Guest Bilo Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 I would argue at the moment that the pull of us due to our perceived ambition, size of club, quality of management and existing playing staff probably makes us one of the more attractive Championship clubs. The only clubs I'd be worried about competing with would be West Ham, Forest, Leeds and to a lesser extent Birmingham cos of the parachute payments. I wouldn't necessarily call that arrogant, it just means that at the moment we're lucky enough to have the funds most clubs in this division don't.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 Its great we havd ambition, but that ambition should come from the team- as it is doing. But when our fans make out everyone wants to play for us its embarassing! Were a good championship team with a good manager and a bit (NOT A LOT) of money. It doesnt make us irrestible
Burmesefox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 I dont understand us Foxes bragging about how we have loads of money and can buy anyone we like and match the Premiership sides in the transfer market. There is no doubt that we seem to have a degree of financial security however, we have yet to flex our financial arm in the market place and we certainly havent spent yet with the exception of wages on loanees. We cannot compete with the Premiership teams as the pull they have is far greater than the money we reportedly have. Lets face it the attraction of playing for west Ham and Brum is greater than playing for us as they are closer to the Prem (having just come down) and they also have the parachute payments to bring in extra players. I shouldn't go around bragging about the size of our cock as it may be a decent size when limp but it has yet to be tested when hard!
sphericalfox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 Have to agree with reazon here. Some of our fans border on arrogant. Is wasnt so long ago that we nearly didn't have a club! Ok we've come into some money- happy days. But that doesn't necessarily mean were gonna appeal to players! Someone said 'we can match premiership bids so hes just as likely to come here' no he's not! In the schmeichel thread someone put 'leeds will only finish mid table, why would he not want to come here?' yeh cos were nailed on for promotion aint we? Its embarassing, yet fans then wonder why we're not well liked! Stu it's all about a defensive mechanism from both sides. NOBODY is asking Leeds or Bristol fans to come onto a LCFC forum and give it the 'big one'. The same has gone for LCFC fans in the past who when a team with money comes knocking and buys a popular or player with great potential. LCFC fans have flocked to that team's site and either berated the player for being rubbish anyways, we didn't want him, he'll be rubbish for you, or how dare you think you have greater aspirations than us. Therefore the 'visiting fans' make themselves feel better and superior for either 'getting rid of rubbish' and moving onto better things, or claiming the interested teams' fans as delusional for even thinking they could buy their player. You could even go back to encounters with managers we've nabbed or have left for other shores to prove the point. The simple fact is we probably have as much money as Bristol. However you can have all the money in the world but if you don't have a credible chance of promotion you will not attract a higher level of player to the club. It also goes to say that a player won't decide to join you until they see that plan, and see the calibre of players that might be around them. Now I don't know a tremendous amount about BCFC, however, if I was to hazard a guess about who a player might decide to play under, would it be Keith Millen or Sven Goran-Eriksson? The Premiership question is a good one. Why haven't any Premiership teams been linked with this player? Well it's obvious. It's a financial risk to buy a player quoted as £3mil + who has only recovered from injury, and is completly unproven in the top division. Therefore in my view it is highly likely that those who can afford the transfer fee and prove to the player the best opportunity for promotion and continued success who will be successful in bringing him to their club. Leicester City have just as good a chance of doing this as the other teams mooted in the press. Bristol City will have to equal the measures that the clubs sniffing around him are currently doing or in the pipeline. I don't see that happening, and moaning about on other team's forums is a good indicator that subconsciously you fear without this player that you have little chance of matching these measures now.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 There are some posters with their heads screwed on afterall!
Babylon Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 As a Bristol City fan, reading through this thread all I can say is 'WOW'! Can you pin point the exact moment in time when you disappeared up your own a*se? No one is saying Leicester arent ambitious and there arent many realistic BC fans that think we are on equal footing, but why do you find it so hard to accept that having seem Maynard develop over the last few years, we genuinely think hes too good for ANY other team in this division. You are in the second division, remember? Get over it.. Have premier league teams been falling over themselves to sign him? Errrrr no.
Babylon Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 Have to agree with reazon here. Some of our fans border on arrogant. Is wasnt so long ago that we nearly didn't have a club! Ok we've come into some money- happy days. But that doesn't necessarily mean were gonna appeal to players! Someone said 'we can match premiership bids so hes just as likely to come here' no he's not! In the schmeichel thread someone put 'leeds will only finish mid table, why would he not want to come here?' yeh cos were nailed on for promotion aint we? Its embarassing, yet fans then wonder why we're not well liked! Every club is the same. I thought their fans were ok yesterday but there are as many deluded **** wits on there as there are on here.
KFS Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 I think the media have over-hyped our funding and that will be our downfall this Summer. If clubs know we supposedly have money to spend, then they will drive the prices up, meaning we will fall short, because the money isn't actually there/ we end up over paying. This could be why we're seeing West Ham linked with our transfer targets. They know that we are in contention for good things this season, and that they have the ability to edge us financially, meaning out-bidding and extortionate wages offered. I'm just not sure whether it's because they have money through parachute payments and sale of players, or they know that we don't have the money that the media are boasting! It's so frustrating
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 You make some good points spherical fox. I cant reply in full as im at work and on a mobile! If other teams want to visit our forum then fair enough, but when they come on here, read the maynard thread from scratch, (i bet there are loads of posts saying 'why wouldnt he come here?' but im not going through 26pages to find them!) You would get bugged by reading them. Derby fans say to me that the reason they hate us so much is because we think we're always bigger and better than we are! I cant help but agree
Corky Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 No one is saying Leicester arent ambitious and there arent many realistic BC fans that think we are on equal footing, but why do you find it so hard to accept that having seem Maynard develop over the last few years, we genuinely think hes too good for ANY other team in this division. It doesn't matter what you think, if we put enough money up for you to sell and then enough for Maynard to accept he'll be our player, whether he's too good for this division or not.
Foxybeaver Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 If they turn down 4-4.5 million just leave it we need to improve in other postions as well
acooling08 Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 From the Merc: Leeds United have accepted a bid from Leicester City for goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel, but Bristol City have rejected City's offer for striker Nicky Maynard. United have announced they have decided to sell the 24-year-old Dane after accepting an undisclosed offer, believed to be around £1 million. Since then, in his own statement, Schmeichel has expressed his shock at the news. However, City still face a fight to convince Bristol to part company with their record signing Maynard, and it may be the player himself who will break the deadlock. A bid, believed to be around £3 million, was tabled over the weekend for the 24-year-old striker but Robins chairman Colin Sexstone still insists their star striker will not be sold, and certainly not to another Championship club. Sexstone, who has revealed that two other Championship clubs have expressed an interest in Maynard, added that if the player indicated he wanted to leave then Bristol may be forced to rethink. "We don't want to sell Nicky – we want to keep him," Sexstone told the Bristol Evening Post. "Nicky is still away on holiday but when the players report back next week, the manager is going to chat to him. "He has always indicated to us that he wants to stay, but if he indicates that he doesn't want to stay, then that puts a different complexion on it. But we don't want to sell him – and we certainly don't want to sell him to a Championship club. "Until Nicky signs a contract here – or doesn't – the speculation and interest from other clubs will continue, because he is a good player. "We have had two more clubs express an interest. We have had a direct offer from one club and informal inquiries from two other Championship clubs. "Those clubs haven't made us an offer but there was one phone call and one email asking would we be interested in letting him go and, if so, how much would we want? The answer to both was 'no' – but it means people are circling and I don't expect this will be the end of it." Schmeichel has worked with City boss Sven-Goran Eriksson at Manchester City and at Notts County, but is not the only goalkeeper under consideration. The Mercury understands two other stoppers have been targeted by City. Schmeichel is out of contract next summer at Elland Road and Leeds say talks over a new deal have failed. But Schmeichel denies this, saying he was never offered a new deal, and Leeds' surprise announcement may be an attempt to force through a transfer. Although City have made the offer, they are still considering all their goalkeeping options. "I have been put in a very difficult situation and will spend some time considering my options for my future," said Schmeichel.
sphericalfox Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 acooling - that's nothing we didn't know yesterday. Or quite frankly from the start of the Maynard saga.
ithuriel Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 Would not go higher than £3,000,000 for this guy, he will walk away from them on a free in a years time anyway unless he gets crocked again.
acooling08 Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 acooling - that's nothing we didn't know yesterday. Or quite frankly from the start of the Maynard saga. Well our interest in Nicky and the unwillingness of BCFC was known, but not that we'd made an offer. At least I didn't know anyway
Callabinho Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 All gone quiet over Maynard! I'd love to see him here but I fear he will pick forest or west ham,
Ric Flair Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 All gone quiet over Maynard! I'd love to see him here but I fear he will pick forest or west ham, He's on holiday so even if we whack another bid in, we'll have to wait to talk to him.
Simmsy Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 How has it all gone quiet? We've only just had a bid rejected.
Callabinho Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 He's on holiday so even if we whack another bid in, we'll have to wait to talk to him. I know that, i was referring to the banter that was going on
Simmsy Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 I know that, i was referring to the banter that was going on Oh, sorry. That just went straight over my head.
MC Prussian Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 The whole Maynard saga is a perfect example of how the off-season works. Throw in a greedy agent, an (allegedly) unhappy player and a "rich" club on one side, add a little rumours about the asking price, inflate it whenever possible (worth £3m to £4m with his recent injury record? I don't think so), and mix it with contradictionary, heated argumentation from both sets of fans. There you go. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Maynard was to stay with Brizzle, after all.
Babylon Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 Wouldn't surprise me at all if Maynard was to stay with Brizzle, after all. Or me. Until the lad decides everyone will be in limbo. On the Brizzle sites I'm sure I saw something about his mum being his agent This one could drag on a while yet, certainly past the start of preseason.
MC Prussian Posted 21 June 2011 Posted 21 June 2011 If he's too good for any team in this division then he wouldn't be at you, Leicester can match bids of Premier League sides - therefore he's as likely to go to us, does it really matter to you lot where your money comes from? Well done on remembering we're in the second division, it's a good job you lot are so used to it. That's a very daring thing to claim - again, not saying we don't have money to spend, but we certainly don't have an overabundance, either. I wouldn't really brag too much about it. It can all go downhill real quick in this business, regardless of how committed the Raksiaksorns are. Smart investment is what it's all about.
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