Maynard

[Number 6]

I was , he missed a pen ! and almost missed his second . not as good as people are making out oh yeh did you see his miss on saturday it was abysmal.

Almost missed = scored.

[Bettsy82]

What? I wasn't replying to you, If I was I would have quoted you.

Then again you are wrong, he is the best option there is, much better option than the Yak.

If you're talking about missed chances and I can remember

quite a number of sitters the Yak missed last season.

11 goals in 20 games and £3m cheaper. Are you drunk ?

[Dan]

Fvck off life.

You know what I'm sick of this, this is literally the biggest saga in the clubs history, surely.

[Bettsy82]

Almost missed = scored.

Fair enough. Just don't think we should waste £6m on someone who's only played in the championship, has had a cruciate knee ligament injury and isn't as clinical as the yak and twice the price.

[Number 6]

Fair enough. Just don't think we should waste £6m on someone who's only played in the championship, has had a cruciate knee ligament injury and isn't as clinical as the yak and twice the price.

You say not as clinical but in the 17 games since his injury lay off he has scored 9 goals. Considering his age and therefore potential I think it.s worth splashing out.

Having said that I wouldn't mind the Yak either.

[Happy Fox]

The money being quoted is farcical he is not worth that amount imo .I would rather go for someone else and we could bring in at least 2 strikers for that amount of money, come on Sven Maynard isn't the only striker available

[bluearmyfox23]

Fair enough. Just don't think we should waste £6m on someone who's only played in the championship, has had a cruciate knee ligament injury and isn't as clinical as the yak and twice the price.

Chamberlain and wickham are not worth double digits but they both are british ( which is vital now ) and both have time to improve even more this is why maynard is valued at tht price if we got yak now instead of maynard and looked back in 3 years u would rather have maynard any day !!

[Lesta Legend]

Itkagent1962 ...

Hold fire over Maynard people. Not quite yet.

more than likely in response to the pile of turd rumour that a fee had been agreed... On a Sunday.. Patience.

I'd love to have both, preferably Maynard. IMO.

[Lesta Legend]

The money being quoted is farcical he is not worth that amount imo .I would rather go for someone else and we could bring in at least 2 strikers for that amount of money, come on Sven Maynard isn't the only striker available

Go on then.... Who?

[Happy Fox]

Go on then.... Who?

Some suggestions: Garry Hooper, Jay Rodriquez, Bellamy on loan, Charlie Austin

[CKB]

Roll on transfer deadline day! this one will somewhat be put to bed (till Jan if he doesn't sign)

[Bettsy82]

Chamberlain and wickham are not worth double digits but they both are british ( which is vital now ) and both have time to improve even more this is why maynard is valued at tht price if we got yak now instead of maynard and looked back in 3 years u would rather have maynard any day !!

His knee won't last another 3 years it will go again eventually.

[Jaspa]

Some suggestions: Garry Hooper, Jay Rodriquez, Bellamy on loan, Charlie Austin

Who's left at Man C

And

Anyone who you seen score on recent highlights

Get Nicky soon as Sven

[Happy Fox]

Who's left at Man C

And

Anyone who you seen score on recent highlights

Get Nicky soon as Sven

I want Nicky Maynard but I just feel that we could get in two other strikers for the amount of money quoted for him, perhaps it would be a gamble to go the foreign route, but their are some decent championship strikers who would be cheaper than Maynard, but I trust in Sven to make the right decision

[Sniffer-Clarke]

I want Nicky Maynard but I just feel that we could get in two other strikers for the amount of money quoted for him, perhaps it would be a gamble to go the foreign route, but their are some decent championship strikers who would be cheaper than Maynard, but I trust in Sven to make the right decision

Like who?

[Callabinho]

So people would be happy if we missed out on Maynard then? And were left with Vaz and Nugent?

[Lesta Legend]

Some suggestions: Garry Hooper, Jay Rodriquez, Bellamy on loan, Charlie Austin

Gary Hooper - you having a laugh

Bellamy- only wants to go Cardiff

Rodriquez (sic) - hardly a 20 goal striker we should be looking at and besides Burnley would hardly let him go cheap, ala Bristol....

Austin - not good enough

very limited in choice at the minute for a natural goal scorer, frustrating but we are being ripped off because of this fact - and the fact other clubs know we have cash....

[Happy Fox]

Like who?

Jay Rodriguez, Lukas Jutkiewicz

[SilverFox]

Worth no more than 3 Million!!! have a word, suppose you think shane long isn`t worth 6 million either do you! Maynard is worth 4-5million and how would he be a waist of money if he scores the goal`s that get us promoted!

Shane long isn't worth 6 million.

Maynard isn't worth 4 million.

There is a lot of stupid money flying around for mediocre players.

For that matter can anyone who kicks a ****ing ball around for a living really be worth the money (and wages) we are talking about. There are people out there who save lives for a pittance and there are people who are starving. Football at the end of the day is a game and most of the time I find it pretty vile that this kind of money is being spent on morons.

This is boring. Stop wasting your lives on threads about middle of the road footballers. That is all they are after all. They aren't heart surgeons or philanthropists. ****ing footballers. End of.

[Happy Fox]

Gary Hooper - you having a laugh

Bellamy- only wants to go Cardiff

Rodriquez (sic) - hardly a 20 goal striker we should be looking at and besides Burnley would hardly let him go cheap, ala Bristol....

Austin - not good enough

very limited in choice at the minute for a natural goal scorer, frustrating but we are being ripped off because of this fact - and the fact other clubs know we have cash....

Fair enough, we get Maynard and the Yak on loan

[Kitchandro]

Some suggestions: Garry Hooper, Jay Rodriquez, Bellamy on loan, Charlie Austin

Hooper won't come, Rodriguez would be going for similar money and isn't as good, Bellamy's a fair shout but I couldn't see it happening, Austin is very average just on form.

[Jobyfox]

I did want Maynard, but I'm getting to the point now where I think that we should just tell Bristol City to Fook Off.

Despite them beating us I do not expect them to be anywhere near the play offs this season and they have blown their own chances of getting 5 or £6m to invest in their team. It seems incredibly short sighted when the player could potentially leave for nothing within 12 months.

I'm not a fully paid up member of the Yak fan club, but he's the one that should come back. as he knows the way we play and is more suited to the 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 that :sge: insists on playing. He can hold the ball up and bring players into play. I don't care if he's a lazy c**t as I feel he'll make the team as a whole play better with better balance.

If Maynard suddenly signed I would not be disappointed, but it's time to tell Bristol that this is the money take it or leave it and not be distracted from more attainable targets.

[Ashley]

Gary Hooper - you having a laugh

Bellamy- only wants to go Cardiff

Rodriquez (sic) - hardly a 20 goal striker we should be looking at and besides Burnley would hardly let him go cheap, ala Bristol....

Austin - not good enough

very limited in choice at the minute for a natural goal scorer, frustrating but we are being ripped off because of this fact - and the fact other clubs know we have cash....

Charlie Austin, not good enough? What do you base this on? Scored two goals at the weekend and was injured from when they signed him last season. Give the lad a break, I bet your the kind of person who would want Svens head should we sign someone from the lower divisions?

[Kitchandro]

11 goals in 20 games and £3m cheaper. Are you drunk ?

I direct you to my comments in the Yakubu thread:

Last Wednesday Maynard didn't do anything special, he did a very simple thing all game which Yakubu never does. He moved off the ball. He moved away from defenders, made runs in behind, made himself available, making it easier for his teammates to pick him out and get out their own half (though they often failed to find him with some awful passes in the seond half).

Look at Maynard's 3 goals already this season (in a poor team). Yakubu would never have scored those 3. He wouldn' t have the quick turn of pace and energy to score against Cardiff, he rarely shoots from outside the box as for Maynard's first against ours, and his 2nd against us, well he wouldn't have closed St Ledger down like that, and probably wouldn't have made it to the goal in any case. Maynard made those 3 goals for himself.

That's why Maynard is worth £6m+, and Yakubu is worth £2m, or is available on loan.

I would be very disappointed if we ended up with Yakubu instead.

He wouldn't have the supply he had last season. He might actually have to do some thing's for himself, and he rarely likes doing that.

So he scores a goal in minute 1 of the game, stands around for the next 89 and we effectively play with 10 and lose 2-1. Say this happens in about half our games.

Or say he gets the winner in 23 games. But in the other 23, he stands around for the whole match and we effectively play with 10 for those games, and we lose those 23.

In neither scenario do we get promoted.

Of course reality isn't as straightforward as that but I'm trying to simplify it to make people understand that scoring 1 in 2 doesn't guarantee you wins or promotion, it's not good enough to say 'I don't care if he does nothing but score', because goals are not the goal, they are a means to an end. He is not paid just to put the ball in the back of the net, he is paid to help his team win football matches.

I'm not saying I definitely wouldn't want him, I'd prefer a couple of others we've been linked to, but he's not awful obviously. I just think this argument of 'he's scored 11 in 20 so he'd probably get 1 in 2 this season and we'd get promotion' doesn't really tell the whole story and is too simplified.

May I add that it's not like Nugent and Vassell have been missing a load of sitters so far; with the lack of service, there's no guarantee, in fact it's less likely that Yakubu would end up with a ratio of 1 in 2. We are not really missing a striker to put the ball in the back of the net, we are missing a striker with movement, pace, and the ability to assist the team in making chances for himself and others.

Again, not saying Yakubu is a terrible option, just that goal ratios over half a season and from years ago aren't the be all and end all to the argument.

Now if you can think of an argument that isn't just 'he scored 11 in 20' then I'd like to hear it.

[Kitchandro]

I did want Maynard, but I'm getting to the point now where I think that we should just tell Bristol City to Fook Off.

Despite them beating us I do not expect them to be anywhere near the play offs this season and they have blown their own chances of getting 5 or £6m to invest in their team. It seems incredibly short sighted when the player could potentially leave for nothing within 12 months.

I'm not a fully paid up member of the Yak fan club, but he's the one that should come back. as he knows the way we play and is more suited to the 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 that :sge: insists on playing. He can hold the ball up and bring players into play. I don't care if he's a lazy c**t as I feel he'll make the team as a whole play better with better balance.

If Maynard suddenly signed I would not be disappointed, but it's time to tell Bristol that this is the money take it or leave it and not be distracted from more attainable targets.