MPH Posted 1 February 2010 Posted 1 February 2010 Can't ever recall watching the bloke but if he cannot cement a place in the Ipswich team ahead of McAuley I'm not filled with anticipation. At 25, he should be making his presences felt in the game. Besides for me our priority is a striker who can score regularly. DJ is probably the second most natural scorer we have after Fryatt and he's not an option cos he's off to Blackpool. N'Guessan is arguably next in line and the rest either flatter to deceive or, in Howard's case, no longer quite seems to have the sharpness necessary despite sometimes valuable contriibutions. Weale was injured fr long periods of time and could not get into the Brizzle team... but look at him now.. regular footy and he is turning into a quality player.. I see it as something very similar with Bruce... Out injured alot... not able to get match sharp... but give him a decent run and he could really thrive. I do agree that we need another striker tho'...
midfield Posted 1 February 2010 Posted 1 February 2010 fooking excellent signing brilliant player thats why ipswich got rid of him in all serious ness if he can play at left back or right back should be better than what we got
Salieri Posted 1 February 2010 Posted 1 February 2010 fooking excellent signing brilliant player thats why ipswich got rid of himin all serious ness if he can play at left back or right back should be better than what we got What a pointless post. First part an attempt at sarcasm, second part displaying the fact you know nothing about the guy. He will provide cover for the defence, he's only on loan so it can only be a good thing. And just to clarify, he's a centre back who can do a job at right back. Muppet central on here tonight.
Chrysalis Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 remember mark davies? injury prone player but when on loan with us he turned out great. give this guy a chance it is a gamble with his fitness but if he stays fit I expect he will prove golden, my concern is **** keane recalling him if he hits good form.
wirralsimon Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 I saw Tranmere several times when they had Alex Bruce on loan when they were in league one with Brian Little. He struggled to get onthe pitch at all to be honest (even from the bench) as he couldn't force is way onto the team, which doesn't fill me with confidence! I presume he has been signed for cover. Simon
Babylon Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 I've felt we were a defender short all season to be honest, and since seeing Neilson and the Mcgivern play i've thought we were 3 defenders short. So another body is welcome.
dandannieldanok Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 I've felt we were a defender short all season to be honest, and since seeing Neilson and the Mcgivern play i've thought we were 3 defenders short. So another body is welcome. Harsh but 100% true.
davieG Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Back (Hoof) four for Blackpool Neilson Bruce Brown McGivern
Simo86 Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Back (Hoof) four for BlackpoolNeilson Bruce Brown McGivern Oh god please NO!!!
Babylon Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Back (Hoof) four for BlackpoolNeilson Bruce Brown McGivern Wash your mouth out.
MC Prussian Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Back (Hoof) four for BlackpoolNeilson Bruce Brown McGivern With Waghorn in goal and Berner to replace Fryatt up front.
Sparky Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Absolutely not true.There is a big difference and this is the main reason Morrison and Hobbs rarely play together even though the are, individually, our best central defenders. From his record Bruce is another right sided defender, hope I'm wrong on this, but I don't think so! There is not a big difference in my opinion, i can see it being a major issue in the full back areas but not in the centre. Brown in my opinion gets selected to be the voice in the centre half pairing ahead of the less experienced combo of Hobbs and Morrison. Take a look at the England team for the last 10 years, the best 2 central defenders in the managers view get picked, i doubt very much a player has been left out due to not being able to adapt to playing on his weaker side of the centre
Webbo Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 There is not a big difference in my opinion, i can see it being a major issue in the full back areas but not in the centre. Brown in my opinion gets selected to be the voice in the centre half pairing ahead of the less experienced combo of Hobbs and Morrison. Take a look at the England team for the last 10 years, the best 2 central defenders in the managers view get picked, i doubt very much a player has been left out due to not being able to adapt to playing on his weaker side of the centre Agreed.
davieG Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 There is not a big difference in my opinion, i can see it being a major issue in the full back areas but not in the centre. Brown in my opinion gets selected to be the voice in the centre half pairing ahead of the less experienced combo of Hobbs and Morrison. Take a look at the England team for the last 10 years, the best 2 central defenders in the managers view get picked, i doubt very much a player has been left out due to not being able to adapt to playing on his weaker side of the centre Maybe because they did adapt, Hobbs has been shown to be awful at right back and left CB, he's just not experienced enough even at right CB to adapt and I doubt Morrison is either - given time maybe.
Leicfox Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Chatting to a work mate who's an Ipswich fan today. He can't believe we've got Bruce on loan and was rather annoyed tbh. He really rates him.
Guest DavidJCW Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 Chatting to a work mate who's an Ipswich fan today.He can't believe we've got Bruce on loan and was rather annoyed tbh. He really rates him. Well that's good then... could be a positive move to strengthen the back line. If he does well we might even be able to get him in on a permanent to create some competition for Hobbs, Brown and Tunch when he gets back next year...
marbelladave Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 There is not a big difference in my opinion, i can see it being a major issue in the full back areas but not in the centre. Brown in my opinion gets selected to be the voice in the centre half pairing ahead of the less experienced combo of Hobbs and Morrison. Take a look at the England team for the last 10 years, the best 2 central defenders in the managers view get picked, i doubt very much a player has been left out due to not being able to adapt to playing on his weaker side of the centre You are clearly quite wrong, even your own example of the England team proves it to be an issue. Terry to the left, Ferdinand to the right, works just fine as these are their preferred positions. When Upson plays, Terry goes to the right and the quality of his play suffers, happens every time! Brown plays because Hobbs is awful on the left and Morrison clearly does not fancy it, ideally though one of them, most likely Morrison will have to make the adjustment. Sorry, but if you think this is a trivial matter then you have not been paying attention!
C-man Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 You are clearly quite wrong, even your own example of the England team proves it to be an issue.Terry to the left, Ferdinand to the right, works just fine as these are their preferred positions. When Upson plays, Terry goes to the right and the quality of his play suffers, happens every time! Brown plays because Hobbs is awful on the left and Morrison clearly does not fancy it, ideally though one of them, most likely Morrison will have to make the adjustment. Sorry, but if you think this is a trivial matter then you have not been paying attention! Whenever I play centre-half I couldn't care less which side of the pairing I'm on and I'm very left footed. Might matter to Hobbs and Morrison but to make a sweeping statement like that and dismiss Sparky's opinion like you did isn't right.
Sparky Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 You are clearly quite wrong, even your own example of the England team proves it to be an issue.Terry to the left, Ferdinand to the right, works just fine as these are their preferred positions. When Upson plays, Terry goes to the right and the quality of his play suffers, happens every time! Brown plays because Hobbs is awful on the left and Morrison clearly does not fancy it, ideally though one of them, most likely Morrison will have to make the adjustment. Sorry, but if you think this is a trivial matter then you have not been paying attention! No need to be sorry bud, everyone entitled to their opinion. Ive never seen any evidence of Terry suffering alongside Upson especially the "happens every time" bit. Centre halfs often will have to play in the areas of their weaker sides when following runs and covering in behind their centre back partner. Anyways like you say it may be getting a bit trivial.
CosbehFox Posted 2 February 2010 Posted 2 February 2010 You are clearly quite wrong, even your own example of the England team proves it to be an issue.Terry to the left, Ferdinand to the right, works just fine as these are their preferred positions. When Upson plays, Terry goes to the right and the quality of his play suffers, happens every time! Brown plays because Hobbs is awful on the left and Morrison clearly does not fancy it, ideally though one of them, most likely Morrison will have to make the adjustment. Sorry, but if you think this is a trivial matter then you have not been paying attention! I think peoples opinions are actually coming from playing at centre-half, I have no problem despite being very one-footed. Tbh, I actually think Terry;s better alongside Upson.... Personally find its better to determine between the pair of you whose going for the first ball from dead ball situations.
marbelladave Posted 3 February 2010 Posted 3 February 2010 I think peoples opinions are actually coming from playing at centre-half, I have no problem despite being very one-footed. Tbh, I actually think Terry;s better alongside Upson....Personally find its better to determine between the pair of you whose going for the first ball from dead ball situations. That is a valid point, one I was going to make but thought that it might confuse the issue. Some center back pairings take this much further, one attacks every ball that comes into the box, the other picks up the pieces and left or right barely matters. However this is not the case here and it is clear to all that Hobbs is very uncomfortable on the left so it clearly matters to him. At the highest level you play with your instincts and if they are even a little bit wrong then you are in trouble. On a similar matter, Oakley has been slated for his performances recently, mostly, I believe, because of his deployment to the right. His instinctive play was wrong so he had to think about what he was doing far too much, resulting in a slump in form. Back in the middle on saturday he was first class. Of course at this level any player can pretty much play any position, and 'do a job' but in the reality of top level football playing in your natural position gives you a big edge and this is the same whatever position you play.
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 February 2010 Posted 3 February 2010 Whenever I play centre-half I couldn't care less which side of the pairing I'm on and I'm very left footed. Might matter to Hobbs and Morrison but to make a sweeping statement like that and dismiss Sparky's opinion like you did isn't right. Have got to agree with Dave here, you play Sunday morning football it's a different kettel of fish.
Koke Posted 3 February 2010 Posted 3 February 2010 Never seen it as an issue either tbh. Always thought CB's were easily adaptable on both sides. Both Kisnorbo and McAuley were right-footers and they were a pretty solid unit for us.
Leicfox Posted 3 February 2010 Posted 3 February 2010 Just a note, (i think) Bruce does prefer the right side of the centre-half position. Surely there is a preference and it might have already be said. Say you have two centre-halfs who are both right-footed, as a manager id want the one with the stronger left foot to play left-sided to cover the left back if he gets caught out, so he could pass accurately with his left foot instead of cutting it back on to his right foot everytime. So it might not be as much as a player preference but more of a tatical one ?.
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