AoWW Posted 20 November 2010 Author Posted 20 November 2010 Bit sensitive ain't ya! Time of the month? On a serious note I thought you were one of the twits who shouted to give Sousa more time? As you had done with Ollie when we went down? Hehe nice one Try not to act like you're 12 years old. Assuming you aren't, that is.
stix Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Oh, and Yukis wave was amazing . That was comedy gold! And the mardy arsed groundsman telling chrissy p to get off the pitch was funny too.
FoxyPV Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 We conceded two goals and wasted another million or so chances but I always take heart from the fact that this is the Championship and you can never predict what's going to happen. Disappointed with today but hoping we can bounce back with a win against Florist and we're back on track. (granted that's a big ask)
Thracian Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 But my point is that Waghorn and Fryatt were playing with far more confidence last season and were scoring goals. Now they are not. What do you put that down to? I can think of a multitude of possible reasons.
Kitchandro Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 I can think of a multitude of possible reasons. Well i can think of some too and they're all down to Sousa: DJ being picked ahead of Fryatt Waghorn being played out wide Too much emphasis on passing as opposed to getting near the goal Poor early season results Poor fitness levels These things could have had an effect on their confidence. It is very clear that that is what's lacking. Because they don't just become shit.
shailen Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 look its one match. i know its disappointing the way we played especially in the first half we should have won this match. At the risk of sounding unpopular fryatt should have started today. along with dyer instead of vassell. Fryatt would have buried those chances, and howard cannot play on his own up front without players like vassell and gallagher coming in for support. Either play Howard and Fryatt together or dont play howard. I know people say fryatt is selfish but at least he is prepared to have a shot and his shots are usually on target and he is a good finisher. He is the only one in our squad who can get 15-20 goals in a season except for our exceptional young talent kingy!
maddog Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Some of our attacks and passing today was breathtaking. Naughton and Cunningham charging up the wings like bulls. How the hell did we not score? Bristol are one of the worst sides I've seen us play, we need to work on our finishing lost count of the amount of times the ball rolled slowly across their area and no one was there to tap it in. Gally was shit today, waghorns finishing seems to have got lost. Howard played well but ultimately his poor peno probably cost us all 3 points, shame on another day we would have scored 3 or more.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Still no goal from a corner, shambles.
-Birstall LCFC- Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 I know that all the 'keep the faith' brigade (eg. Babylon et al) will come out with another string of rubbish excuses...but this loss today is a VERY bad one against a poor Bristol City side. If Sven cannot find SOMEONE (? ) who is gonna put the fookin chances away we arent going anywhere. Sven will come out with his usual load of bollox (although does he actually SAY anything really?)but it is clear now and has been all season that our scouts have got to find us a good striker..... Quite simply if we would have taken our chances we would have won that match..end of... Swap Fryatt for Varney and abit of cash.
Bugg Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 How we did not win that game I will never know. We were completely dominant against a pretty average Bristol City side, but if we don't take our chances we get punished for it and we duly did. We haven't scored from a corner in a ridiculous amount of games and our strikers just can't seem to find the net. I really didn't think we deserved to lose though considering how disinterested they're team looked in attacking. Weale's mistake was a disaster but I think he's a good 'keeper overall (I'm not starting a debate before someone gets the hump about my opinion) and I think he will hopefully come back stronger.
Thracian Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Well i can think of some too and they're all down to Sousa: DJ being picked ahead of Fryatt Waghorn being played out wide Too much emphasis on passing as opposed to getting near the goal Poor early season results Poor fitness levels These things could have had an effect on their confidence. It is very clear that that is what's lacking. Because they don't just become shit. a) Sousa, like Holloway, clearly saw DJ as the more dangerous striker and wanted him to stay. However, DJ knew he was heading for the Premiership and had no desire to remain here. Fryatt's response should have been to stay fit and fight for his place. Like others have had too when he's been picked. b) Waghorn should have been glad he was in the team at all, and probably was in truth. He doesn't hold the ball well enough to be the pivotal striker nor is he particularly good in the air. In the system Sven plays, Waghorn's never going to be the ideal centre-forward especially with his first touch being so unreliable. At £2m plus the bloke could be weighed down by expectations at a time when he should be improving his game dramatically. Being so one footed is another failing and one that Championship defenders might well have latched onto by now. c) Sven wants us to pass the ball too - the same as any manager with realistic hopes of turning us into a decent team. I've seen the chances our passing has created for us under both Sousa and Sven and they've been enough to win the vast majority of games. It's not our passing that's costing us but our schoolboy lapses in concentration defensively and our failing to take those chances for various reasons. Like lofting the ball over the bar, shooting wide, failing to get into the box fast enough or failing to get on the end of perfectly good crosses or to make anything of our corners and free-kicks. d) If we hadn't created what seems like far more chances than seemed to be the case last season I might agree but we've played a lot of confident football this season, including today but simply failed to finish. That's been down to no-one but the finishers and of these I'd say only King has been up to expectations. e) Fitness levels were a factor in terms of our sharpness getting into the box, our ability to sustain attacks and more. But it's not been a factor for a while now and we've put together a perfectly reasonable run of confidence-building results. Today should have been another. Furthermore in accepting Sousa's contribution to those poor fitness levels I don't see why players shouldn't have kept themselves fit. It's not as if they were training all day anyway. So, as I said, the Sousa effect has been minimal. But, Fryatt may well have had his head turned by known pockets of interest and found it difficult to maintain sufficient motivation or fitness when not being first choice and Waghorn may well have been sussed for his one-footed style and the limitations to his game. He might also be finding it hard to fit into Sven's style of play....things which have nothing to do with Sousa.
KFS Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Most teams have some sort of golden boy up front and we don't at the moment
Babylon Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Bit sensitive ain't ya! Time of the month? On a serious note I thought you were one of the twits who shouted to give Sousa more time? As you had done with Ollie when we went down? Hehe nice one I dont like stating the obvious... But clearly you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 I don't really see how you can give your view on this game, If you didn't actually go. Mates have said BBC said we were dominant, Sky said Bristol were, BBC RL said blah blah. The thing is simple. We need another striker, we've been saying this all season. Waghorn looks to be a waste of money, Fryatt's not being played/and is not performing. Steve Howard is playing great. It's seems the only people in the team Sven is sure on is, Howard, Abe, King and the back four. We clearly are not clinical. We need a goalscorer. Bothroyd, Iwelumo, Becchio, Mackie, Chopra. These are all examples of the type of striker we need. I'm not sure if Miller would be the answer. I'd rather have Bednar. All in all, It was a good day out, Fosse Boys were great today. Coach 4 was a good laugh.
marbelladave Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Bloody football, spend most of the day trolling back and forth to Bristol and we bloody lose 2-0. To be serious, I suggested in my posts last week, that the performance against Derby was not all that great, it was a great result true, but only a late penalty gave it any semblance of real credibility. Today, first half, we were just as good as we were against Derby, perhaps not quite as our passing lacked a bit of precision and neither Gallagher or Vassell played far enough forward, but we were the away side and the differences were really pretty small. Last week we missed a hatful of chances but King managed to score from open play, this week we missed a hatful of chances, King got brought down in the box but Howard missed a penalty. That was it, the only difference that mattered, Howard should have scored, we would have been ahead at half time and despite the occasional second half wobble we would have won the game. Instead we came out for the second half looking less than convincing, sure we were still bossing the game but we looked even less likely to score than before the break. We really were making poor decisions, shooting when we should be passing, passing when we should be shooting, what efforts we did have rarely troubled James. The Bristol goal, when it game, was heavily against the run of play but to anyone who has watched us regularly, had an air of inevitability about it. Svens response was to bring on Dyer for Vassell, not really effective as Dyer took an age to get into the game and even then produced nothing of note. Shortly after Waghorn replaced King, we went 4-4-2 but that made no real difference as out shape and general play had been fine, our finishing in and around the box was the problem and the changes did nothing to improve that. Waghorn trying to pass when he should have been shooting, Gallagher shooting when he should have been playing someone in and Howard flicking balls on and laying balls off to, well no-one really. We lost because we could not score against a pretty poor Bristol side, simple as!
Kenners Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Stringers twitter: The Andy King @kingy_10 injury was a hamstring strain. The severity of which is unclear as yet. I'll try and find out for 'The Forum' on Mon
CKB Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 I'm disappointed but some stuff i have read in this thread is pure laughable! Catastrophic Rubbish Shit Awful ...etc, etc! Ok right you would be allowed them thoughts (minus the castatrophic one because that is just retarded) IF we had actually played poor but we didn't it was just not our day today.. We didn't take chances, we missed a pen, a poor goalkeeping error which imo means nothing because if we had clinical strikers/players in our side that would have just been a minus point but still that bloke Clarkson is it? took that bloody well! I see much improvement but we have to get more clinical because that will be the difference in trying to get a play-off place or staying around the 10/16th place mark. .So this is where Sven comes into play and he has to look at what clinical goalscorers are out there.. Is Miller one of them? i can't judge as i haven't seen him enough, yes he has power and pace but we need goals and i'm starting to wonder if there are many options out there for Sven AT this current time I may not be the biggest Fryatt fan but i laughed also when i saw people blaming him aswell! So he's meant to come on for 10 mins and score 10 goals is he?? He has no confidence in himself anymore and i'm not sure if he even wants to be here? If his attitude is all wrong no wonder he is getting no chance under Sven i'd not pick him either We just need that extra bit of clinicalness in our side and i believe we have the basis to really push on but the potential hardest part is trying to get the players in to add this much needed piece of the jigsaw puzzle to our team
BoneDog Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 I've just been for a game of Ping-Pong and I still don't feel any better.
lcfc_jme Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Deary me, they are probably a worse side than the Barnsley side who played the 1st half against us a couple of weeks ago. Never for one moment in the game did I feel we were uncomfortable or being caused problems, we were so much in control it was inevitable we'd end up losing, really. Saying that, for all of what seemed like dominance and control, we barely created a clear-cut chance after the first 20 minutes, and to be honest that's just not good enough especially against a dog-shit outfit like them. Yes, if Howard had scored the pen it'd have been a different game, but meh. The simple fact is if you don't score when you're on top, you tend to get beat. Bringing Howard off today was an absolutely criminal decision on Sven's part. He won every single header he went up for and if any of our players had half a brain they'd have seen every single one went to the left of their last defender - why not just position yourself there in order to win the ball? Couldn't see down the other end for their goal no idea whether or not it crossed the line but after that, it was obvious we were destined to lose. Fair play to Weale for wanting to get the attack started quickly at the end but for the love of God if you're going to throw the fvcking ball out to a defender make sure a) the defender is switched on and b) you throw the fvcking ball accurately. The bloke was still around 30 yards from goal, and suprise suprise Weale flapped like a cvnt again and got beat. The guy's actually a joke when shots come at him from further than 18 yards. And I don't care what anybody says, Fryatt is an absolute disgrace. I swear I can only recall him having 1 touch when he got on the field, and that was a dreadful piece of "control" off of his shoulder. Well played Matthew, effective contribution and way to show Sven you should play more of a role. Oh, and before I forget, I was very, very disappointed to hear some attempts at starting EDL songs in our away end today. Very disappointed indeed. On a positive note, Samir Nasri won me some money. Cheers then.
Bugg Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Anyone hear the Bristol fans singing "Leicester's a shithole, it smells of curry" and other asian related songs about leicester?
lestajigs Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Please let king be fit for nottingSCUM forest!!!! If not I'm gonna pull my left eye ball out with a spoon!!!!!
CKB Posted 21 November 2010 Posted 21 November 2010 Anyone hear the Bristol fans singing "Leicester's a shithole, it smells of curry" and other asian related songs about leicester? Just call them all Welsh, they hate it
Daggers Posted 21 November 2010 Posted 21 November 2010 Anyone hear the Bristol fans singing "Leicester's a shithole, it smells of curry" and other asian related songs about leicester? Shit. No?! The ****ers. We should attack them for being the bastards who invented slavery or something. Cvnts. My life is never going to be the same again. The bastards.
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