wakeyfox01 Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 He's playing tonight, I doubt Sky Sports won't try to ask him again. I will be watching of course. Long is playing too. A tear in my eye and a bitter tinge in my gut. I don't care what the doubters say, he would do a job for us had he come. St Ledger's playing I think as well
sdb Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Not a fan personally. £5 mill would be a rip off for a 31 year old. He's an overrated journeyman who's well past his best and hasn't had a good season for 3 or 4 years. Sure he'd 'do a job' in this division, but we'd want a bit more than that, especially for £5million.
SilverFox Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Overrated journeyman? His league and international record say anything but overrated. He has also had well over 100 appearances at Spurs where he is still on the books. But if you say so [/total confusion].
dannythefox Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Not a fan personally. £5 mill would be a rip off for a 31 year old. He's an overrated journeyman who's well past his best and hasn't had a good season for 3 or 4 years. Sure he'd 'do a job' in this division, but we'd want a bit more than that, especially for £5million. Agree he would do a good job but would be here for the money I don't feel like his heart would be in it.
davelcfc100 Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 When he went to west ham last year I thought he would be great and before this time I was a big fan of him, sadly for me though my partner is a west ham fan and having watched pretty much every game last season I rapidly realised he his nowhere near the player he once was, I can remember saying he would bag a shed load of goals and to put it blunt he was absaloute toss, I'm sure lots of people will disagree but how many of you watched him last year?
sdb Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Overrated journeyman? His league and international record say anything but overrated. He has also had well over 100 appearances at Spurs where he is still on the books. But if you say so [/total confusion]. Let me ask, are you talking about 2011 Robbie Keane, or 2005 Robbie Keane? Because I suggest there in lies why you don;t agree. Overrated? Yes. I doubt he's scored more than a dozen goals in the last 3/4 years. Journeyman? Yes. Wolves, Cov, Inter, Leeds, Spurs (twice), West Ham, Liverpool. That's 7 moves, plus he played for Leeds again on loan. That not enough? Edit: and Celtic, where in fairness he scored goals, but also, in fairness, the opposition is pony...at best.
CupidStunt Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Agree he would do a good job but would be here for the money I don't feel like his heart would be in it. A player like Robbie Keane, imo, just wants to play regular football, and anyway, if he comes and knocks 20+ goals in, I dont think anyone of us would be disappointed at the end of the season if he said his heart aint in it i dont believe Robbie Keane's intentions would be to take the money, you just have to see the way he plays, to knock that argument out the water. And to say he is an overrated journeyman?, ffs There is nothing wrong with what he is saying about not wanting to drop down a division, he rightly so, thinks he can do a job for a team in the premiership next season. For 5 Million + wages ,at 31, is a little too much though, 3 Mill sounds more realistic Here's his stats In the last 3 seasons, he average is about 2.2 games per goal, albeit a load scored at Celtic granted Journey man maybe, but overated? not sure on that one
sphericalfox Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Let me ask, are you talking about 2011 Robbie Keane, or 2005 Robbie Keane? Because I suggest there in lies why you don;t agree. Overrated? Yes. I doubt he's scored more than a dozen goals in the last 3/4 years. Journeyman? Yes. Wolves, Cov, Inter, Leeds, Spurs (twice), West Ham, Liverpool. That's 7 moves, plus he played for Leeds again on loan. That not enough? Edit: and Celtic, where in fairness he scored goals, but also, in fairness, the opposition is pony...at best. He played for a disinterested West Ham team with little or know ideas. When he has a good striking partner and plays in the right formation he's still lethal. He would do fine at CCC level. Playing well in the SPL proves this to an extent.
CupidStunt Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 He played for a disinterested West Ham team with little or know ideas. When he has a good striking partner and plays in the right formation he's still lethal. He would do fine at CCC level. Playing well in the SPL proves this to an extent. THIS And anyone who thinks the signing of Keane would be a bad move are off their rocker
bluearmyfox23 Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Let me ask, are you talking about 2011 Robbie Keane, or 2005 Robbie Keane? Because I suggest there in lies why you don;t agree. Overrated? Yes. I doubt he's scored more than a dozen goals in the last 3/4 years. Journeyman? Yes. Wolves, Cov, Inter, Leeds, Spurs (twice), West Ham, Liverpool. That's 7 moves, plus he played for Leeds again on loan. That not enough? Edit: and Celtic, where in fairness he scored goals, but also, in fairness, the opposition is pony...at best. schmeichael has played for nine clubs and he is only 25 no 1 complained about him bein a journeyman
SilverFox Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 I think the stats above say it all. I would add that his goal per game ratio in international football is one goal in every two games. Totally overrated he should be scoring in every game. Christ!
sdb Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 schmeichael has played for nine clubs and he is only 25 no 1 complained about him bein a journeyman Bit different, considering 6 were loans as a youngster making his name. As for 'playing for a disinterested West Ham' - that didn't stop Scott Parker winning Player of the Year. As for 'can cut it in Championship 'cause he can cut it in Scotland'...Marc De Vries, Kris Boyd, and a million other names. Plus they were in the 'peak' of their careers, Keane is on the decline. 3 years ago i'd have loved him here, a year ago sure, now, for £5 mill, at 31 years old, having made no impact in the Prem for a good few years? Nah.
Guest Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 Watched ROI tonight because SSL was playing. Keane looked nothing special. SSL played well. Long was poor
acooling08 Posted 10 August 2011 Posted 10 August 2011 I would love Keane here, could still cut it in the Prem imo let alone the Championship.
Ali_Mauchlens_Tash Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Bit different, considering 6 were loans as a youngster making his name. As for 'playing for a disinterested West Ham' - that didn't stop Scott Parker winning Player of the Year. As for 'can cut it in Championship 'cause he can cut it in Scotland'...Marc De Vries, Kris Boyd, and a million other names. Plus they were in the 'peak' of their careers, Keane is on the decline. 3 years ago i'd have loved him here, a year ago sure, now, for £5 mill, at 31 years old, having made no impact in the Prem for a good few years? Nah. A years loan might be a good move, or even a short term contract on highish wages for a low fee (something I doubt would interest him) but 5mil for a 31 year old who hasnt done anything in years is ridiculous and probably why the offers don't appear to be rushing in.
sphericalfox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Bit different, considering 6 were loans as a youngster making his name. As for 'playing for a disinterested West Ham' - that didn't stop Scott Parker winning Player of the Year. As for 'can cut it in Championship 'cause he can cut it in Scotland'...Marc De Vries, Kris Boyd, and a million other names. Plus they were in the 'peak' of their careers, Keane is on the decline. 3 years ago i'd have loved him here, a year ago sure, now, for £5 mill, at 31 years old, having made no impact in the Prem for a good few years? Nah. There were two players who actually played for West Ham last year, Parker and Ba, the rest couldn't be arsed. Hence their little trip to relegation town. How is that even a reflection on Keane's performances? They were effectively relegated by January with the relegation carrions circling above them. Keane joined an ineffective and disheartened team with no inspiration other than one man who stood out as a true professional. Why are you comparing Marc De Vries to Keane, they are not even comparable? Yes Keane is older than the players we've been mooted to be interested in. If those players cease to be on our list as they go elsewhere, I can see Sven going the route of either loaning a hungry Prem reserve and bringing a Keane-esque player who can cut the mustard in the CCC. £5mil is a lot of money, should that indeed be the real cost of bringing him to the club. His wages would be high, but the price of investment in a very crucial area of our team needs to be done with intelligence and guile. Sven is being patient and will address the issue and find the right person(s) for the job. Keane has always done well with a fall guy striking partner. Have a read up of his partners in the past when he has done well, and you'll see that given the right support he's not only an intelligent player, with a knack of finding space for himself, he can also find the right pass for others too. He may not have the pace he did have, but he's far better than what we currently have, for both experience and goal scoring records. If Sven can find the right deal then I wouldn't say no, as I believe he could easily destroy defences in the CCC, and would certainly look more mobile than the Yak (who sadly we won't be signing). If we don't sign him, then I hope we are looking for his calibre.
Happy Fox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Robbie Keane would be an excellent addition, I think we are still interested in him, just that spurs are playing hardball and want a big fee for him and the other players they are currently trying to offload. Just to remind people we have put in an offer for him http://spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76857 BRFC are one of my customers and deal with people quite high up in the IT dept there Told me we've offered £5m plus Hutton & Keane for Samba No idea if they're entertaining the thought or if it's been rejected On a seperate note was told a rumour of Leicester putting an offer in for Keane this morning dont know if it meets valuation, if it's a loan deal or if he's even interested in going either way.
mancunianfox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 34 players have scored 50 or more goals for the country. Robbie Keane is one of those players and has an international record of 51 goals from 108 appearances. which is a ratio of 0.47. His peers on that list are Thierry Henry 51/122/0.41, Hakan Suker 51/112/0.46, Samuel Eto'o 50/101/0.49 and Jon Dahl Thomasson 51/99/0.52. I don't know about you, but I think thats pretty good company to be in.
Happy Fox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Robbie Keane was in a West Ham team devoid of confidence I am pretty sure at this level and even in the prem he would score sufficient number of goals with our service, bring him in
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 34 players have scored 50 or more goals for the country. Robbie Keane is one of those players and has an international record of 51 goals from 108 appearances. which is a ratio of 0.47. His peers on that list are Thierry Henry 51/122/0.41, Hakan Suker 51/112/0.46, Samuel Eto'o 50/101/0.49 and Jon Dahl Thomasson 51/99/0.52. I don't know about you, but I think thats pretty good company to be in. Should have left JDT off that list!
@mrtonycox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 I'll take Keane over Howard and Vassell anyday.. Howard and Vassell are shite, Douglas Bader could bang in more than them.
mancunianfox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Should have left JDT off that list! Why? Are you trying to imply that he wasn't good enough to play in this division? He scored goals consistantly at most of the clubs he has been at including AC Milan.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Why? Are you trying to imply that he wasn't good enough to play in this division? He scored goals consistantly at most of the clubs he has been at including AC Milan. No, just think most people's memories of him will be of his ill fated Newcastle period when he was quite frankly poor and possibly injured/unfit. The other names are more revered as well.
MC Prussian Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Keane is 31, so what? Howard is 34, Oakley 33! The guy has at least another two to three years in him. Age didn't prevent Teddy Sheringham dishing out them goals left and right up until he was 40. Keane is one of the most prolific strikers the Premier League has seen in the past 10 years and you think he wouldn't cut it on Championship level? And if it's a loan move, even better. That can only be a win-win situation. He'd come with high wages probably, but we wouldn't have to pay another couple of millions for a contract.
Happy Fox Posted 11 August 2011 Posted 11 August 2011 Keane knows where the back of the net is, has consistenly scored goals at the highest level, wouldn't be surprised if he was the number one target, and that Andrew Neville and the owners are working tirelessly to bring this man in
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