SOUSA OUT

[l444ry]

fair enough, I just think if people stop and consider it, 8 games, in the scheme of things is nothing. i don't want to drag up alex ferguson, or closer to home, martin oneill, but your naiive if you think a manager can stroll in and it clicks straight away. I'm not a big Sousa fan boy, I just worry about football these days!

ok guys answer this, we get someone you want in, they take 5 points from 8 games as well, do we sack them and have our 3rd manager of the season after 16 games, yes or no?

Depends if that new manager was making progress. With the best will in the world, Sousa is making things worse........rapidly!!!

[Matt]

fair enough, I just think if people stop and consider it, 8 games, in the scheme of things is nothing. i don't want to drag up alex ferguson, or closer to home, martin oneill, but your naiive if you think a manager can stroll in and it clicks straight away. I'm not a big Sousa fan boy, I just worry about football these days!

ok guys answer this, we get someone you want in, they take 5 points from 8 games as well, do we sack them and have our 3rd manager of the season after 16 games, yes or no?

Barr making us play 'pretty football' which quite frankly is hit and miss anyway, he's ruin us thought, making us worse.

Demolished any confidence, demolished a solid defence, can score, seems like he's lost the dressing room.

[shade]

mate If it can go wrong so quick, it can go right again just as fast, no? unlikely admittedly, but 7 point from next 9 and all this will be forgiven, fickle fickle people we are.

[howsyourfather]

"We played some great football this afternoon" "performance has city fans purring" "someone is going to take a beating soon" "the players are starting to understand sousa" "cardiff win will kick start season"

Stop feeding us with bullshit, we're shit and we have been all season. It will not get better under sousa, the players clearly hate him and something needs to be done very soon

[karl rudham]

Last night's debacle at Portsmouth was a disgrace, the defence were shocking, I can't remember Jamie Ashdown making a SINGLE save all game, how SOUSA can come out at the end and say he was PROUD of his players is beyond me. I find it hard to predict where the next league win is coming from. I except things take time under a new manager to come together, but under SOUSA we have gone backwards, each game's performance has got progressively worse and the body language of the players say there are a further problems off the field too. If we fail to beat Norwich and S****horpe which is likely on current showings we have to say bye bye Mr SOUSA.

[Houdini Logic]

houdini logic=no brain, see how that works, cretin

Euclid would be proud of you with a formula like that

[Guest BlueBrett]

I really don't know anymore. I've been saying give him time but now I'm beginning to wonder if he is right for this club. For me its not so much a question of the style he wants to play but the decisions he makes. I seem to disagree with almost every move he makes and I know I'm not alone in this. Taking Abe off last night was one of the worst tactical moves I have ever seen. As for Hobbs not starting..what the hell is that all about? I know Vitor has a decent game on Tuesday but even if Paulo felt he deserved to keep his place surely Hobbs should get the nod over Morrison? There are so many other things to complain about but frankly I can't be arsed at the moment. One last thing though. Why on earth was our 3million pound striker seen everywhere on the pitch apart from in the Pompey penalty area? Waghorn should just tell Soussa to f.uck himself and refuse to play on the wing. If he's there on the team sheet he should just say balls to this and go stand up top next to Stevie. I'd literally rather have a gaping hole on one side of the pitch but pose a threat in the box than see Waghorn's talent wasted like this. I wont say Soussa out just yet but if we aren't going to be at the top end of the league the only way he can redeem himself is if we WIN the Carling Cup.

[ithuriel]

Euclid would be proud of you with a formula like that

Want to throw insults expect them in return.

[RGFox]

Last night was truly awful. Even with 10 men.

At best - we can look like an impotent Arsenal, passing the ball well in the middle third, but with no cutting edge. The quality of crosses from the matches I've seen (Ok, only on Sky) has been poor.

The defence - from playing with confidence - top 6 form - has disappeared. I think the newer players will need quite a bit of time to adapt.

I think, in fairness, we ought to give him 15 games, and look to see some form of improvement.

Hopefully, last night was Sousa's watershed, a la MON's with Sheff Utd.

I can't recall our last thumping, albeit with ten men, on this scale for atleast 4-5 seasons. The morale and confidence has all but gone.

[Thracian]

The bloke does seem to be making life hard for himself.

Gets a result one day then makes all sorts of strange and unnecessary changes for the next match.

We're not Manchester United. We have still to sort out our best team and to get it playing competently and consistently. You can only make sensible improvements when a team is established and when its strengths and weaknesses can be properly evaluated.

And no changes should be made unless they cannot be helped or the manager is sure they will represent an improvement. It seems to me that the players badly need

confidence too. That is another thing that will only come with consistency of team selection and approach.

We are trying to introduce to many new players at the same time and often they are foreign players who almost certainly need proper time to adjust and acclimatise. Why would Sousa and others in authority at the club not realise this?

We seem to be so naive at Leicester. We scored a big own goal by not being able to sort our team out pre-season but how anyone can doubt that Sousa will need time to

build his foundations is beyond me. And whoever came in to replace him would need time too because there are two factions within the football camp now - the Pearsonites and the foreigners. They will only gel by developing mutual respect and if Sousa were replaced that problem wouldn't change. In fact I'd be surprised if there could possibly be harmony within the camp right now given all the players who might expect to play who are instead sitting on the sidelines.

The Pearsonites won't understand it having done so well in the past and the newly signed foreigners won't understand it having presumably been signed in the expectation that they would play. The wholesale upheaval has been close to catastrophic and we're desperate for some stability and some indication that Sousa knows what he wants and has the strength of character to deliver.

As others have mentioned dropping the likes of Wellens and Hobbs given our available options is as ridiculous as playing a striker on the wing (how City love to use non-specialist wingers for some inexplicable reason).

It is decisions like that far more than his desire to pass the ball that make Sousa's management so scary. That and signing such a poor loanee goalkeeper. These are simple things to get right and if Sousa gets nought out of four then you really have to question his appointment in the first place. But change him now and we'll likely have more chaos.

[Manwivaplan]

O'neil, Mark Robbins PAUL LAMBERT

[Manwivaplan]

Les Dennis OR paul lambert,is an improvement on what we have

[Kilworthfox]

The bloke does seem to be making life hard for himself.

Gets a result one day then makes all sorts of strange and unnecessary changes for the next match.

We're not Manchester United. We have still to sort out our best team and to get it playing competently and consistently. You can only make sensible improvements when a team is established and when its strengths and weaknesses can be properly evaluated.

And no changes should be made unless they cannot be helped or the manager is sure they will represent an improvement. It seems to me that the players badly need

confidence too. That is another thing that will only come with consistency of team selection and approach.

We are trying to introduce to many new players at the same time and often they are foreign players who almost certainly need proper time to adjust and acclimatise. Why would Sousa and others in authority at the club not realise this?

We seem to be so naive at Leicester. We scored a big own goal by not being able to sort our team out pre-season but how anyone can doubt that Sousa will need time to

build his foundations is beyond me. And whoever came in to replace him would need time too because there are two factions within the football camp now - the Pearsonites and the foreigners. They will only gel by developing mutual respect and if Sousa were replaced that problem wouldn't change. In fact I'd be surprised if there could possibly be harmony within the camp right now given all the players who might expect to play who are instead sitting on the sidelines.

The Pearsonites won't understand it having done so well in the past and the newly signed foreigners won't understand it having presumably been signed in the expectation that they would play. The wholesale upheaval has been close to catastrophic and we're desperate for some stability and some indication that Sousa knows what he wants and has the strength of character to deliver.

As others have mentioned dropping the likes of Wellens and Hobbs given our available options is as ridiculous as playing a striker on the wing (how City love to use non-specialist wingers for some inexplicable reason).

It is decisions like that far more than his desire to pass the ball that make Sousa's management so scary. That and signing such a poor loanee goalkeeper. These are simple things to get right and if Sousa gets nought out of four then you really have to question his appointment in the first place. But change him now and we'll likely have more chaos.

Major point!

Levein

Holloway

Allen

Kelly

Let's not fall into the changing the manager period again please, it ended in relegation to our lowest ever point

[Houdini Logic]

Want to throw insults expect them in return.

I'm all for insults, but I tend to find they work better when they have some substance.

You may want to make a note of that in your N-Dubz noteook

[Manwivaplan]

why all these names.

o'neill, o'neill, o'neill, ffs. He's out of work and were desperate.or failing that Paul Lambert

[Matt]

mate If it can go wrong so quick, it can go right again just as fast, no? unlikely admittedly, but 7 point from next 9 and all this will be forgiven, fickle fickle people we are.

Hope the do mate really do, I don't want this bloke to fail, why would I? Why would I want him to fail thus making me miserable because my football team has lost.

Really hope he proves me wrong, Make me eat my words, Make me embaressed to have laid into him so much, Can't see though, but be more than happy if he proves me wrong. Go for it Paulo.

[Manwivaplan]

I'd rather have the following people in charge than Sousa:

Any competent manager

Iain Dowie

PAUL LAMBERT

John Gregory

Craig who won the second series of Big Brother.

[Trav Le Bleu]

We're not Manchester United. We have still to sort out our best team and to get it playing competently and consistently. You can only make sensible improvements when a team is established and when its strengths and weaknesses can be properly evaluated.

And no changes should be made unless they cannot be helped or the manager is sure they will represent an improvement. It seems to me that the players badly need

confidence too. That is another thing that will only come with consistency of team selection and approach.

We are trying to introduce to many new players at the same time and often they are foreign players who almost certainly need proper time to adjust and acclimatise. Why would Sousa and others in authority at the club not realise this?

We seem to be so naive at Leicester. We scored a big own goal by not being able to sort our team out pre-season but how anyone can doubt that Sousa will need time to

build his foundations is beyond me. And whoever came in to replace him would need time too because there are two factions within the football camp now - the Pearsonites and the foreigners. They will only gel by developing mutual respect and if Sousa were replaced that problem wouldn't change. In fact I'd be surprised if there could possibly be harmony within the camp right now given all the players who might expect to play who are instead sitting on the sidelines.

The Pearsonites won't understand it having done so well in the past and the newly signed foreigners won't understand it having presumably been signed in the expectation that they would play. The wholesale upheaval has been close to catastrophic and we're desperate for some stability and some indication that Sousa knows what he wants and has the strength of character to deliver.

As others have mentioned dropping the likes of Wellens and Hobbs given our available options is as ridiculous as playing a striker on the wing (how City love to use non-specialist wingers for some inexplicable reason).

It is decisions like that far more than his desire to pass the ball that make Sousa's management so scary. That and signing such a poor loanee goalkeeper. These are simple things to get right and if Sousa gets nought out of four then you really have to question his appointment in the first place. But change him now and we'll likely have more chaos.

I think your comment about PS being effectively dropped in the deep-end (even by footballing standards) and any new manager being caught between two camps are spot on. Your team shouldn't be a "work-in-progress" 8 games into the leage season, but he's had little choice in the matter. It would have been either that or keep playing NPs men in NPs style, in which case, why get rid of him (and I strongly believe we did get rid of him, rather than his being lured by the glamour of Hull)

[ithuriel]

I'm all for insults, but I tend to find they work better when they have some substance.

You may want to make a note of that in your N-Dubz noteook

glass houses comes to mind

[marbelladave]

After the horror of last night I am depressed and fed up, I want things to change and I want it now, perfectly normal.

I really want to agree with those who want to stick with Sousa, try and get some consistency and confidence and start to play our way out of trouble, but I have a big problem with this.

There appears to be a fair size group of players who simply do not seem to understand or even care what Sousa is trying to do. This is devisive as has been pointed out elsewhere and stalwart players such as Morrison, Hobbs, Wellens, King and Fryatt have all been benched/dropped because they are unable or unwilling to play the way Sousa wants them to play.

In particular Morrison and Hobbs simply can not reconcile Sousa's view on center back play with their own 'natural' style that they have obviously been playing for years. This has lead to hesitation and uncertainty in the center of our defence, the root cause of all our problems.

Sure there are other issues but with a tight, solid back 4 we could work through these, no chance of doing that with our current defensive chaos.

[ibbosuk]

6-1 ( IS ) chaos..... he will be gone by Xmas.

The bloke does seem to be making life hard for himself.

Gets a result one day then makes all sorts of strange and unnecessary changes for the next match.

We're not Manchester United. We have still to sort out our best team and to get it playing competently and consistently. You can only make sensible improvements when a team is established and when its strengths and weaknesses can be properly evaluated.

And no changes should be made unless they cannot be helped or the manager is sure they will represent an improvement. It seems to me that the players badly need

confidence too. That is another thing that will only come with consistency of team selection and approach.

We are trying to introduce to many new players at the same time and often they are foreign players who almost certainly need proper time to adjust and acclimatise. Why would Sousa and others in authority at the club not realise this?

We seem to be so naive at Leicester. We scored a big own goal by not being able to sort our team out pre-season but how anyone can doubt that Sousa will need time to

build his foundations is beyond me. And whoever came in to replace him would need time too because there are two factions within the football camp now - the Pearsonites and the foreigners. They will only gel by developing mutual respect and if Sousa were replaced that problem wouldn't change. In fact I'd be surprised if there could possibly be harmony within the camp right now given all the players who might expect to play who are instead sitting on the sidelines.

The Pearsonites won't understand it having done so well in the past and the newly signed foreigners won't understand it having presumably been signed in the expectation that they would play. The wholesale upheaval has been close to catastrophic and we're desperate for some stability and some indication that Sousa knows what he wants and has the strength of character to deliver.

As others have mentioned dropping the likes of Wellens and Hobbs given our available options is as ridiculous as playing a striker on the wing (how City love to use non-specialist wingers for some inexplicable reason).

It is decisions like that far more than his desire to pass the ball that make Sousa's management so scary. That and signing such a poor loanee goalkeeper. These are simple things to get right and if Sousa gets nought out of four then you really have to question his appointment in the first place. But change him now and we'll likely have more chaos.

[Matt]

Another thing playing this type of 'pretty football' will get you no-where in this league.

I have always said and will stand by that if Man Utd, Arsenal (Especially Arsenal), Chelsea, e.t.c, alot of your decent Premiership clubs would struggle like fuck if they came down to the Championship because the Championship is a physical tough league, In the Premiership you need skillfull 'pretty football' you chuck that out the window in the Championship and Sousa even touched on this last week after the QPR game saying he thought QPR were to physical for us, well done Sousa for telling every club in the division how to play against us.

[WardyisPukka]

Ill be the 1st to admit I was excited by Sousa and what he had to bring to the club but its been a farce since the start !! he wasnt brought here under the right terms!! i want him to prove me wrong but i feel he wont!! PLUS WHERE IS OUR APOLOGY FOR LAST NIGHT'S DISPLAY !! most managers/players would apologise to their fans for some an inept performance but what do we get , "im proud of the players" bullshit , im afraid LCFC aint getting any of my money anytime soon , trip down to the emirates(closet to me as i live london) for me this whole situation and how sousa who brought here and how the club has been sold etc etc just made me feel disillusioned and at the moment id rather go and spend 40 quid plus watching a team i dont even support just so i do get so incensed if they lose win or watever !! just how i feel !!

[southdevonfox]

Ill be the 1st to admit I was excited by Sousa and what he had to bring to the club but its been a farce since the start !! he wasnt brought here under the right terms!! i want him to prove me wrong but i feel he wont!! PLUS WHERE IS OUR APOLOGY FOR LAST NIGHT'S DISPLAY !! most managers/players would apologise to their fans for some an inept performance but what do we get , "im proud of the players" bullshit , im afraid LCFC aint getting any of my money anytime soon , trip down to the emirates(closet to me as i live london) for me this whole situation and how sousa who brought here and how the club has been sold etc etc just made me feel disillusioned and at the moment id rather go and spend 40 quid plus watching a team i dont even support just so i do get so incensed if they lose win or watever !! just how i feel !!

at least u get passion from a english manager.

[Chrysalis]

this was due after 2 games.