Alf Bentley Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 I think Kapser was getting ready to do that, but suddenly their player was in the way, and in a position Kasper wasn't expecting because he wasn't looking to win the ball. The canary runs in looks at Kasper and stands between him and where the ball is going to drop, Kasper is watching the ball and preparing to jump over him and win the ball, but he is in the wrong place, that is why it looked like a foul. There was an incident later on when Morgan I think it was was running into the box and the ball was coming through to the keeper and he could have just run between keeper and ball and got clattered, but he didn't, probably because he is an honest player. If they start giving them as pens you will see more and players just getting between keeper and a high ball making no effort to win the ball and blocking off the keeper. Spot on! Neither player had possession of the ball. Kasper was looking up in the air and jumping to get it. The Norwich player made no serious effort to jump for the ball; he just "made a back" and blocked Kasper getting to a loose ball. Should've been a free-kick to us for obstruction. At first, I was less sure, thinking about situations at the corner flag where the player in possession makes no effort to play the ball, just uses up time...the difference is that he's in possession of the ball; the Norwich player wasn't. I agree that the ref would have struggled to give Morgan's back-heel, though, unless a lino or 5th official was in line and saw it over the line. Didn't matter, fortunately!
Lambert09 Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Tbf our first goal shouldnt of counted. The ball was moving when the corner was taken...evens out
Filbert_Ross Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 what a day yesterday was. loved it. £3 0n 2-1 also.
deep blue Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Spot on! Neither player had possession of the ball. Kasper was looking up in the air and jumping to get it. The Norwich player made no serious effort to jump for the ball; he just "made a back" and blocked Kasper getting to a loose ball. Should've been a free-kick to us for obstruction. At first, I was less sure, thinking about situations at the corner flag where the player in possession makes no effort to play the ball, just uses up time...the difference is that he's in possession of the ball; the Norwich player wasn't. I agree that the ref would have struggled to give Morgan's back-heel, though, unless a lino or 5th official was in line and saw it over the line. Didn't matter, fortunately! Agreed. The Norwich player backs into Kasper, feels contact, and collapses. No attempt to play the ball at all. Another contributer points out that the ball was moving when the corner was taken for our first goal. That's true, but Marshall made several attempts to still it, and it was still when he stepped back and started to move forward, but it then moved before he kicked it., How can you legislate for that? That's being really picky. Considering it was moving when he hit it, it turned out as a very creditable cross!
shen Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Agreed. The Norwich player backs into Kasper, feels contact, and collapses. No attempt to play the ball at all. What was the Norwich player supposed to do? Jump 15 feet up in the air and head the ball?? Kasper came out, barged into their player with arms/elbows first not attempting to play the ball either. I'm all for supporting Kasper, but surely if you cannot see that it was a misjudgement on his part then you really have those blue-tinted specs solidly planted on your nose.
Salieri Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Having seen the highlights again, I didn't realise just how brilliant Schmeichel's penalty save was.
deep blue Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 What was the Norwich player supposed to do? Jump 15 feet up in the air and head the ball?? Kasper came out, barged into their player with arms/elbows first not attempting to play the ball either. I'm all for supporting Kasper, but surely if you cannot see that it was a misjudgement on his part then you really have those blue-tinted specs solidly planted on your nose. So you agree that the Norwich player was nowhere near the ball, and made no attempt to play it, but he blocked Kasper, who did want to play it. That's obstruction, a foul.
shen Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 So you agree that the Norwich player was nowhere near the ball, and made no attempt to play it, but he blocked Kasper, who did want to play it. That's obstruction, a foul. Well of course no-one was near the ball it was high up in the air! And how was he supposed to have played the ball when Kasper barged him down from behind before he had the chance to? Kasper was himself nowhere near when he knocked him on the back of the head. It's a pretty clear foul even if it wasn't the biggest ever committed.
Nickfosse Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Well of course no-one was near the ball it was high up in the air! And how was he supposed to have played the ball when Kasper barged him down from behind before he had the chance to? Kasper was himself nowhere near when he knocked him on the back of the head. It's a pretty clear foul even if it wasn't the biggest ever committed. But he had only one thing on his mind, and that was to obstruct the keeper. He never once looked at the ball, only the goalie. That was the first offence and should have been a foul to us. Whatever happened after is irrelevent
Webbo Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 The penalty was soft but it was definitely giveable.
Nickfosse Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Would never have been given the other end. I used to play in goal and if anyone had played me like that rather than the ball they would have got more than Kasper gave him. What's more the ref would have given the wounded party a knowing smile and told him to get on with it..
allotment-fox Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Best away performance in the cup for years will remember it for a long time many thanks to the lads for their efforts. The city's tack tics with SSL & Morgan's skills left the Canaries front men running around the pitch like headless Bernard Matthews turkeys for most of the match two good goals and not a pen for me but who cares now The corners taken by Ben Marshall were like bombs going over one after the other hitting their mark, time and time again nice work lads. up the city
stockyfox Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Well of course no-one was near the ball it was high up in the air! And how was he supposed to have played the ball when Kasper barged him down from behind before he had the chance to? Kasper was himself nowhere near when he knocked him on the back of the head. It's a pretty clear foul even if it wasn't the biggest ever committed. Let me get this right..... A keeper, within his own area, is not allowed to raise his hands in the air to catch the ball if an opponent is challenging him to meet that cross but it's ok for the opponent to barge into the keeper even if he's not playing the ball.? And it's also perfectly ok to elbow Sean St L in the face because referees don't seem to regard that as a foul.
shen Posted 19 February 2012 Posted 19 February 2012 Let me get this right..... A keeper, within his own area, is not allowed to raise his hands in the air to catch the ball if an opponent is challenging him to meet that cross but it's ok for the opponent to barge into the keeper even if he's not playing the ball.? And it's also perfectly ok to elbow Sean St L in the face because referees don't seem to regard that as a foul. Of course it isn't perfectly ok, don't be silly! And it's not like their player barged into Schmeichel. Kasper handled their player on the head when the ball was nowhere near. Just because it's in the area doesn't give the goalie a freebie. I'm astonished at the lack of objectivety here...
norfolkfox222 Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 That was the best day ive had for a long long time!! Been at work 3 hours and all the Norwich fans i know to be fair to them have congratulated us and many have even said we were the best away fans they have seen there all season! Every 1 of us in that away end were fantastic!! Proud to be a blue again!
Nickfosse Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Of course it isn't perfectly ok, don't be silly! And it's not like their player barged into Schmeichel. Kasper handled their player on the head when the ball was nowhere near. Just because it's in the area doesn't give the goalie a freebie. I'm astonished at the lack of objectivety here... Just watched it several times over and it is clear to me that Kasper is impeded when he comes to gather. Foul. Free kick to Leicester. Just to prove my objectivity, I have watched the Morgan back heel several times too and I do not think the whole of the ball is over the whole of the line. Correct decision.
Guest ttfn Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 It's a very clear penalty. What a save from Kasper though - one of the best I've seen from the spot because it was a pretty good penalty from Hoolahan
ajthefox Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 The penalty was soft but it was definitely giveable. I'd say this about sums up what I think about it, I think most of us would definitely be claiming it if the shoe was on the other foot. Initially thought Morgans attempt was a goal but I think it's a pretty hard one to call, and for anyone to say the whole ball was over the line would've been a big call that they'd have to be 100% on. The right decision in my opinion. Don't say we always criticise the refs...
Leicfox Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Lets settle the penalty argument, even though it doesn't really matter as we won. The player was definitely looking for the decision there's no doubt about that, but Kasper did knock the back off his head with his forearm as it shows below. Why he just didn't try and jump with his arms straight above his head which would of probably then resulted in him getting the decision of obstruction only he knows.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I think it was as pen, but what annoys me is that we all know we wouldnt have got that at the other end.
shen Posted 21 February 2012 Posted 21 February 2012 Lets settle the penalty argument, even though it doesn't really matter as we won. It doesn't matter in the context of that game, but it shows once again that Kasper has a weakness with his decision-making in the area. For blindingly obvious reasons, I'm keeping a very watchful eye on him, because I'm excited about his development with us. While his rushes of blood can result in vital saves, it also costs us on occasion. I'm hoping he learns to channel his focus as I believe it to be the stumbling block for him to get into the national side. Unfortunately, with the limited exposure over here and the subdued interest from Olsen in second divisions, that mistake at Norwich will not have impressed. Then again, he pulled off a great save from the resulting peno and made a sharp save at the end...
Jimmy Posted 21 February 2012 Posted 21 February 2012 Theres only one Ian Stringer what was that all about?
HEGGSY Posted 21 February 2012 Posted 21 February 2012 what was that all about? Stringer came over to the Leicester fans after the game at Norwich, prompting us to start singing "There's only one Ian Stringer" Unfortunately the stewards asked him to leave the pitch
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