lestajigs Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 I wish people would stop saying its still early, we need to do more to our squad than most in this division, especially to live up to being one of the favourites (Which we are clearly not) We have to sign (AT LEAST) half a team that's going to come in and be established 1st team players!! Generally speaking when you buy anything the best buys are usually picked up early on. We are all expecting a minimum of top 6, or automatic promotion. I would say we are at least 6 1st team players short of that goal. I just hope Sven has a few quality foreign up his sleeve!!! What were you expecting half a new squad in 14 days, its never gonna happen, most players are still on there holidays for a start!! As said there2weeks till preseason and over 6 weeks till the season starts, so stop panicking there's really no need at the minute!!
KFS Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 FOOK YOU AGYIEBENI!!! IF I WAS OFFERED HALF MY CURRENT WEEKLY WAGE BY AN EMPLOYER I'D SNAP THEIR HAND OFF! PISS OFF BACK TO SOMALIA. :')
escos Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 FOOK YOU AGYIEBENI!!! IF I WAS OFFERED HALF MY CURRENT WEEKLY WAGE BY AN EMPLOYER I'D SNAP THEIR HAND OFF! PISS OFF BACK TO SOMALIA. Brilliant.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 FOOK YOU AGYIEBENI!!! IF I WAS OFFERED HALF MY CURRENT WEEKLY WAGE BY AN EMPLOYER I'D SNAP THEIR HAND OFF! PISS OFF BACK TO SOMALIA. I wouldn't be too bothered if I got paid the amount he did, didn't need the money anyway, and got to play football in the Championship with a Club the size of Leicester City when I was past my best and no Premiership Club wanted me. Footballers just don't realise how lucky they are.
Ric Flair Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 I wouldn't be too bothered if I got paid the amount he did, didn't need the money anyway, and got to play football in the Championship with a Club the size of Leicester City when I was past my best and no Premiership Club wanted me. Footballers just don't realise how lucky they are. Well you're a moron then. African footballers notoriously use a lot of their wages to fund projects back home and if Yakubu is one of them then taking a million pound a year pay cut when you don't necessarily need to is ludicrous. If we want Yakubu we have got to and should have to wedge him up accordingly.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Well you're a moron then. African footballers notoriously use a lot of their wages to fund projects back home and if Yakubu is one of them then taking a million pound a year pay cut when you don't necessarily need to is ludicrous. If we want Yakubu we have got to and should have to wedge him up accordingly. Or we could just forget it. It's no interest of ours what he gives to charity. The Club does it's bits for charity but we don't need to fund his as well. He might give it to charity, he might not, you don't even know that.
Ric Flair Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Or we could just forget it. It's no interest of ours what he gives to charity. The Club does it's bits for charity but we don't need to fund his as well. He might give it to charity, he might not, you don't even know that. No, I don't know that but I do know that nobody in their right mind at 28 years of age from a deprived upbringing, in a career that doesn't last long would happily take a 50% pay cut without looking at his options. We need to work out is he worth more than £20,000 a week? I'd not break our pay structure for anyone at this level as we're capable of paying more than a lot of clubs and we need to remain sensible where possible. But if we can afford to then I'd welcome The Yak back as he'll score us 20+ goals no question.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 No, I don't know that but I do know that nobody in their right mind at 28 years of age from a deprived upbringing, in a career that doesn't last long would happily take a 50% pay cut without looking at his options. We need to work out is he worth more than £20,000 a week? I'd not break our pay structure for anyone at this level as we're capable of paying more than a lot of clubs and we need to remain sensible where possible. But if we can afford to then I'd welcome The Yak back as he'll score us 20+ goals no question. So now it's about him and not charities then? No point bringing up charities it just sounds like you're trying to make excuses for him. If he wants 50K a week or whatever then that's his choice but we don't have to pay it. 20K a week is still a huge amount of money. If he's been paid 50K a week for the last 2 years I bet he doesn't know what to do with it all, charities or not. I'm sure his deprived upbringing is a factor for his greed but football should be more important. He's stringing it out as well and if he's not going to sign he's wasted time we could be using to get someone else. Anyway I should think we've offered him a reasonable deal for a Club in our position. He wouldn't be the first footballer holding out for more than he deserves.
Ric Flair Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 So now it's about him and not charities then? No point bringing up charities it just sounds like you're trying to make excuses for him. If he wants 50K a week or whatever then that's his choice but we don't have to pay it. 20K a week is still a huge amount of money. If he's been paid 50K a week for the last 2 years I bet he doesn't know what to do with it all, charities or not. I'm sure his deprived upbringing is a factor for his greed but football should be more important. He's stringing it out as well and if he's not going to sign he's wasted time we could be using to get someone else. Anyway I should think we've offered him a reasonable deal for a Club in our position. He wouldn't be the first footballer holding out for more than he deserves. Sorry Dad. I shouldn't have mentioned the charities. I was merely suggesting a reason as to why he would be reluctant to take a massive pay cut. 50% tax on anything earned over £50,000 a year as well. You'd be a prat to take such a hit to your salary when you have only 5-6 years left in the game. Mother Teresa or not.
Legend_in_blue Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Supposing he doesn't come here I'll at those people who think he is capable of 20+ goals a season because despite his ability he is a lazy bugger and won't last a full Championship season in terms of fitness. No chance. He won't manage more than 15. We're better off with Maynard. Younger, fitter and in terms of ability and prospects moving forwards, his career is heading in the right direction and not in a downward spiral. Yakubu not coming here is a blessing in disguise.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Supposing he doesn't come here I'll at those people who think he is capable of 20+ goals a season because despite his ability he is a lazy bugger and won't last a full Championship season in terms of fitness. No chance. He won't manage more than 15. We're better off with Maynard. Younger, fitter and in terms of ability and prospects moving forwards, his career is heading in the right direction and not in a downward spiral. Yakubu not coming here is a blessing in disguise. Possibly the most ludicrous post i've ever read. PM me and we'll have a private wager on it. If he goes to West Ham he'll score at least 20.
Legend_in_blue Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Possibly the most ludicrous post i've ever read. PM me and we'll have a private wager on it. If he goes to West Ham he'll score at least 20. So are you willing to accept he will be the league's top goalscorer this season as well? Not many achieve more than 20 in a season. Only a select few. He's got to last the season fitness wise to achieve this and I can't see him doing that. He looked knackered for us after a handful of games. How will he manage up to 46? Are you as confident about his fitness as you are his goal scoring prowess? The two go hand in hand imo.
Bettsj2 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 So are you willing to accept he will be the league's top goalscorer this season as well? Not many achieve more than 20 in a season. Only a select few. He's got to last the season fitness wise to achieve this and I can't see him doing that. He looked knackered for us after a handful of games. How will he manage up to 46? Are you as confident about his fitness as you are his goal scoring prowess? The two go hand in hand imo. If he missed 10 games he'd still score 20 or more. Again if you want to place a wager pm me and i'd be happy to lay money down.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Sorry Dad. I shouldn't have mentioned the charities. I was merely suggesting a reason as to why he would be reluctant to take a massive pay cut. 50% tax on anything earned over £50,000 a year as well. You'd be a prat to take such a hit to your salary when you have only 5-6 years left in the game. Mother Teresa or not. You also called me a moron for not realising the obvious answer that LCFC are supposed to fund his charities. Like I said, making excuses. But yeh I do feel sorry for him having to pay 50% tax. I'm sure he's sleeping rough. He said he was OK playing in the Championship in May - we all knew he'd have to take a bit of a pay cut so I'm sure he'd have been aware it was a strong possibility. We are not Everton. But now we're hearing all sorts of excuses. If he wants to be paid a certain amount then fine but why go through all of this and still stall? Either take the deal (which is hardly daylight robbery) or just go and play in Turkey if he thinks it's so much better there. And you seem pretty sure we are asking him to half his wages as opposed to a smaller percentage cut... We are wasting time and money at the moment. All I ask is for him to make his mind up.
Number 6 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 So now it's about him and not charities then? No point bringing up charities it just sounds like you're trying to make excuses for him. If he wants 50K a week or whatever then that's his choice but we don't have to pay it. 20K a week is still a huge amount of money. If he's been paid 50K a week for the last 2 years I bet he doesn't know what to do with it all, charities or not. I'm sure his deprived upbringing is a factor for his greed but football should be more important. He's stringing it out as well and if he's not going to sign he's wasted time we could be using to get someone else. Anyway I should think we've offered him a reasonable deal for a Club in our position. He wouldn't be the first footballer holding out for more than he deserves. Or more than he can get elsewhere? Seems sensible to weigh up all options. People quickly forget this is a job at the end of the day. If he missed 10 games he'd still score 20 or more. Again if you want to place a wager pm me and i'd be happy to lay money down. I think he'd get 20+ with us. With West Ham under Allardyce? Will be a much tighter outfit and think he'd struggle to reach 20 there.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Or more than he can get elsewhere? Seems sensible to weigh up all options. People quickly forget this is a job at the end of the day. It's not more than he can get elsewhere. Everton don't want him but he wants the same wages he's getting there. He can weigh up his options but we should be giving him a deadline. If we wait ages and then he doesn't sign, our backup targets may have already been signed up by other Clubs. He obviously isn't that bothered about being here is he. It is a job but it's hardly like any other job. You can't think about it in the same way, in fact you shouldn't.
marbelladave Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 So now it's about him and not charities then? No point bringing up charities it just sounds like you're trying to make excuses for him. If he wants 50K a week or whatever then that's his choice but we don't have to pay it. 20K a week is still a huge amount of money. If he's been paid 50K a week for the last 2 years I bet he doesn't know what to do with it all, charities or not. I'm sure his deprived upbringing is a factor for his greed but football should be more important. He's stringing it out as well and if he's not going to sign he's wasted time we could be using to get someone else. Anyway I should think we've offered him a reasonable deal for a Club in our position. He wouldn't be the first footballer holding out for more than he deserves. Sorry Dad. I shouldn't have mentioned the charities. I was merely suggesting a reason as to why he would be reluctant to take a massive pay cut. 50% tax on anything earned over £50,000 a year as well. You'd be a prat to take such a hit to your salary when you have only 5-6 years left in the game. Mother Teresa or not. Sorry guys, most of these comments are irrelevant. The management decides what a player is worth to us at this point in time. All kind of things are taken into account and an offer is made, a bit of 'wriggle room' is built in to allow for negotiations and if a deal is done then fair enough, if not you walk away. If you are asking a player to accept 50% less than his last contract, that is because that is what he is worth to the club. All this 'we have money, pay him what he wants' is just plain bullshit, no club at our level would opperate like that. West Ham have the parachute payments so may be prepared to pay more, that does not make him a better player, just a more expensive one who becomes less cost effective as his 'price' rises. Same applies to the player, if he believes he can get more elsewhere that's up to him. Many players only see the money, footballing considerations rarely get a look in, look how the careers of players like Bridge and Parker were ruined by Chelsea paying over the odds for them not to play. Do they care? Most probably not!
john doe Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 would love yak here but has to be a reason that no midd table prem teams have not bid yet .he even got booed by nigeria in last game they think he is lazy also beckford took his place at everton is his reputation bigger than his talent
bluearmyfox23 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Personally I think West ham will deffo not be signing him for 1 I'm sure Carlton cole isn't way off the same wages as the yak and they are looking to get rid of him and 2 if I remember correctly the yak said he mainly wanted to leave everton was beacuase of first team football but he also said that he hated the way everton played and is looking forward to playing the passing game so surely he isn't goin to want to play route 1 at west ham is he ?
Legend_in_blue Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 Personally I think West ham will deffo not be signing him for 1 I'm sure Carlton cole isn't way off the same wages as the yak and they are looking to get rid of him and 2 if I remember correctly the yak said he mainly wanted to leave everton was beacuase of first team football but he also said that he hated the way everton played and is looking forward to playing the passing game so surely he isn't goin to want to play route 1 at west ham is he ? He might consider this favourable as it probably will suit his "I'll stand here, not move, can't be bothered to run for that mentality" more than a passing game would.
bluearmyfox23 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 He might consider this favourable as it probably will suit his "I'll stand here, not move, can't be bothered to run for that mentality" more than a passing game would. But he isn't good in the air surely he would know that ?
Liamlcfc1 Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Everton-transfer-news-Leicester-set-abandon-Yakubu-chase-sign-strikers-Nicky-Maynard-David-Nugent-article747901.html Sven-Goran Eriksson has made a £2million bid to nab Bristol City striker Nicky Maynard.With Everton’s Yakubu stalling over a permanent move to the Foxes, Eriksson has moved swiftly for Maynard, 24. The Bristolians want £5m for their prizedpossession, who has been out for nine months with a serious knee injury. Leicester’s Thai owners are ready to fork out £2m, plus a package linked to goals that could push the deal closer to £4m. Eriksson is also snapping up one-cap England star David Nugent on a free after he left Portsmouth, four years after they paid £6m for him. Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Everton-transfer-news-Leicester-set-abandon-Yakubu-chase-sign-strikers-Nicky-Maynard-David-Nugent-article747901.html#ixzz1PO7pjTGZ Sign up for MirrorFootball's Morning Spy newsletter Register here
ajthefox Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Everton-transfer-news-Leicester-set-abandon-Yakubu-chase-sign-strikers-Nicky-Maynard-David-Nugent-article747901.html Merc seemed to think the same thing, or at least we were preparing to bid for Maynard if the Yak continued to stall. £2m would be a steal and I can't imagine we'll get him for that even with add-ons, but if it is indeed true it's good to see we're going in low and trying to do it as cheaply as possible.
Kitchandro Posted 15 June 2011 Posted 15 June 2011 That bid will be turned down. I hope we are prepared to up it.
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