14-year-old daughter, Aarushi, and a male housekeeper in 2008. They maintain their innocence, and were backed by large numbers of independent experts and commentators.

Avirook Sen, author of an acclaimed book on the case, said it shared common ingredients with the Mukerjea affair.

“The murder of Aarushi occurred in a suburb that was a kind of middle-class idyll or dream. That kind of thing was not supposed to happen there. And though [the victim] was just into puberty she was young and pretty.”

The case also featured accusations of poor police work and prejudicial reporting. Unsubstantiated details of the teenager’s sexual activity, and the father’s supposed jealousy, were supposedly leaked by police to journalists during the investigation.

Sundaram, the media consultant, pointed out that such subject matter attracted attention all over the world.

“Yes, there is something in the [Mukerjea] story which is about the new India but it is also universal.”

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/09/india-gripped-by-case-of-female-tv-mogul-indrani-mukerjea-accused-of-daughters-murder

Edited by MC Prussian
Carl the Llama

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I watched a programme  on Tuesday about disabled people in Ghana. In one part they spoke to a Spirit Priest who admitted killing  disabled children by performing a ritual then leaving them by a river bank after administering poison. This is  normally done with the parents approval who see disability as evil and they are returning the child.

I thought that could not happen in a civilised country until I saw this earlier on Twitter. This is in the  USA.

 

I cannot post the image.

 

It was something like this, someone asked this person if he would kill babies and women if commanded by god and he replied absolutely if it was a direct order from god as he is the only one who can kill morally.

 

And I though I hope someone stops him or we could have another mass killing.

The TV programme upset me at the time and to see this. Words fail me. What is wrong with the world?

I think that's something they actually teach in the Bible, can't remember who but God asks one of the main characters to sacrifice his son (Moses? Abraham? Dunno).  He stops the bloke just before he actually does it because "I just wanted to test your faith", but yeah, that's a very Christian pov.

Rincewind

Rincewind

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Even thinking about it is crazy. Would a loving god ask someone to do such a thing? Only a god with a big ego would and that is not the kind of god I would follow blindly.

davieG

davieG

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The trad title is not strong enough to describe these.

 

 

Paedophile ring jailed for 'terrifying depravity'
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_82488510_abuse_montage_5.jpgImage copyrightNational Crime AgencyImage captionClockwise from top left: John Denham, Matthew Stansfield, Adam Toms, Matthew Lisk, Robin Hollyson, Christopher Knight and David Harsley

Seven paedophiles who preyed on a baby and young children acted "beyond human instinct" and were guilty of "terrifying depravity", a judge said.

Jailing them, Judge Julian Lambert said the men had engaged in "the most grossly deviant behaviour imaginable".

He said what they had done made some feel "physically sick".

The prison sentences issued to the gang members, who streamed some attacks on the internet, range from two years to 24 years.

The court was told the men would drive hundreds of miles for a chance to rape or abuse a child.

In the worst nightmare, from the very deepest recesses of the mind, at the darkest hour of the night, few can have imagined the terrifying depravity which you men admit Judge Julian Lambert

The group, who lived at addresses across England, raped and assaulted three children - a baby, a toddler and a young child - between 2013 and 2014.

Bristol Crown Court heard the men groomed families to get to children, in one case targeting a pregnant woman in order to abuse her baby after its birth.

They would stream and watch attacks live online, providing encouragement to those carrying out abuse. They also shared advice over online chat logs about how to drug young victims.

The judge said: "In the worst nightmare, from the very deepest recesses of the mind, at the darkest hour of the night, few can have imagined the terrifying depravity which you men admit."

He said the depths they sank to were "shocking to all decent people", "provokes tears in many and makes others feel physically sick".

Media captionAndy Quinn, from the National Crime Agency, said the crimes were horrific

"What you did is contrary to all nature and humanity and you each appear to have a chilling tendency to centre the world on yourselves and your depraved desires without regard for the innocent and vulnerable."

John Brown, from the the NSPCC, said the gravity of the offending is "difficult to comprehend" and the children involved may be affected in later life.

He said: "It may be that they don't have a recollection of what's happened, but trauma can manifest itself in later years so I think that's really important to watch out for.

"Those babies and those children are going to need to be monitored and they need to have on-going longer-term support, and their families as well."

The inquiry began in September 2014 when defendant Adam Toms dialled 999 and was heard crying down the line.

He was arrested after officers were sent to his home following concerns for his welfare and he admitted sexually abusing a child under the age of five.

This triggered the uncovering of an organised crime group, and the resulting inquiry was led by the National Crime Agency (NCA).

  • Robin Hollyson, 31, from Bedfordshire, was sentenced to 24 years in prison and a further eight years on licence. He was filmed abusing the baby.
  • Christopher Knight, 35, from Manchester, was jailed for 18 years, with an extension of six years on licence
  • Matthew Stansfield, 35, from Hampshire was jailed for 14 years
  • Adam Toms, 33, from Somerset, received a 12-year sentence, and four years on licence
  • John Denham, 50, from Wiltshire - previously known as Benjamin Harrop - was jailed for eight years plus four years on licence
  • Matthew Lisk, 32, from East Sussex, was jailed for four years, plus an extension of three years on licence
  • David Harsley, 51, from East Yorkshire, was jailed for two years

All were placed on the sex offenders register for life, except for Harsley. The judge has yet to determine how long he will be on the register for.

Media captionMatthew Stansfield refused to comment to police when arrested

Ian Glover, who headed up the National Crime Agency investigation, described them as "by far the worst paedophile group I have ever investigated".

He said they had treated children "as a commodity, to be passed on to others, to be filmed, to be abused and that abuse shown to other paedophiles as a form of currency, so they can get other material back".

Mr Glover said the most important factor had been protecting the children involved, both in this court case and the wider operation, and as a result more than 200 "packages" - intelligence gathered during the inquiry - had been sent to other forces, mostly overseas. Further convictions are expected in the UK and abroad, he said.

The investigation identified three victims but police have put measures in place to protect another 21 children found to be at risk.

Det Ch Insp Simon Crisp, from Avon and Somerset Constabulary, said: "The extremity of the offending in this case is horrifying, but child abuse of this nature is rare."

Sir Fynwy

Sir Fynwy

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Murdoch pushing for a new war so that he can get oil revenues from Syria, I hope Putin puts a cap in this ****er asap.

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Bellend Sebastian

Bellend Sebastian

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/27/shoreditch-cereal-cafe-targeted-by-anti-gentrification-protesters

These tossers seem to be appearing more and more now, how does anyone see it as acceptable to protest in this way?

Ironically the tax from these businesses is probably paying their benefits.

 

 

Judging by the comments, readers aren't convinced by the motivations either:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/28/cereal-killer-cafe-protest-gentrification-poverty

Jordan

Jordan

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I'm sure there was a way for locals to inform the owners of a cereal café that they're such hipster douchebags for opening a cereal café that didn't involve getting a mob of punks and skins together to ransack the place.

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